Tracking former Lions

[Cody_Russell]

I read a Bears 53 man roster projection article the other day and Stenberg was mentioned as a dark horse contender for a spot. Last OLineman to be cut by the writer. Tells you the difference between the Bears and Lions OLine situation because Stenberg turned into bottom tier guy this year. What a disappointment.

[kayrone]

Yay for your AAL, Deb! 😊

[-Deborah-]

Ha!!

[-Deborah-]

[dpatnod]

Glad we are not dealing with this. Good job mr. Holmes.

[CGVT]

Glad we are not dealing with this. Good job mr. Holmes.

Yeah, looks as if they knew what they were doing.

[-Deborah-]

Yeah, looks as if they knew what they were doing.

That is going to take some getting used to.

[whatever_gong82]

That is going to take some getting used to.

After all our entire lives of outside of the 1991 NFL season of realistically having no hope in winning a NFL playoff football game, I want to know- and feel- what the other legendary NFL franchises go through as far as excitement and realistic expectations for about the next 3-4 decades, if the Spirit Above allows me to live that long.

[wcfwtf]

No matter what happens in September and October, at least to a point, Remember the words of Tom Brady, the real season doesn’t start til after Thanksgiving.

[whatever_gong82]

No matter what happens in September and October, at least to a point, Remember the words of Tom Brady, the real season doesn’t start til after Thanksgiving.

For this sad sack Franchise, the real season always started as soon as we got rid of a Head Coach and/or General Manager.

And especially when the late WCF Sr. 'ran things,' it was always chaos and incompetence personified, with no hope whatsoever.

Like Deborah has said, it's weird to see actual Football competence abound in the Front Office and the Head Coaching position.

[wcfwtf]

If their a true contender we’ll see it the last 6 weeks of the year.
if their 6-5 and reel off 5 wins in 6 games they’ll go into the playoffs on a sting note.
None of this bullshit backing in.

[Cody_Russell]

LaPorta on a rookie contract vs Hockenson possibly setting the TE market. Yes, I’m expecting the Lions will come to like the value in their decision. All about opportunity cost!
Not to ignore how Hockenson is a GOOD receiving TE. We definitively don’t know what LaPorta will do in the pros. Though there’s promising clues about his potential. Reason to believe LaPorta can put up similar production that Hockenson did in Detroit.

[edindetroit]

For this sad sack Franchise, the real season always started as soon as we got rid of a Head Coach and/or General Manager.

And especially when the late WCF Sr. 'ran things into the ground' it was always chaos and incompetence personified, with no hope whatsoever.

Like Deborah has said, it's weird to see actual Football competence abound in the Front Office and the Head Coaching position.

FIFY

[whatever_gong82]

FIFY

I wish Futureshock was here to see your response to my statement.

Hoping that we will get a Super Bowl Championship in the very near future, not only for good people that passed away like Futureshock, but for all of us long suffering Detroit Lions fans.

[whatever_gong82]

This article is from The Athletic yesterday about former Detroit Lions Offensive Coordinator Tom Moore.

Very interesting article. Here it is:

45 years on NFL sidelines with the league’s most underrated offensive mind - The Athletic


Zak Keefer

Aug 30, 2023

TAMPA, Fla. — Every morning starts the same: a drive through the pre-dawn darkness, a 3:15 a.m. arrival and pages of play calls he likes to sketch in pencil. That’s how Chuck Noll taught him, and that’s how Tom Moore’s done it ever since.

Sleep in? The man’s offended. “Lay there and stare at the ceiling?” he groans. “I’m 84. I’m not sure how many days I’ve got left to live, but I know one thing: I ain’t gonna waste them sleeping.”


He’s been at this almost 70 years. His stops include Korea, where in the 1960s he led a team in the U.S. Army’s 7th Infantry Division, and the long-defunct World Football League. Back then, the New York Stars played their home games at Triborough Stadium, where the lights were so shoddy they couldn’t televise the games. But, Moore points out, “if you had a choice room at Rikers Island jail across the river, you could see the field just fine.” He didn’t get paid the last six months of the season and left dead broke.

By 1977 he’d found his way to the NFL, working under Noll in Pittsburgh. Moore spent the next five decades scripting a career as one of the greatest offensive minds in league history — and perhaps the most overlooked. “Before you had play callers getting all this attention, Tom was doing it better than anyone else,” says Clyde Christensen, who coached in the NFL for 26 years. “We’re talking about one of the best play callers of all time.”

During Moore’s 45-year NFL career, he worked with Lynn Swann and John Stallworth in Pittsburgh, Cris Carter in Minnesota, Barry Sanders in Detroit, Peyton Manning in Indianapolis, Larry Fitzgerald in Arizona and Tom Brady in Tampa Bay. And he did it by signing 45 contracts without ever hiring an agent. “If I can’t get a job myself, I don’t deserve it,” he says. “And I don’t want it.”

In June, Moore was honored with the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Award of Excellence; by July, he was back on a practice field, barking one-liners at players 60 years his junior. His current title: senior offensive consultant for the Buccaneers. More to the point: He’s a coaching lifer who can’t quit the game.

“What am I gonna do?” Moore says. “Hang out with old people?”

And ask anyone who’s ever suited up for him: this man’s words stay with you.


‘It’s a simple game. We make it hard.’



Before a road game at New England during Manning’s second season, Moore, the Colts’ offensive coordinator, was worried the Patriots would sniff out a play that burned them a year prior, a slant-and-go to Marvin Harrison that went for a touchdown. He warned Manning about using the same play call.

“Just call it and I’ll change it to a slant-go-slant,” the QB replied.

“Come up with a new name for it,” Moore urged.

Manning repped the new route with Harrison all week, and on the second drive of the game, the Colts advanced to the Patriots’ 10-yard-line. Moore wanted the slant-go-slant but realized he didn’t know the verbiage. So he improvised.

This is what Manning heard in his helmet:

All right, Peyton, let’s run dice run … scat right … ummm …

… you know what, Peyton?

… just run whatever the f— you and Marvin have been working on.

The Colts’ equipment staff — standing right next to Moore on the sideline — erupted with laughter.

“I assume a lot of people have this idea that in the NFL, we’ve got this sophisticated language and all these complex play calls,” Manning says now, trying to hold back laughter. “Well, sometimes it was as simple as Tom yelling at me to run whatever the f— Marvin and I had been working on.”

The slant-go-slant went for another touchdown.


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