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[El Axe]

saw some speculation that the “dream” for the raiders would be to land Johnson and pay a kings ransoms to Minnesota for McCarthy

ugh, that is way to competent for my comfort level. I want Johnson to stay, obviously.

[mason reese]

ugh, that is way to competent for my comfort level. I want Johnson to stay, obviously.

It really would be a worst case for us. Losing Johnson and Minny getting a boatload of picks

[froot loops]

I'm not sure McCarthy is worth a king's ransom. He was the 10th overall pick and hasn't done anything yet.

[CGVT]

Yeah. I figured MN would be a non-factor this year because they would be going through rookie growing pains and far as we know, he may be a bust.

[DanO]

I think the Vikings would be foolish to get rib of McCarthy.

[Mainevent]

McCarthy isn’t going to get a a massive return. Would the Raiders give up #6 for a guy who didn’t play coming off of an injury? Seems unlikely, but maybe a swap of firsts or a couple of second day picks, something like that.

That said, not sure Vikings deal him. They have two choices with Darnold - try to sign him to a Baker Mayfield like deal (3 for $100M) or franchise him. They franchise him they basically are making Darnold prove it for a 2nd year. If he goes off again, then they’ll have to hand out that top of the market deal. But if he steps back, they could pivot to McCarthy.

[CGVT]

McCarthy isn’t going to get a a massive return. Would the Raiders give up #6 for a guy who didn’t play coming off of an injury? Seems unlikely, but maybe a swap of firsts or a couple of second day picks, something like that.

That said, not sure Vikings deal him. They have two choices with Darnold - try to sign him to a Baker Mayfield like deal (3 for $100M) or franchise him. They franchise him they basically are making Darnold prove it for a 2nd year. If he goes off again, then they’ll have to hand out that top of the market deal. But if he steps back, they could pivot to McCarthy.

If Darnold continues to be the Sam Darnold we know and love and lays an egg tonight they'll let him move on.

I think the odds of that happening are pretty good. Then the Vikings are starting a QB who is essentially an unproven rookie next year and will have to deal with the consequences. Either that or Danny Dimes. I like that as well

The packers will still have a vastly overrated Jordan Love and the Bears will continue to be the Bears, even with a new coach.

I like the look of the NFC North next year

[Mainevent]

I guess they could let him walk and try to mimic the success with Dimes, but after that video in the locker room after the Packers game, hard to see them just walking away from Darnold.

[froot loops]

I think they stay with Darnold. The part about him laying an egg is valid but I also kind of think he is in the same type of position Goff was. A still young quarterback with a pedigree that turned into a punchline but still has ability. He turned into a punchline basically because he was in two shit situations. Around the league, opinions on him were very high. Belichick said this year that everyone knew Sam was good but the Jets mishandled it.

He is finally in a good situation and he is producing. He was bad last Sunday but the Lions bum rushed the Vikings and the whole team was at fault. They were not expecting that.

To me McCarthy is a huge unknown.

[Sanders Fan]

McCarthy out in Dallas. Wonder if he’ll end up with the Bears.

[Mainevent]

Cowboys hire will be interesting. Don't see that as a Ben Johnson destination, but who knows. Glenn is Texas born and raised, so maybe he's in the mix. But given their experience in Detroit, would they want to step into the Jerry Jones circus?

[Cody_Russell]

Ben Johnson should definitely take the call and see what the Cowboys have to say. Get a feeling of how their front office would work and the wiggle room for change. Such as if the Cowboys would hire Lance Newmark as GM and Jerry not meddling with decisions. I personally wouldn’t like it as a Lions fan, but it objectively could make sense for Johnson. Awesome football facility, top 10-ish QB in Dak, no state income tax, and Jerry has the $$$ to spend. Again, I just question if the front office would make changes and if Johnson wants the national sports media attention.

As for the Bears and Mike McCarthy. On the surface, it seems like a blah idea. I think we can all agree that McCarthy can raise the floor of a team. It’s just a question of what ceiling he has nowadays. Similar to Jim Caldwell. Acknowledging that McCarthy did win a championship, but we don’t see him as that elite tier of head coach today.

[CGVT]

Jerrah is not giving up control. The Cowboys are fucked as long as he is alive. (can you say WCF?)

[froot loops]

I'm not sure Washington would let Newmark go to the Cowboys.

[Iron Lion]

People are saying that the Ravens win the Super Bowl every 12 years with a 28 year old QB and getting a kickoff return TD and totaling 34 points, and they are due because their QB is 28 and it's been 12 years.

I think the true pattern is that they win it all when the world is supposed to be ending. 2000 and Y2K, 2012 and the Mayan calendar, and finally 2024 and this fuckin' world in it's current state.