Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[edindetroit]

[Cody_Russell]

Stafford is a better draft pick than Aaron Curry, no doubt.

[dsred]

Secret mission to Mars

dwt in pre-flight photo op.

[CGVT]

And he graduated to this

[froot loops]

But when he looks into the mirror he sees this

[Topweasel]

Stafford is a better draft pick than Aaron Curry, no doubt.

My good would that have been a horrible option. Looking back at it that was a pretty thin first round. It's hard to say you found a gem when talking about the #1 pick in the draft, but really only Clay Matthews out of any of the first rounders is better. Couple of others that you could consider close and some late bloomers (success on second team). The second round had a couple stars. But really the 09 draft class as a whole was very very weak and we got one of the better players in Stafford.

[Topweasel]

Is dwt on an extended camping trip in the Alps?

It's crazy to think as fans that they could spend all the offseason non-stop trashing Stafford as Lions fan and pull an anti-gonz and leave when they aren't doing well. I wonder if they (Amp and DWT) are logged on as different users that are on the Stafford bandwagon. I just can't see how you waste that much time during to boring season and just check out when the season starts.

[bimmer84]

But when he looks into the mirror he sees this

No, that's Frank!

[edindetroit]

LLOL

[millenwasmyfavorite]

I think Stafford should be in the MVP discussion.
Media is all in on Brady for MVP.. and he is definitely playing well. The Patriots are 3-1 without Brady however.

Stafford is by far the best player on this team and hides a lot of the deficiencies.... like a young o-line, bad defense, and questionable coaches.
If it wasn't for Stafford's heroics/greatness, the Lions are the Cleveland Browns (I think someone of this forum said that too).

Oh and those dropped passes too.

I think he is, to be honest.

The only Lions coverage on ESPN prior to this year has had something to do with coming up short or Calvin being Calvin.

This is the first year where "pundits" and other talking heads have really gone out of their way to talk anything about the Lions and it is all either preceded by or concluded by talk of Stafford's play.

There was some pretty high praise for him just this morning by R. Clark and Louis Riddick. The host poses, "You guys think Stafford belongs in the discussion for top 10 QB?"

NAY.

Neither of them hesitates to constrain the scope to top 3-5.

Obviously, many grains of salt. A pleasant change, nonetheless.

[The Oracle]

It's crazy to think as fans that they could spend all the offseason non-stop trashing Stafford as Lions fan and pull an anti-gonz and leave when they aren't doing well. I wonder if they (Amp and DWT) are logged on as different users that are on the Stafford bandwagon. I just can't see how you waste that much time during to boring season and just check out when the season starts.

Epitome of Internet trash.

[unknown lions fan]

I don't think I've ever chimed in on this thread. I've never been a Stafford basher. Even through his rough spots, I've always taken a watch-and-see approach with him. I never forgot that one-armed touchdown throw in his rookie year.

Coming into this season, I told friends that I thought the retirement of Calvin would be good for Stafford. Not because the Lions would suddenly be a more balanced attack at receiver, or because Stafford was too dependent on Calvin, none of that.

I thought it would be good for him because it makes this his team, 100%. This is his time to really emerge and make that push toward top-5 QB status...or not.

I think the kid is making his move. I haven't exactly crowned him yet, but this is getting fun to watch.

[froot loops]

I have the same type of feeling, it's really his team now. You can come up with a few reasons why he should be taking charge earlier in his career, but generally that does not going well with the veterans. He is the veteran now. Calvin was a great player, but he was the silent leader type. In previous years you had guys like Raiola serve as a de facto leader, he liked to talk but he wasn't the guy who should be talking.

I do think they finally have an Offensive Coordinator that is providing the correct structure. Maybe it is the goldilocks effect. I thought Linehan was an effective coordinator that perhaps gave a young Stafford too much freedom. He got himself into trouble. Lombardi gave him too much structure that it stifled the offense. Cooter is the in between.

[dpatnod]

It is not unusual for a QB to grow into a better command of the position over some years.

It is not, as some maintain, a question of 'He either came in with "IT" as a rookie, or he will never have "IT" '.

[Marko69]

No, that's Frank!

Yes, that was Franks avatar when I joined. And I was new to computers also so I actually thought that was Frank.