Red Wings

[FCRhodes]

Since Chelios is having his knee scoped, I assume that was the real reason.

[jaadam4]

Z or Feds..

I think i might pick Feds.. Thats a really tough one.

[froot loops]

Lets see if Z can get three rings

[gjdodger]

Lets see if Z can get three rings

Whatever you say, Gonz.

[froot loops]

Fed was an integral part of 3 cup championships.

[Malto Marko]

I'd take Zetterberg over Federov, based as much on attitude as anything else. Plus Z hasn't seen his best hockey yet.

I am with you. Fed has talent but does not bring it every night. Z has talent and brings it every night. Based on bringing it, I would take Z.

The best part about this question is the Wings have/had both in their prime. Winner winner chicken dinner!

[Tom]

"Fed has talent but does not bring it every night."

Again, I have to question that. How many Selke trophies was the guy nominated for? That's pretty much the definition of a guy that brings it every night. I think he also has the record for most consecutive playoffs with at least 20+ points and yet people still question him showing up in the playoffs.

[froot loops]

Forget it Tom, its a lost cause.

[Malto Marko]

"Fed has talent but does not bring it every night."

Again, I have to question that. How many Selke trophies was the guy nominated for? That's pretty much the definition of a guy that brings it every night. I think he also has the record for most consecutive playoffs with at least 20+ points and yet people still question him showing up in the playoffs.

Who cares how many he was nominated for? Fact of the matter is the guy was ultra talented. Even his teammates grumbled at his commitments.

I agree it is a lost cause. It is fine if you wish to believe that he is the best player the Wings have ever had. You might even be right if that is your opinion. My opinion comes from much experience in developing the skills necessary to play the game and participation with players of the game. I watch the game a bit differently than the average fan (as most coaches do in any sport). I saw a player that was heads and shoulders above most everyone on the ice and that came out about 60-70 percent of the time. Those are just my observations and opinions. They hold no weight in the scheme of things other than to opine that had he brought it with more consistency, he would be re-writing tons of records. Instead, he has played a lot of golf while others are playing playoff hockey.

[jaadam4]

I cant believe anyone would call Feds lazy. Bowman rode him more then anyone to be the MVP of the league. You dont win the Hart by being lazy. Dumb

[jaadam4]

Winner winner chicken dinner!

lol

[FCRhodes]

From what I remember, Federov was not happy playing second fiddle to Yzerman. He was a fantastic player, but he was put on D one year because of his attitude. Hell, I'd take Datsyuk over him also.

[froot loops]

No he was put on D because they were short defenseman, not because of attitude. But don't let facts get into the way.

Malto Marko looks at the game so differently that he didn't even see Fedorov play the 2002 playoffs.

It is fine if you wish to believe that he is the best player the Wings have ever had.

Who said that strawman?

[gjdodger]

I thought he was doing shifts on defense because the Wings needed a defenseman, and Federov could do anything. It's not like it was a punishment. Anyhow, I want to see the best athletes in the world regardless of whether they "bring it every night". If I wanted to simply observe people working hard, I'd go to Mickey D's and watch the crew during rush hour.

[FCRhodes]

Yes we were short on D, but Scottie threw him there to teach him a lesson on the importance of D. And it worked, but Federov was not happy about the move. Yet while I bitch a little, he was one of my favorite players and I would take he back in a heartbeat. Hell, if he resigns with the Capitals, I just may puchase a ticket package to watch him play with Ovechkin.