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  • Originally posted by TheLondonLion View Post
    Down on pretty much every measure from interceptions to rating and yards per completion since 2013.

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    • Originally posted by chemiclord View Post
      What, dwtwat is pulling bullshit out of his ass to beat his one trick pony?

      Say it ain't so!

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      • Originally posted by Fraquar View Post

        Got no earthly idea whose stat line you are looking at but it isn't Stafford's.

        EVERY aggregate stat Stafford is worse than his career average this year except one - Comp%.
        Now when you factor in Stafford is one of the 5 worst QB's in terms of Air Yards per Comp then that tells you all you need to know. That Comp% is being driven by a shit ton of short easy to make throws that aren't accomplishing a whole helluva lot.

        You don't look at raw stats to compare a player, you look at the aggregates - since since raw stats are dependent on repetition.
        That and you have to extrapolate his 2018 stats from his career stats to get an accurate picture of the comparison you are making.

        He's not having a good year, by any stretch of the imagination.

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        • Has Matthew Stafford regressed this season?

          The numbers sure say so. He's completed 67 percent of his passes, which is just a hair off his career high, but he's also averaged just 7.0 yards per attempt, which would be his fewest since 2012. That ranks 28th in the league, just behind Andy Dalton and Brock Osweiler, and just ahead of Blake Bortles and Sam Darnold.

          He's on pace for just 4,133 yards, which would be his fewest ever in a full season.

          All after a season where he ranked among the six best quarterbacks in the league by all major statistical measures.

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          • Originally posted by TheLondonLion View Post
            Has Matthew Stafford regressed this season?


            .....aside from numbers, he has at least 2 losses on his shoulders for turning the ball over during a critical drive in the game this season.

            Could be 3 but I remember at least 2.

            Your franchise QB is supposed to win those games for you, not make a critical mistake.

            I long for a Lions team that is consistently competitive.

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            • There are no more excuses for Matthew Stafford and the Lions' $135M investment in his magical arm

              sports.yahoo.com

              Detroit Lions fans have a unique indignity facing them as December arrives.

              The co-leader in touchdown receptions in the NFL is Eric Ebron.

              The tight end who was intensely disliked by the diehards in Detroit is a star in IndianapolisAndrew Luck, while in years past there were other options like Golden Tate, Marvin Jones and even Kenny Golladay
              ?????

              It looks like another lost season for Matthew Stafford and the 4-7 Lions. Their next opponent on Sunday: the Rams (Getty Images)

              Matthew StaffordChicago Bears team led by Chase Danielpaid $135 million over five yearsPat Mahomes, Deshaun WatsonJared GoffForbes has Stafford ranked as the 10th highest paid athlete in the world, right in front of Kevin DurantKerryon Johnson broke that streak this season against the New England Patriots, who the Lions beat convincingly. But the Lions have aggressively tried to help Stafford in the backfield. They went and got Reggie Bush. They drafted Ameer Abdullah. They picked up LeGarrette Blount. They have completely rebuilt their offensive line. And Ebron was a big part of that effort. Instead of going for Aaron DonaldGlover Quin and Darius SlayRyan Tannehill, Blake Bortles or Jameis Winston. He has been durable. He has been stellar at times. He has been the face of the franchise the Lions desperately needed after the 2008 winless embarrassment. But after several coordinators and coaches, the Lions are still an also-ran. At some point, hard as it may be, the Lions have to ask themselves if $135 million in salary should buy more than a participation trophy.

              MIC DROP
              Last edited by Panoptes; November 27, 2018, 09:39 AM.
              19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING

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              • It's not hard at all to consider.

                Andrew Luck is a better QB than Matt Stafford. I don't know too many people, even in Detroit, who pretend otherwise. This isn't some goddamn hard-to-swallow pill the Hater's Club is trying to force down our throats. We know. We've known for years.

                But who is that better QB, and how do the Lions attain that fellow? Until someone can actually give us a fucking name, there's no point entertaining a return to the Millen Error, which is what a blind purge of Stafford would effectively accomplish.
                Last edited by chemiclord; November 27, 2018, 11:31 AM.

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                • If the Lions don't think Stafford can be the answer, they should cut him right after the season to star the long process of tanking for 3 or 4 seasons.

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                  • Originally posted by chemiclord View Post
                    It's not hard at all to consider.

                    Andrew Luck is a better QB than Matt Stafford. I don't know too many people, even in Detroit, who even pretend otherwise. This isn't some goddamn hard-to-swallow pill the Hater's Club is trying to force down our throats. We know. We've known for years.

                    But who is that better QB, and how to the Lions attain that fellow? Until someone can actually give us a fucking name, there's no point entertaining a return to the Millen Error, which is what a blind purge of Stafford would effectively accomplish.
                    You don't obtain him if Stafford is still the QB - thats for damn sure. When you are paying a QB nearly 30 million you don't even try to find someone better - that is the problem.
                    What has he done to suggest they shouldn't even be looking?

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                    • Lets pump the brakes on Ebron, fans hated him mostly because he ran his mouth endlessly any of those fans would not say Luke Willson was better than Ebron offensively. The Willson replacement was more of a "maybe they see something nobody else does" type of signing.

                      If you don't think Stafford is it, you have to waive him and start the period tanking for at least a few years.

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                      • Originally posted by TheLondonLion View Post
                        Has Matthew Stafford regressed this season?

                        The numbers sure say so. He's completed 67 percent of his passes, which is just a hair off his career high, but he's also averaged just 7.0 yards per attempt, which would be his fewest since 2012. That ranks 28th in the league, just behind Andy Dalton and Brock Osweiler, and just ahead of Blake Bortles and Sam Darnold.

                        He's on pace for just 4,133 yards, which would be his fewest ever in a full season.

                        All after a season where he ranked among the six best quarterbacks in the league by all major statistical measures.
                        REGRESSION means he's losing his "skill" (pick a term of your choice). What you are seeing this year is typical Medicore Matty, he has an up year, he has a down year - he's all over the fucking place. For example, just take a look at his TD totals from year to year. starting for 2009 to now, he threw 13, 6 (injury year), 41, 20, 29, 22, 32, 24, 29, and 17 through 11 games. His STATS fluctuation up and down year to year is normal for him.
                        Last edited by dwt1; November 27, 2018, 11:32 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                          If the Lions don't think Stafford can be the answer, they should cut him right after the season to star the long process of tanking for 3 or 4 seasons.
                          Why? They make money off him.

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                          • Originally posted by Malto Marko View Post

                            .....aside from numbers, he has at least 2 losses on his shoulders for turning the ball over during a critical drive in the game this season.

                            Could be 3 but I remember at least 2.

                            Your franchise QB is supposed to win those games for you, not make a critical mistake.
                            At least two - how about four. Jets, SF (how many times did he overthrow the receiver that got behind the defense? 4, 5, 6?), and both Chicago games. Possibly if yo consider the Minny game.

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                            • Chem, the problem I have with the fear defense (i.e. what would life be like without Stafford) is KC was in the EXACT same scenario - with a better team. Three 11-5 seasons out of 4 with Alex Smith at the helm and they traded UP into the 1st round significantly to draft a QB. They didn't trade up to draft a backup, they traded up to draft a better QB.

                              Lions choose not to do that, fine, but stop with the whole fear mongering of what would life be after Stafford.
                              Would the Lions really be much worse with Alex Smith at the helm? If not (they wouldn't), then yes, they should go looking for Stafford's replacement.

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                              • Originally posted by Fraquar View Post
                                Chem, the problem I have with the fear defense (i.e. what would life be like without Stafford) is KC was in the EXACT same scenario - with a better team. Three 11-5 seasons out of 4 with Alex Smith at the helm and they traded UP into the 1st round significantly to draft a QB. They didn't trade up to draft a backup, they traded up to draft a better QB.

                                Lions choose not to do that, fine, but stop with the whole fear mongering of what would life be after Stafford.
                                Would the Lions really be much worse with Alex Smith at the helm? If not (they wouldn't), then yes, they should go looking for Stafford's replacement.
                                Been saying that for years. Status quo is a bore.
                                19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING

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