Looks as though Mr. High Moral Character Dantonio has his own wizard hat which he used to put a spell on the impressionable David Barrent. I'm sure that's Rich's fault.
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Originally posted by Masspartan View PostDavid Barrent was a 'soft verbal' to Iowa and made Michigan State his choice some 2 months ago ... he didn't flip in the 11th hour which is what this article is portraying. Not even close.Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."
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Originally posted by Masspartan View PostDavid Barrent was a 'soft verbal' to Iowa and made Michigan State his choice some 6 months ago ... he didn't flip in the 11th hour which is what this article is portraying. Not even close.
Big difference in losing a guy 6 minutes before signing day and 6 months.
You must have missed this from the article:
One of Michigan State's top offensive line prospects is David Barrent, a native of West Des Moines who originally committed to Iowa.I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.
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Didn't miss anything Rocky .... but obviously you did.
Barrent originally verballed to Iowa in May, 2008 before he had taken his visits .... by July he had changed his mind .... a full 6 months before signing day.
The whole point of the article was to shed light on guys making last minute changes ... late changes where it is way to late to recruit another player in his stead. Iowa had 6 months to offer another lineman.
Dantonio is one of the most straight up recruiters in the business by all accounts. He actually discourages guys from making a quick decision (even if they were to choose MSU) and tells them to take the other visits and talk it over with your family before commiting. It is one reason why MSU didn't have those last second changes and had all 23 signing day faxes on board by 10:00am. Coach D should be applauded, and I for one, really respect the job, intensity and integrity he brings to the table.
In the end why not admit, both schools did a nice job, though I wouldn't change the class State brought in for U-M's, but then I'm a State homer, so why would I? It would have been nice to get Campbell though.
More on Dantonio recruiting.
Forever One!
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mass last minute defections were not the point of the article but instead about the relative uselessness of verbal commits and the poaching of verbal commits within the nog ten.
A more interesting idea than an early signing day is signing non binding letters of commitment which "closes" recruiting by other schools, but would allow an athlete to rescind the agreement and re-open recruiting.To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi
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The whole point of the article was to shed light on guys making last minute changes ... late changes where it is way to late to recruit another player in his stead. Iowa had 6 months to offer another lineman.
Then why is it mentioned in the article? Because it's not just about last minute changes. It's about kids breaking their original committment, period. Or, if you believe Froot, it was to prove that Rodriguez was the first coach ever to make an offer to a kid who had already given a verbal elsewhere. It's really about kids playing the recruiting game. I don't think Barrent did. Neither did Roundtree, who didn't get an offer from Michigan until Rodriguez became coach in January. However, if he had made up his mind well before Signing Day, he should have told Tiller.I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.
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"The day started with Wisconsin plucking four-star receiver Kraig Appleton from Illinois."
-------------------------Well it's only proper that a guy named Appleton should sign with Wisconsin.
GO LIONS "09" !!!!!!!!!GO LIONS "24" !!
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostThe point of the article did focus on decommits in general but they did put some empashis on the last minute defections. The article isn't very clear that Barrent wasn't a last minute defection. It was the third example and the first two were allegedly last second defections.
He left it vague... making the reader assume MSU's coaching staff was part of the "Big Ten-on-Big Ten crime" when really that isn't the case.
But journalists do this all the time.. the main agenda here was the big ten wants an early signing date.Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."
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