U of M thread (in the Lions Forum) :)

[nhwbrooklyn]

Yes, perfectly rational for a blind homer.

80% might be more realistic. The match-up favors MSU so heavily.

Do you understand the concept that teams match-up differently with other teams? Some are stronger vs different styles ect..?

Overall MSU is just a little better. Head to head, they have a bigger advantage though.

[Jamie H]

LOL!!! 80% on a neutral field? Like I said, pass the good stuff because you are high.

Total cherry-picking blind homer.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Do you know what Cherry-picking means as a term?

[Jamie H]

Houston shows you a piece of the bigger picture, in that a team that didn't play as hard of a schedule with less significant victories shouldn't be rewarded.

LOL!!! So let me get this straight. Nebraska played:

@Wisconsin
@Penn State
@Michigan
vs MSU
vs Ohio State

Yet you are saying their schedule compares to MSU like Houston's does to the rest of college football?

News flash--Nebraska played a TOUGHER schedule than you AND beat you handily. Houston played nobody all season and then lost by 21 points to a better team. The only real comparison between Houston and Nebraska is that they both play football and both use red as a primary color.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Lets list some factors... no they are not all equal value but lets try this out. Try to view the whole picture.

Head to head: Advantage MSU

Best win: Advantage MSU

Loss to a scrub team that you were expected to win: Advantage MSU

Played tougher teams overall: Advantage MSU

More difficult road games: Advantage MSU

Best road win: Advantage MSU

Holding home field: Tie

Winning the division: Advantage MSU (alabama haters? here?)

Total umber of losses: Advantage UofM


Anything I missed?

[SeattleLionsFan]

Lol. 80%.

[nhwbrooklyn]

LOL!!! So let me get this straight. Nebraska played:

@Wisconsin
@Penn State
@Michigan
vs MSU
vs Ohio State

Yet you are saying their schedule compares to MSU like Houston's does to the rest of college football?

News flash--Nebraska played a TOUGHER schedule than you AND beat you handily. Houston played nobody all season and then lost by 21 points to a better team. The only real comparison between Houston and Nebraska is that they both play football and both use red as a primary color.

Relentless like a honey badger. I did not say anything about Nebraskas schedule.

Iowa.

[Jamie H]

Do you know what Cherry-picking means as a term?

Yes. It means saying you are better than Michigan because you won a game over them while claiming that Nebraska is not better than you despite them beating you 24-3.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Lol. 80%.

85%

[Jamie H]

Relentless like a honey badger. I did not say anything about Nebraskas schedule.

Iowa.

Ok then. Nebraska kicked your ass AND played a tougher schedule. So they are clearly better than you.

Argument over.

Your Houston example is still 100% nonsensical. Michigan and MSU's schedule were remarkably similar. Houston didn't play anybody.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Yes. It means saying you are better than Michigan because you won a game over them while claiming that Nebraska is not better than you despite them beating you 24-3.

No. The head to head was only one factor. I have said this over and over. Don't be obtuse.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Ok then. Nebraska kicked your ass AND played a tougher schedule. So they are clearly better than you.

Argument over.

That would be nice but you ahve not presented the case that Nebraska is better.

What you have presented has failed. That UofM is equal to MSU.

[Jamie H]

As for Iowa, I can easily just use your logic to explain that away. Iowa was just an upset, and upsets happen right? Oh wait, that only explains away MSU losses.

[Jamie H]

No. The head to head was only one factor. I have said this over and over. Don't be obtuse.

There is no other factor that indicates MSU is better than Michigan. Head to head is the ONLY factor tipped towards MSU. Every other factor is almost exactly equal. So yes, you are using head-to-head exclusively.

[nhwbrooklyn]

Ok then. Nebraska kicked your ass AND played a tougher schedule. So they are clearly better than you.

Argument over.

Your Houston example is still 100% nonsensical. Michigan and MSU's schedule were remarkably similar. Houston didn't play anybody.

Of the 6 most difficult games both teams played, how many were on MSU's schedule and how many were on UofM's (or you can say 7 games or 8 games if you like)?

What does a loss to Iowa mean to you? Will you just mention Iowa once?