It's not heroic loyalty - it's hatred of the enemy. In the ESPN Bad Boys 30 for 30 there is a segment where a Pistons player was going to help an opponent up from the floor and Mahorn or Laimbeer intervened and stopped it. You hated your opponent.
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Originally posted by fontes91 View PostIt's not heroic loyalty - it's hatred of the enemy. In the ESPN Bad Boys 30 for 30 there is a segment where a Pistons player was going to help an opponent up from the floor and Mahorn or Laimbeer intervened and stopped it. You hated your opponent.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostAnd if there was player movement back then the hatred wouldn't have been so acute. it makes for good documentaries though.
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I was comparing earlier to what's come closest to the Superteam construction in the past.
Really, what KD has done is unique unto himself. I can't think of another top 5 player that left a top 5 team with another superstar on it for a championship team.
Shaq left a top 5 team with another superstar but the Lakers were a notch below being a championship contender when he joined them.
LeBron left a top 5 team that was only a top 5 team because of him. They were the worst team in the league without him.
OKC is still probably a playoff team without KD.
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None of these guys knew each other back in the day. There's the famous story of how Magic and Bird didn't really know anything about each other until they did the Converse commercial together. All these guys today know each other from the AAU circuit, offseason workouts, the Olympics. The element of camaraderie that exists today didn't have the same drivers in place 30 years ago.
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Originally posted by Mainevent View PostNone of these guys knew each other back in the day. There's the famous story of how Magic and Bird didn't really know anything about each other until they did the Converse commercial together. All these guys today know each other from the AAU circuit, offseason workouts, the Olympics. The element of camaraderie that exists today didn't have the same drivers in place 30 years ago.
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I don't doubt that if there were similar CBA rules back in the 70's and 80's that there would have been more jumping around. I'm not disputing that.
I still think most players would not jump to the team that just beat you in the conference finals. Has any other superstar ever done that?
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Originally posted by *JD* View PostI was comparing earlier to what's come closest to the Superteam construction in the past.
Really, what KD has done is unique unto himself. I can't think of another top 5 player that left a top 5 team with another superstar on it for a championship team.
Shaq left a top 5 team with another superstar but the Lakers were a notch below being a championship contender when he joined them.
LeBron left a top 5 team that was only a top 5 team because of him. They were the worst team in the league without him.
OKC is still probably a playoff team without KD.
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Kareem actually got traded to the team the Bucks defeated in the playoffs. He begged for a trade for a year. I recall that well because Kareem was my favorite player back then. Parallel? Perhaps. But not the same.
Again, IMHO a similar context is the '87 ECF.
I really don't care. I think they'll win a couple rings. I'll be rooting against them. Not necessarily for this, but because the few GS fans that I know are painful to be around when they win. Last year they were calling them the greatest team of all time. The Finals was too sweet.
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Originally posted by Tom View PostAccording to the Bad Boys 30 for 30, Isiah did ask to be traded to Chicago early in his career.
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