Red Wings

[jaadam4]

Either way Bert stepping up like that was really awesome. The fight didn't end like McCarty pummeling Turtle but that's how I'll see it. That was really huge and could give us the motivation to stick it to them.

Go Fucking Wings

[Sharkbait]

Yeah, actually because of the CBA with the players that is the max amount a player can be fined without being suspended at least 1 game.

Which just means they should have definitely suspended him.

Whatever, I hope Bertuzzi shows up with 2500 cash tonight and just beats the bloody piss out of Weber all game.

Good Call.

[jaadam4]

Good call and it didn't even cost him $2500!!

[Malto Marko]

Hmmmmmmm.

Mr. Unsociable and I were having a conversation about suspension during the playoffs. He brought this to my attention.

By the way, this was from the 2011 playoffs.........

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/675751-nhl-playoffs-2011-are-head-hit-suspensions-changing-the-playoffs

Many things have seemed different about this round of the NHL playoffs, and series leads in both conferences have been all but safe. Still, nothing has changed the postseason more than suspensions for hits.


In the first round, there has been a low tolerance for any hit that is considered a blind-side hit or aimed at the head. In wake of this, there have been multiple suspensions, including two in the Penguins vs. Lightning game on Monday.


How is this affecting the playoffs? There still seem to be big, spectacular hits, such as the hit on Chicago's Brent Seabrook by Vancouver's Raffi Torres, that don’t get suspended because they fall into the rules (even if Seabrook was out two games because of it).
How did Torres get away with his hit, you ask?




"This hit meets none of the criteria that would subject Torres to supplemental discipline, including an application of Rule 48: He did not charge his opponent or leave his feet to deliver this check,” NHL Senior Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell said in a statement to NHL.com. “He did not deliver an elbow or extended forearm and this hit was not 'late'."


So while we still have massive hits in the game, and some that even cause prolonged injures, the NHL has left a little space for players to still play the game and deliver hits without the fear of being suspended. This leaves the playoffs interesting for fans while also keeping players relatively safe when it comes to head hits.


There has been an outcry for a resolution to head hits and the NHL has offered a solution by handing out suspensions. But with the number of suspensions during the playoffs, it seems that it may take a little while for the players to understand that these hits will not be tolerated.
The suspensions and new no-tolerance rules have definitely changed the landscape of the playoffs in the opening round. The question is will this continue throughout the playoffs? It is a question that will have to be answered in the coming weeks, as players finally get the message that the NHL has drawn a line they aren't allowed to step over.

[froot loops]

Why does Hagelin get three games for the elbow to Alfredson's head yet Shea Weber got a $2,500 fine? It doesn't make a lick of sense. Hagelin's flagrant hit was at least somewhat of a hockey hot, Weber's in no way related to hockey.

[chemiclord]

Shae Weber = big name.

Carl Hagelin = who?

There's your answer. It's the same reason Chris Pronger could commit attempted homicide on the ice for most of his career and got all of what... 2 playoff games suspended?

[froot loops]

Perhaps, I'll go withthe Rangers official response that they are totally perplexed by the way the league is disciplining player in the playoffs. You'd think that they would have a interest in protecting the top players. Zetterberg is a big name.

Also it could be the NHL figured out that letting Weber off lightly was a green for head shots and they are trying to overcorrect. Its been a veritable goon fest with head shots since that green light was turned on.

[chemiclord]

I'm sure. I'm also sure that Shanahan and the league breathed a huge sigh of relief when Weber's shot didn't lead to serious injury. That gave them the out to say "no harm, no foul" and have both big name players still active in the series.

[froot loops]

Well its stupid short term thinking, precisely because Weber is name player that he should have been suspended. They have been talking up player safety and elimianting head shots, that can only be accomplished if you suspend the name players and do it when the opposing player isn't hurt. If you only supend player if the opposing player is out or the offending player is a no-name player, you will be unsuccessful at enforcing anything.

[Malto Marko]

The Philly, Pittsburgh was an officiating nightmare.

Lots of cheap shots from both sides. Crosby more than once attacked another player from behind. When the player turned around and retaliated, a second Pittsburgh player jumped into the fray and took over for Crosby. Crosby then turned and started up with someone else.

Officials handed out lots of majors and misconducts but, too late to show any control of the game. Oh, ya, and no misconduct for Crosby even though he was a big part of the problem.

[froot loops]

I didn't see much of that game but what I did see of it would make the Johnstown Chiefs blush. If anything the NHL has made it known that if the NFL has no use for the likes of Sean Payton and Gregg Williams, the NHL would welcome them.

[chemiclord]

Well its stupid short term thinking, precisely because Weber is name player that he should have been suspended. They have been talking up player safety and elimianting head shots, that can only be accomplished if you suspend the name players and do it when the opposing player isn't hurt. If you only supend player if the opposing player is out or the offending player is a no-name player, you will be unsuccessful at enforcing anything.

People in Nashville pay to see Shea Weber play, not some podunk Black Ace that they wouldn't even know was on their team if he wasn't wearing the uniform.

That's Bettman logic. Don't forget he's a David Stern protege.

[froot loops]

People in Vancouver go to see Daniel Sedin play and they pay in Pittsburgh to see Sydney Crosby play. You take them out for a year with a bad concussion they don't see them for the year. People in Detroit pay to see Henrik Zetterberg play. I don't doubt its their logic in why they didn't suspend Weber, but its still short term stupid. You're giving them the free pass to put bounties on stars heads and you get what you saw today in the Philly/Pittsburgh game.

Bettman didn't learn adaquately from Stern. Stern's league protects its star players, the NHL for as long as I've watched condones putting a target on them. The only way to keep stars protected in this league is to employ cementhead goons.

[chemiclord]

People in Vancouver go to see Daniel Sedin play and they pay in Pittsburgh to see Sydney Crosby play. You take them out for a year with a bad concussion they don't see them for the year. People in Detroit pay to see Henrik Zetterberg play. I don't doubt its their logic in why they didn't suspend Weber, but its still short term stupid. You're giving them the free pass to put bounties on stars heads and you get what you saw today in the Philly/Pittsburgh game.

Bettman didn't learn adaquately from Stern. Stern's league protects its star players, the NHL for as long as I've watched condones putting a target on them. The only way to keep stars protected in this league is to employ cementhead goons.

Of course it's short term stupid. I'm by no means defending the attitude.

[Malto Marko]

Hmmmmmm.

Weber gets a fine and no suspension for slamming of the head while Hagelin gets 3 games for an elbow and Carkner gets one for throwing punches.

I can see the logic here.