U of M thread (in the Lions Forum) :)

[Newbomb Turk]

that Mallet kid just put Arkansas up 3 at LSU with 1:18 to go

too bad he isn't the right system QB for Dick Rod........

[WingsFan]

Arkansas get a sack and LSU has to use their last time out. Arkansas then gos into the prevent defense (3 man rush), I will never - never understand a 3 man prevent rush.

Do you want to win? Or take the chance you possibly could get burned and catch a lot of heat from the fans and media, I don't get it! Play the fucking game!

[WingsFan]

There you go, ND just got the ball down 7 with .59 seconds and one timeout. Jim Harbaugh and his Stanford team did not play prevent defense at ALL! Had 2 sacks and ND was stopped around midfield. Stanford wins.

[Mainevent]

ND drove all the way to Stanford's 24 helped in large part by a huge pass play to Tate.

[WingsFan]

Yes they did, then got sacked, ended at game at the Stanford 32yard line. Another poster on the college board a Stanford guy had another good point about the prevent...

"Agreed. Not to mention that a 3 man rush really tires out a defense by forcing them to chase receivers all over the field for 15-20 seconds."

[SeattleLionsFan]

Are you praising Stanford for only allowing nd to reach the 24 yard line with less than a minute left?

[WingsFan]

Yes

[Topweasel]

Yes they did, then got sacked, ended at game at the Stanford 32yard line. Another poster on the college board a Stanford guy had another good point about the prevent...

"Agreed. Not to mention that a 3 man rush really tires out a defense by forcing them to chase receivers all over the field for 15-20 seconds."

So its better to have 4 fat guys that get tired pushing against an Oline for 15-20 seconds the 7th DB to cover the 4-5 receivers? The prevent used right is the best way to keep the games in your hands. It funnels the plays into the middle of the field and there is nothing stopping a team from switching out of it when they get to the redzone.

[nhwbrooklyn]

I think the prevent has a place.. its just some coaches employ it WAY too early and end up allowing a team to march down the field, eat the last remaining clock, and get a reasonable shot at scoring the winning points (looking at you Narduzzi).

[froot loops]

People look at the drive at the end of the games and way too many times chalk it up to prevent. MSU is a great example of that, blitzing has been an even greater problem at the end of games. Offenses always look much better at the end of games because they are working with 4 downs and are throwing caution to the wind. The playbook is wide open, there is no more thought to establishing the run. You will call riskier passes because you aren't afraid of the turnover.

Basically everything that had happening for the first 55 minutes is not valid.

[Rocky Bleier]

It's like going on defense first in overtime (college). When you go on offense you know exactly what you need, and you know you will use all four downs if necessary.

[nhwbrooklyn]

People look at the drive at the end of the games and way too many times chalk it up to prevent. MSU is a great example of that, blitzing has been an even greater problem at the end of games. Offenses always look much better at the end of games because they are working with 4 downs and are throwing caution to the wind. The playbook is wide open, there is no more thought to establishing the run. You will call riskier passes because you aren't afraid of the turnover.

Basically everything that had happening for the first 55 minutes is not valid.

Its all about the timing.. prevent defense too early (often a difference of only tens of seconds) just gives the other team a far easier time marching down field and teams have been guilty of this. Prevent defense also is not a nickel or even dime package though many people mistaken this for that.

If there is to much time on the clock its far better to play a tighter nickel defense, have a much higher chance of 4 and outing them and if you do give up the big play, you have the time left on the clock to score again yourself.

As for the Spartans I think Narduzzi will have a much easier time next year in a 3-4 because of the quality linebackers at, and coming in, for MSU combined with Worthy being a stud DT while only a freshman.

[Topweasel]

Its all about the timing.. prevent defense too early (often a difference of only tens of seconds) just gives the other team a far easier time marching down field and teams have been guilty of this. Prevent defense also is not a nickel or even dime package though many people mistaken this for that.

If there is to much time on the clock its far better to play a tighter nickel defense, have a much higher chance of 4 and outing them and if you do give up the big play, you have the time left on the clock to score again yourself.

As for the Spartans I think Narduzzi will have a much easier time next year in a 3-4 because of the quality linebackers at, and coming in, for MSU combined with Worthy being a stud DT while only a freshman.

People play the prevent for fear of the big play. It might just be smarter to a Dime with the safties back another 5-10 yards then normal and just play some soft zone. That would leave a couple of harder throws open in the center but would give corners and Safeties more time to react.

This has issues if the QB has a gun or great accuracy. Each possible option out there has a weakness certain types of QB's can take advantage of. only the Prevent allows the clock to consistently keep moving. I guess the big problem is truly knowing the strengths of the opposing passing game prior to the game. The Iowa game is a perfect example of a team never forced to pass so it was almost assumed they couldn't. How can you call the right defense if you have no idea how they are going to play?

[WingsFan]

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[Dan V]

Brian Kelly will be the man, and Notre Dame will be back in two years, mark my word.