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zingered!Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."Comment
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ha! But why now, how did the Blue Wall screeners let Michael Rosenberg get hired?Comment
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Don't under estimate how many of the upper escalation UofM people might be wanting to bail on RR and Martin.Originally posted by froot loops View Post
Maybe this post should be in the crazy conspiracy theory thread.Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."Comment
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U-M launches investigation into alleged NCAA violations within football program
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
Several former Michigan players indicated the number of hours they practiced did increase last season under coach Rich Rodriguez, surpassing the NCAA-mandated 20-hour weekly limit, but they said they didn't know enough to complain about it at the time and believed other schools around the country did the same.
Still, in response to published reports alleging the illegalities, the University of Michigan has launched an investigation into possible violations committed by the football program and its coaches.
"We are committed to following both the letter and the intent of the NCAA rules and we take any allegations of violations seriously," athletic director Bill Martin said in a statement released Sunday. "We believe we have been compliant with NCAA rules, but nonetheless we have launched a full investigation of the allegations.
"We have already reached out to both the Big Ten and the NCAA and we will have more to say on this as soon as we have completed our assessment."
While the NCAA is aware of the Detroit Free Press report, NCAA spokesman Chuck Wynne said Sunday it would be premature to comment on the potential ramifications for Michigan's football program.
"We don't comment on any current, pending or potential investigations," Wynne said. "The reason we have these restrictions on hours is because it's a student well-being issue. They need to have time to go to class, to practice and time to be students."
Rodriguez's first season at Michigan was in 2008. He followed Lloyd Carr, who coached the Wolverines for 13 seasons before retiring. The coaching transition certainly was trying, punctuated by player transfers and capped by a 3-9 record.
While most former players have chosen thus far not to speak on the record for fear, they said, of ramifications, Morgan Trent spoke to The News on Sunday.
"Yes, we were there all day it seemed sometimes," said Trent, a former Michigan cornerback now in his first season with the Cincinnati Bengals. "But if you expect to win, that's the sacrifice you make. I was a senior (last season under Rodriguez) -- I just wanted to win, that's all."
Still, the perception among former players, and another reason they didn't become vocal with their complaints, they said, is because they felt programs elsewhere also worked beyond the 20-hour limit.
"As much as I want to say (Rodriguez) is the only one (to surpass the 20-hour rule) and to say he's the worst, I can't," said one former player, who asked to remain anonymous. "I'm sure that happens at every school. It is what it is."
Others concurred with that evaluation.
"Every team does that, more or less," another former Michigan player said. "Everyone knows voluntary workouts you don't have to be there, but you haveto be there. A lot of guys don't even know about the rule, but everybody signed the sheets (indicating you kept to the 20-hour rule). It was never a big deal. Those sheets were signed, and that's the only paper trail there is."
Rodriguez and Judy Van Horn, the university's compliance director, denied NCAA rules violations in separate statements released Friday.
"We know the practice and offseason rules, and we stay within the guidelines," Rodriguez said. "We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules."
Van Horn indicated in her statement that her department conducts in-person spot checks of practice "during the academic year and summer. We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports."Comment
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Found this posted in another forum.
"Posted: 8/29/2009 11:44 PM
RE: Barwis, UM violated NCAA rules
I am reminded of what happened shortly after Rodriguez became coach. Recall that there was a Saginaw charity golf(?) event that had been co-organized by, I think, Cliff Ryan and a Wolverine player. This event was held during a time when there was no contact permitted with coaches.
The Wolverine players all canceled pretty much at the last minute, as the Michigan players who had committed to participate told the folks running the event that they couldn't come because of "mandatory workouts with Barwis.
After the media questioned how workouts could be mandatory at that time of year, U-M backtracked and called them voluntary. And everyone chuckled and winked at each other over there in Ann Arbor.
Maybe guys like Boren - who's now OSU's best lineman, by the way - knew something all along."
If Rosenberg is holding on to evidence this could get ugly. Someone wants RR and Martin out.Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."Comment
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Rosenberg picks and chooses voices to help his allegations out and make RR look worse.
The guy is on a mission.Rashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."Comment
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More Rosenberg... the guy is relentless.
Clemons: I will talk
Former Wolverine ready to assist if NCAA calls
BY MICHAEL ROSENBERG
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
Former Michigan receiver Toney Clemons told the Free Press on Sunday that he would tell NCAA investigators about excessive practice and workout hours when he played for coach Rich Rodriguez.
“Oh, yeah,” Clemons said. “I’ll always be honest. My mom and my dad raised me to be a stand-up guy. If they call me and I have to tell them my schedule, I’ll tell them what I went through. I will definitely tell the truth.”
Clemons went through two winters of workouts and a full season under Rodriguez before transferring to Colorado this spring. Clemons said his experience under former U-M coach Lloyd Carr and Colorado coach Dan Hawkins was very different than under Rodriguez. He said the implication everybody violated off-season and in-season hour limits, as well as rules governing voluntary activities, was “definitely false.”
“I’ve played for three coaches, I’ve seen three different systems, three different personalities of programs,” said Clemons, from New Kensington, Pa. “Not every coach does that. With Coach Carr coming in as freshmen, we understood the rules early in the summertime. We never had anybody come out and monitor anything that they weren’t allowed to be there for. And compliance at the University of Colorado is real in tune. They make sure that we know the rules.”
Clemons said most players were willing to work beyond the required hours, and that at Colorado “it becomes mandatory through your teammates. It’s not forced upon you by the coaching staff.”
He added: “The difference that came with it, and what really bothered the people, was that if they missed it, the things they had to do for missing it. It became a problem whenever people would miss a workout and had to be punished or reprimanded for missing one.”
Clemons said he never missed a workout under Rodriguez.
This guy had an impressive comment on it
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No reason to bash Clemons here guys. There's nothing wrong with telling the truth about what's going on. If people think that the practice limitations are dumb, they should take it out on the NCAA, not the people who are trying to abide by the rules. RR is not to blame either, he's just a product of the hypocrisy of NCAA DI football. It's a natural consequence of turning our academic institution's football teams into a massive revenue producing minor league for the NFL while pretending that it's an amateur sport played by students. All we're seeing is NCAA football for what it really is, which is apparently disturbing for some.
08/31/2009 2:07:24 a.m. EDTRashean Mathis: "I'm an egg guy. Last year we didn't have (the omelet station). I didn't complain, but I was dying inside."Comment
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"Michigan is maintaining "voluntary" workout programs and practice sessions.
The "nudge nudge wink wink" part about it is that the coaches know who is attending these "voluntary" sessions, and the time and practice these guys are putting in is making these "voluntary" sessions pretty much "mandatory" if you want to see the field.
And some of the old guard that were used to Lloyd Carr doesn't like it, so they're bitching anonymously."
-------------------------------I have to agree Chemi. I do believe however there are people in the UM program out to get RichRod.
GO LIONS "09" !!!!!!!!!GO LIONS "24" !!Comment
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after only one 3-9 season ???
Obviously Ford Sr has no say in what goes on in Ann Arbor......The only logical explanation is:
I'm about to die and this is my Jacob's LadderComment
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Andrew Maxwell outs Dantonio in the second paragraph:
I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.
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14 hours A DAY? I think MSU is going to be shut down! The university, not the football team.To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" KobayashiComment
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Every story about Michigan is always the most viewed, the Freep knows this. This whole story reeks of over-sensationalism. It was a sad decision by the Freep to do anything other than report on a few disgruntled players. It was , essentially, a front page editorial and highly irresponsible for a major newspaper and/ or serious journalist. Trying to smear the program a week before the season starts also shows its true that the rumors of Rosenberg having an axe to grind RR are true.
I already have had more than one nasty e-mails with Rosenberg before this. One was about his headline of "Chris Drapers days are numbered as a Red Wing" during the FINALS vs Pittsburgh (I thought it was classless and could wait).Comment
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What did Maxwell out Dantonio about? Bone up on the rules Rock Bleier.Comment
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14 hour days? He's killing those kids! Where's Rosenberg? Call ESPN! We got to get an investigation going!I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.
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