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[BJK]

Didn’t see it, but heard that Weaver was interviewed and said that Ivey was “fighting” the staff because he wanted to come back in. Hoping this is a short term sprain, but I’m concerned that it could be the dreaded high ankle sprain. Either way, shut him down for summer league.

[Cody_Russell]

Physical summer league game for sure. Soooooo many fouls. Saben Lee suffered an ankle injury too and didn’t return. Duren had a hard fall to the ground that required medical attention. Luckily it wasn’t serious and he went back in the game.

I thought Ivey, Livers, Duren, and Key impressed. Stewart had some great and mixed moments. No idea why Hayes didn’t play.

[BJK]

Stew hit a clutch 3 late. He’s now looking for that shot, and hitting them at an impressive clip (2-5 today). Given his ability to switch on defense and guard the perimeter, I think the transition to PF for him will work.

[Da Geezer]

Physical summer league game for sure. Soooooo many fouls. Saben Lee suffered an ankle injury too and didn’t return. Duren had a hard fall to the ground that required medical attention. Luckily it wasn’t serious and he went back in the game.

I thought Ivey, Livers, Duren, and Key impressed. Stewart had some great and mixed moments. No idea why Hayes didn’t play.

I was wondering why Lee wasn't in during the WAS comeback, with all the pressing. Moore was pretty much useless.

I was happy to see Johnny Davis play up to his abilities for WAS. Big Ten player of the year, but I just never saw it. WAS will find out they got nothing out of the 10th pick. It was funny to hear the announcers try to make a big deal of him, but he made only one field goal.

[The King]

Agreed 100% on Davis. He’s the definition of a Jag. He couldn’t finish in SL. Small, no AA, and can’t shoot.

[Cody_Russell]

I forgot Johnny Davis was even playing for most of the game. Seemed like Washington made their huge run with Davis on the bench.

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Speculation about Ivey’s injury:

For comparison. Josh Giddey suffered a sprained ankle injury in last year’s summer league too. Cade suffered a sprained ankle injury prior to the season last year.

[jaadam4]

It’s good that he wanted to come back in but they’ll shut him down and treat. It could be good since it won’t be the Ivey show and others scan showcase.

Who’s this Braxton kid? He’s putting up good numbers

[froot loops]

Key was playing well last year at the end of the season, he was on a 2 way contract and was one of the reasons the Pistons were hurting their draft status. He'll probably make the roster this year if there is an additional trade of one of the surplus of the bigs. But he is 25 in the Summer league.

[Da Geezer]

Agreed 100% on Davis. He’s the definition of a Jag. He couldn’t finish in SL. Small, no AA, and can’t shoot.

What does Jag mean?

[chemiclord]

Just Another Guy

[Futureshock]

But he plays hard and aware.

[Futureshock]

That play where Ivey got hurt was borderline dirty. I thought everyone knew that was a flagrant foul.

But WAS junked the game up with smalls, pressing and hard fouls. They got the benefit of the whistles too. IDGAF it's just summer league, but, I found it amusing how they wanted to win that game so bad. Had the crowd booing them at the end

[jaadam4]

Is Jim Shorts coaching them?

[Futureshock]

That was a brutal game to watch. I understand wanting your team to be competitive in most games, but, I (if I were their coach/GM) would be trying to see what my players have and to develop them in game situations. They inserted a bunch of small players and junked up the game to try and get a win. And still lost

Livers did really well and appears to be working towards being an every game player. I love what he has shown defensively this summer so far.

[Futureshock]

https://www.audacy.com/971theticket/...r-than-giannis

Andre Iguodala says Rasheed Wallace would be 'better than Giannis’ if he played in today's NBA

By Jesse Pantuosco, Audacy

Updated on 18 minutes ago

It’s already been an eventful summer for Andre Iguodala, who won his fourth championship, defeating the Celtics last month in a thrilling NBA Finals. Appearing at the American Century Championship in Lake Tahoe (he finished 57th in this year’s field), the Warriors veteran opined that Pistons great Rasheed Wallace, had he played in today’s perimeter-oriented NBA, would have been a top-five player in the league.

“Rasheed Wallace probably could have been a top-five player in the league for a 10-year stretch,” Iguodala told Jon “Stugotz” Weiner of The Dan Le Batard Show. “He was shooting halfcourt shots left-handed and right-handed. If Rasheed Wallace played in modern-day basketball, if he played in the league today, he’d be a top-five player. He’d be better than Giannis [Antetokounmpo] and I love Giannis.”

Wallace had retired by the time Antetokounmpo arrived in Milwaukee as a scrawny teenager, taking the league by storm with his rare combination of length and athleticism. It’s a stretch to compare Wallace to a two-time MVP, though they do share similar traits, both standing 6’11” with good touch around the basket. Wallace was no slouch defensively (his Pistons put on a clinic in the ’04 Finals) and arguably a better shooter than Giannis, joining Dirk Nowitzki and Chris Bosh in pioneering the “stretch four” position.

It's a whopper of a take from Iguodala and the type of loose-lipped exaggeration you’d expect from a player who has spent the past month with a drink in one hand and a cigar in the other. While Wallace may not measure up to Antetokounmpo, he’ll probably go down as one of the more underappreciated players of his era, with too much emphasis placed on his legendary temper (only two players in NBA history, Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, have been assessed more technicals) and not enough mention of his on-court accomplishments including a championship and four All-Star appearances.

Unlike many players from past generations, Wallace’s skill set would have translated well to today’s game, where post play has largely been eradicated, replaced by athletic playmakers who can shoot from anywhere on the court. One such player is Klay Thompson, a known oddball who made headlines with his reckless—perhaps drunken—behavior at the team’s victory parade in San Francisco.

“Klay will just drift,” said Iguodala of his gloriously strange teammate. “It’s hard to explain because you don’t know what you’re going to get. It’s like a box of chocolates. Like which Klay are we getting today?”

An unrestricted free agent, Iguodala would assuredly be welcomed back as a veteran mentor, though the 38-year-old may be content going out on top, leaving the NBA to pursue other interests including a budding media career as a podcast host with former teammate Evan Turner.