Official Detroit Pistons thread

[chemiclord]

I wouldn't be upset with either Cade, Green, or Mobley, in that order of preference.

[whatever_gong82]

I wouldn't be upset with either Cade, Green, or Mobley, in that order of preference.

Me neither.

But, to paraphrase what the people at Comerica Park said the other day, "I want Cade!"

[chemiclord]

Me neither.

But, to paraphrase what the people at Comerica Park said the other day, "I want Cade!"

Point is, if Detroit were to absolutely FLEECE Houston to swap #1 and #2, I do it with a smile and happily accept Green (who has every bit of potential to be every bit as good as Cade at the end of the day). I might be okay with a #1 and #3 and getting Mobley (or possibly Green), but Cleveland would have to put up a monster offer.

Any other scenario, I draft Cade Cunningham with a smile and don't look back.

[froot loops]

Yeah I would want a fairly unprotected pick from a team that is likely to be a lottery team.

[The King]

It’s very tough to pass on Cade for anything but a godfather offer. The NBA is a star league and Cade is the cleanest two way prospect in years. Do you really want to drop a tier in player for a bunch of picks? I like Green and Mobley as well, but they are not the unicorn playmaker two way player that Cade is.

Cade can fit on any team. He’s just one of those guys. He’s the pick and appears pretty much 100% since the team and Cade “went public” with their relationship at the Tigers game. The Pistons know what they have.

I guess you have to at least listen to other offers. You need to scout the other guys, but it’s going to take a huge package to drop down and not take this guy. He’s everything you need in the modern L, he actually wants to be here, and he’s a culture guy.

Don’t be greedy. We got lucky landing #1. Don’t insult the hoops gods. Just take the best player. That guy is clearly Cade.

Green is the guy I think has superstar ability, but he has a long way to go. Cade does it all. You just build around him with any sort of player. He’s just that good. And he plays defense!

[whatever_gong82]

It’s very tough to pass on Cade for anything but a godfather offer. The NBA is a star league and Cade is the cleanest two way prospect in years. Do you really want to drop a tier in player for a bunch of picks? I like Green and Mobley as well, but they are not the unicorn playmaker two way player that Cade is.

Cade can fit on any team. He’s just one of those guys. He’s the pick and appears pretty much 100% since the team and Cade “went public” with their relationship at the Tigers game. The Pistons know what they have.

I guess you have to at least listen to other offers. You need to scout the other guys, but it’s going to take a huge package to drop down and not take this guy. He’s everything you need in the modern L, he actually wants to be here, and he’s a culture guy.

Don’t be greedy. We got lucky landing #1. Don’t insult the hoops gods. Just take the best player. That guy is clearly Cade.

Green is the guy I think has superstar ability, but he has a long way to go. Cade does it all. You just build around him with any sort of player. He’s just that good. And he plays defense!

Considering that we actually drafted Middleton (and foolishly traded him away!) and passed on the Greek Freak when Joe Dumars was the GM tells you all that you need to know about him: he was a Hall Of Fame basketball player, and he helped get the Detroit Pistons the '04 NBA Title, but the moment he traded Chauncey Billups to Denver for Allen Iverson, that was the beginning of the end for Mr. Dumars' run of excellence in Detroit.

And whiffing on the #2 overall pick in the '03 NBA Draft with Darko Miličić certainly didn't help at all.

[jaadam4]

Joey D was amazing. He didn’t just build us 1 championship team he built us a winner. Joey D’s downfall was LeBron James. Much like the Bad Boys who were aging and couldn’t do anything to stop MJ the Pistons couldn’t offset LBJ.

Of course if they just drafted Melo things might have been different. Or not getting screwed over because of the hard cap not being able to resign Okur or if Kobe wouldn’t have nixed a trade at the last minute that would have made him a Piston.

Either way we had a great run

[Futureshock]

Joey D was amazing. He didn’t just build us 1 championship team he built us a winner. Joey D’s downfall was LeBron James. Much like the Bad Boys who were aging and couldn’t do anything to stop MJ the Pistons couldn’t offset LBJ.

Of course if they just drafted Melo things might have been different. Or not getting screwed over because of the hard cap not being able to resign Okur or if Kobe wouldn’t have nixed a trade at the last minute that would have made him a Piston.

Either way we had a great run

Good point. This too shows why they should take Cade (in the absence of some Hershel Walker type deal). That one guy LeBron/MJ swayed the tables to his team so much that all you had to do was fill in the rest of the players and let him help everyone else to be successful.

Hope springs. Tigers are on a winning streak. Lions seem to be on a different track that (at least) looks and feels different & better and will be starting TC shortly. SteveY just pulled off a wicked awesome trade (IMHO) and will look to add to that over the weekend.

Olympics is starting this weekend too.

[Cody_Russell]

I'm happy with that one championship. Butterfly effect, who knows what happens if they don't draft Darko. Does Melo or DWade mess up the championship team chemistry? Who knows.

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This two round mock gives the Pistons Cade Cunningham, JT Thor, Quentin Grimes, and Isaiah Livers. I certainly like to see that in the scenario where the Pistons use all four draft picks. Don't know anything about Thor, but cool name.

2-Round NBA Mock Draft
https://www.ralphiereport.com/2021/7...ckinley-wright

[Futureshock]

I'm happy with that one championship. Butterfly effect, who knows what happens if they don't draft Darko. Does Melo or DWade mess up the championship team chemistry? Who knows.

...

This two round mock gives the Pistons Cade Cunningham, JT Thor, Quentin Grimes, and Isaiah Livers. I certainly like to see that in the scenario where the Pistons use all four draft picks. Don't know anything about Thor, but cool name.

2-Round NBA Mock Draft
https://www.ralphiereport.com/2021/7...ckinley-wright

Thor is cool. Has a decent shooting range and good length. His D is his best attribute, but if you're going for that, don't pass on Simms. I can see him getting a bunch of oops from Cade, Grant and Hayes.

Thor played well in Chicago at the combine. He does have an outside shot and an offensive game that Simms doesn't at this point.

If they found themselves at this point, they should probably make a deal to get pick #38 or #39 and take both.

[chemiclord]

I'm happy with that one championship. Butterfly effect, who knows what happens if they don't draft Darko. Does Melo or DWade mess up the championship team chemistry? Who knows.

...

This two round mock gives the Pistons Cade Cunningham, JT Thor, Quentin Grimes, and Isaiah Livers. I certainly like to see that in the scenario where the Pistons use all four draft picks. Don't know anything about Thor, but cool name.

2-Round NBA Mock Draft
https://www.ralphiereport.com/2021/7...ckinley-wright

This "what if" happens a lot, and honestly... I don't think it changes anything. Brown valued experience over all else, so even if they drafted 'Melo, he's buried behind Prince for God-knows how many years and 'Melo almost assuredly doesn't develop the way he did. Same with Bosh or Wade.

[Cody_Russell]

Drafting DWade would have taken away the Miami Heat threat in 2005-2006. The two times the Pistons played the Heat in the ECF.
Regardless... I don't remember people saying the Pistons should draft Wade at #2. I'm fine with how things turned out. Not complaining at all! It worked out for everyone but the Raptors.

[Futureshock]

This "what if" happens a lot, and honestly... I don't think it changes anything. Brown valued experience over all else, so even if they drafted 'Melo, he's buried behind Prince for God-knows how many years and 'Melo almost assuredly doesn't develop the way he did. Same with Bosh or Wade.

I agree on Melo. Mainly because he has always been... "defensively challenged" so to speak. No way LB puts him out there. Bosh and Wade though I think would get "some" run and would be apart of a 'Ship.

Wade could have been their "Vinny Johnson" until he took over later. It would have given them someone that could go right back at Bron and maybe counteracted him a bit.

[Futureshock]

Drafting DWade would have taken away the Miami Heat threat in 2005-2006. The two times the Pistons played the Heat in the ECF.
Regardless... I don't remember people saying the Pistons should draft Wade at #2. I'm fine with how things turned out. Not complaining at all! It worked out for everyone but the Raptors.

We all took the cheese about Darko. I actually liked Wade a lot (more then Bosh) in that draft.

[DanO]

"The vast majority of writers and analysts across the country feel Cade is the best of this class and I would have to agree with them."
---------------------------------------------That's what I"ve heard.