Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[dwt1]

Montana looked a lot like Stafford when he wasn't throwing to Rice. The Rice led Raiders kicked the Montanna led Chefs az. AND went to the Superbowl.

Wrong yet again.

Really?, he did? Do you have any real data to support that wild ass claim? BTW, Joe Montana won two Super Bowls BEFORE Jerry Rice arrived on the scene. Oh BTW - it's an extreme stretch to say Rice lead the raiders, there was this other guy named Tim Brown - you might have heard of him, and another guy named Jerry Porter, they were pretty instrumental in Oakland receiving core success. And they had this running back, Charlie garner - caught 91 passes, I bet he had an impact on the passing game. I won't even talk about the season Gannon had.

[Futureshock]

Really?, he did? Do you have any real data to support that wild ass claim? BTW, Joe Montana won two Super Bowls BEFORE Jerry Rice arrived on the scene. Oh BTW - it's an extreme stretch to say Rice lead the raiders, there was this other guy named Tim Brown - you might have heard of him, and another guy named Jerry Porter, they were pretty instrumental in Oakland receiving core success. And they had this running back, Charlie garner - caught 91 passes, I bet he had an impact on the passing game. I won't even talk about the season Gannon had.

Dude I watch every Raiders game. TB was good but not good enough to get them over the hump. Porter was as nice as Ebron and caught about as many passes. Rice was the man when he showed up until he left. They don't sniff a Superbowl appearance without him.

What did Montanna do in KC? What did Young do in TB? That is the crux of your QB is god argument. Yet they never did anything outside THE CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER TEAM

[dwt1]

Dude I watch every Raiders game. TB was good but not good enough to get them over the hump. Porter was as nice as Ebron and caught about as many passes. Rice was the man when he showed up until he left. They don't sniff a Superbowl appearance without him.

What did Montanna do in KC? What did Young do in TB? That is the crux of your QB is god argument. Yet they never did anything outside THE CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER TEAM

Dude, Montana was well past his Prime, and Steve young struggled in his early years, Both at Tampa and a very good Championship Caliber San Fran team.

Porter caught more TD passes than Rice in 2002, Oh BTW, what did the mighty Rice do in last two years in Oakland? Let me help you, he did about the same as Montana did in his last two in the NFL - nothing to write home about.

Also - Oakland went from the Super Bowl in 2002 to 4-12 in 2003 - what happened? Rich Gannon fell off the cliff, that's what happened. He went from completing 68% of his passes to 55% of his passes. He was prelaced by Mirer who was equally ineffective - the only thing that changed from 2002 and 2003 was the quality of QB play......huuummmm.

BTW - you completely ignored the FACT Montana won TWO Super Bowls pre Rice. You still want to stand by your claim that Rice made Montana?

Oh and dude - Jerry Rice caught five passes in 6 games with Oakland in his last year - you still want to make that claim Rice was the man until he left?

[dpatnod]

Cool story.

[CGVT]

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[Sharkbait]

Wow, time to give it a rest.

[CGVT]

It's starting to bleed over again, too

[dwt1]

Wow, time to give it a rest.

Can't handle a true football discussion? Seriously, is your hate that profound?

[dpatnod]

We just want to see the 'Plan' you have crayoned on your napkin.

[dpatnod]

Look, we know you're frustrated with MS. We all have been wanting him to clean up some things and get this team deep in the playoffs. But none of what we want happens in a vacuum. How?

Taking your frustration out on the good people in this forum (which can't do anything to change it) is very unfair. So, you will continue to poison each and every thread with this.

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[Sharkbait]

Can't handle a true football discussion? Seriously, is your hate that profound?

A true football discussion? Surely you jest.

[Futureshock]

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Ignore list dude. Save yourself buddy.

[Malto Marko]

Mike O'Hara @MikeOHaraNFL [ame="https://twitter.com/MikeOHaraNFL/status/735523959966420996"]10m10 minutes ago[/ame] In Gil Brandt's 8 components of building the perfect QB, one is "the arm of Matthew Stafford." Read all 8:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000664438/article/the-perfect-qb-drew-brees-touch-cam-newtons-athleticism-

[edindetroit]

Mike O'Hara @MikeOHaraNFL 10m10 minutes ago In Gil Brandt's 8 components of building the perfect QB, one is "the arm of Matthew Stafford." Read all 8:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-athleticism-

under Cooter's direction over the last eight games, he put up a touchdown-to-interception ratio of 19:2 and posted a passer rating over 100 five times.

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[chemiclord]

Damn Stafford, still under the Cooter's sway. Hasn't he learned anything from Verlander's slow decline?