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I would argue its thriving because of Dan Gilbert.
It would still be Greek town go home
It would still be Greek town go home
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It's much more than Dan Gilbert.Comment
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No proof of that. However once you get the ball rolling than a lot of good things can happenComment
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Normally, I don't watch at all, but I flipped to the pro bowl stuff last night and saw that Jack Fox was competing in the punt competition, and decided to watch a bit.
The competition has the AFC & NFC punters and one non-punter each get something like 30 seconds to punt as many balls into these targets. Whichever pair of players get the most in wins. It was tied 13-13 after the initial round. The overtime round had both punters get an additional, I think, 20 seconds. It was tied again after the overtime round when the AFC punter got a last-second punt in.
It then went into sudden-death where each punter got a kick and ended when the AFC punter got one in and Fox didn't match it.
Anyway, that really wasn't the highlight. The highlight came when Fox had a poor round in the overtime and blurted out "Fuck!" unedited on national TV, lol.
His "highlight" comes around 12:08 of the video
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Who is Kelvin Sheppard? What to know about Lions’ new defensive coordinator
By Colton Pouncy
Jan 29, 2025
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DETROIT — One of the most intriguing offseasons of the Dan Campbell era is underway. The focus is on the reconstruction of his coaching staff.
Former offensive coordinator Ben Johnson is off to Chicago to lead the Bears. Former defensive Aaron Glenn is now the head coach of the New York Jets. Both will be missed in Detroit, but Campbell and company must move forward with the assistants remaining. That process has already begun.
This is a two-part series diving into the backgrounds of Campbell’s replacements — defensive coordinator Kelvin Sheppard and offensive coordinator John Morton. Both have longstanding ties to Campbell. Both know what he’s all about. And both will get their chance to work with one of the league’s most talented rosters, with the goal of bringing a Super Bowl to Detroit.
Up first: Sheppard.
Sheppard’s background and ties to Campbell
Sheppard, 37, is an Atlanta native who played college football at LSU and won a national championship as a player. He developed into a first-team All-SEC linebacker by his final season in Baton Rouge, which prompted the Buffalo Bills to select him in the third round of the 2011 NFL Draft.
Those who know Sheppard best view him as a player who had to maximize his talent with a high football IQ. Ultimately, that’s what helped him last in the league for eight seasons (including a stint with the Lions). Along the way, coaches raved about his intelligence as a middle linebacker — the quarterback of the defense — and let him know he’ll be a coach one day.
Campbell was one of them.
“There’s a number of guys you can just tell by the way they play,” Campbell told The Athletic in 2022 when asked how he knew Sheppard could be an NFL coach. “And I’ll be honest with you — most of them are usually the guys that have to maximize what they have ability-wise because maybe you don’t have the elite talent. He was a guy, man, who had to do everything right to succeed. And that’s what he did. You have to know every little nuance, every technique. Every fundamental has got to be on point. So with that, you understand how to coach that. And really, a lot of times, you’re the player who’s coaching the young players. You’re really just another coach. And that’s what he was. So, I knew early that he was going to be one of those guys.”
Campbell and Sheppard crossed paths with the Dolphins. Sheppard was a linebacker, while Campbell was Miami’s tight ends coach for multiple years, before becoming the team’s interim head coach in 2015. Sheppard has fond memories of his time with Campbell in Miami. They might not have known it at the time, but that stint would lead to this current marriage.
“I can remember him bringing me up to his office and him acknowledging my knowledge and him acknowledging my leadership ability,” Sheppard said previously. “From there, it was being the captain of his team. I kind of attached to Dan as someone that cared about me more than just a football player. I would reach out to him for advice. And through that, he was like, ‘You’re going to be coaching one day.’”
Campbell was one of the coaches who encouraged Sheppard to get into coaching — and be himself doing it. He got his start on LSU’s staff in more of an off-field role as director of player development during the 2020 season. A year later, Campbell was hired in Detroit, and Sheppard joined him.
After working with the defensive ends in 2021, Sheppard has coached Detroit’s linebackers for the past three seasons. He’s credited with the development of players like Derrick Barnes, Malcolm Rodriguez, Jack Campbell and, to an extent, a veteran like Alex Anzalone. He’s been one of Campbell’s better position coaches since he joined the staff.
Given their ties, it’s no surprise Campbell turned to Sheppard to run his defense. Sheppard had other opportunities across the league, but ultimately, stayed with the Lions who promoted from within.
Sheppard’s coaching influences
In addition to Campbell, two of Sheppard’s coaching influences just so happen to be some of the best defensive minds in the game today: Lou Anarumo and Steve Spagnuolo.
Sheppard played for Anarumo in Miami, where Campbell was interim head coach. He’s known for sending simulated pressures to confuse the quarterback pre- and post-snap. Anarumo was the defensive coordinator for a Bengals team that beat the Chiefs in the 2022 AFC Championship, en route to a Super Bowl appearance. After his defense was torched in the first half by Patrick Mahomes and company, Anarumo made a second-half adjustment to drop eight into coverage routinely. In that second half and the ensuing overtime period, Mahomes was 8 for 18 for 55 yards, two interceptions and was sacked four times. Anarumo was the mastermind behind the strategy and was applauded for the adjustment.
Spagnuolo needs no introduction. He’s become one of the greatest defensive coordinators in NFL history, with four Super Bowl victories as a DC and a shot at a fifth one in a few weeks as the Chiefs’ DC. He coached Sheppard when Sheppard played for the New York Giants, and Spagnuolo was in his second stint as the Giants’ DC. Spagnuolo loves to blitz and send pressure from different angles, but he times them better than any DC in the league. We saw it in the Super Bowl last year, and most recently in the AFC Championship. He’s an excellent situational strategist. Again, Sheppard learned from him.
“I went to the Giants in 2016,” Sheppard said. “There, I ran Coach Spagnuolo’s defense. Coach Spags, that’s my guy. He’s in Kansas City now as the D-Coordinator, and he told me, ‘You’re going to be a coach when you’re done.’ Lou Anarumo, D-Coordinator in Cincinnati. He said, ‘You’re gonna be a coach when you get done.'”
Between Anarumo, Spagnuolo and Glenn, Sheppard has learned from some excellent defensive minds. Considering who he’s played for and coached with, you have to think Sheppard will take some things he’s learned from the past and try to incorporate them into Detroit’s defense of the future. It should aid him as he takes over the lead job defensively.
What Sheppard’s defense might look like
Anarumo (now with the Colts) joined the Bengals in 2019 and spent five seasons there. Spagnuolo joined the Chiefs that same year. Knowing how influential they were in Sheppard’s football life, what can we take away from their time with those respective teams?
It’s hard to say definitively, but we can take a look at some tendencies and try to project.
Both the Chiefs and Bengals have been man-heavy teams for the past five seasons. Since 2019, the Chiefs rank sixth in man coverage rate at 32.9 percent, while the Bengals rank eighth at 30.6 percent (though they were 18th in 2024). Spagnuolo is more blitz-heavy, ranking 5th in the league in that span. Anarumo sent five or more rushers just 25.2 percent of the time, per TruMedia. That ranks 23rd. Both of their defenses have ranked among the top 10 in DB blitzes since 2019, so there appears to be some crossover there.
Under Glenn in 2024, the Lions’ defensive philosophy was quite clear. They led the league in man coverage rate at 41.5 percent, per TruMedia. They had the third-highest blitz rate at 38.4 percent. When you factor in their SAM linebacker looks (a third LB who can either rush the passer or drop into coverage on a given play) the Lions played more snaps out of a 4-3 package than any other team in 2024 (38.5 percent of the time — 391 total). The Lions also led the league in Cover 1 snaps with 253. It’s a defense best utilized with a secondary that’s built to play man coverage. Glenn ran it more than any other DC in the league, which allowed safeties Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch to do their thing at various levels of the defense, with Detroit’s corners and linebackers handling their responsibilities on the outside and the shallow parts of the field. The Chiefs ranked 14th and the Bengals ranked 17th in 2024.
During OTAs, Sheppard was asked what having corners who excel in man coverage can do for his linebackers.
“Oh, it can do wonders,” Sheppard said. “I mean, we’ve added (DJ) Reader, we’ve added (Marcus) Davenport. I mean, these guys are high-end players in this NFL who’ve proven it already. So it’s not skepticism. You’re not looking over your shoulder. And I’m not saying that’s what was happening, but it is what it is. Guys trying to overcompensate for what they thought were places they needed to help instead of doing their job, and that bit a bunch of people in the butts last year. Just getting off the bus knowing you got guys — and it’s the confidence thing, too. Like, being on this practice field, hearing corners talking trash out the huddle, saying, ‘I got this guy and it’s nothing you gonna do about it.’ I haven’t been around that since I’ve been here and I’ve rarely been around it in the league. It’s rare you get guys like that — that walk, talk and act with that type of confidence, and we have multiple of them right now. So it’s always a thing of beauty for sure.”
And here’s what Campbell had to say about what he wants the defense to look like.
“I want to play man — we want to play man,” Campbell said at this end-of-season news conference. “I’m going to pressure a little bit. So, these things are not going to go away. We are what we are, but ultimately, it’s always going to be about, ‘How do we put the players we have in the best position to have success, which in turn gives us the ability to have success?’”
In the end, Detroit’s defense could ultimately look similar to what we saw in 2024. After all, that’s how they’ve built it and that’s what the personnel on the roster suggests. But every coach is going to put their own touch on things. Expect Sheppard to do the same, given some of his ties in this league.
Concerns about being a first-time coordinator
There was a time when Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn were both first-time coordinators with the Lions. They’ve since graduated to head coach.
The concern over a first-time DC like Sheppard is fair. The Lions are in a Super Bowl window. Their roster has more ready-made talent than those early years. And we don’t know how he’ll do or what his defense will look like until the games begin. There could be growing pains along the way.
But the Lions historically under Campbell have done a good job pairing young minds with experienced veterans. In Campbell’s first year, Former head coach and longtime defensive coordinator Dom Capers was on staff as a senior defensive assistant, working with Glenn in his first year as a DC. In 2022, John Morton — Detroit’s newest OC, and the subject of a similar story later in the week — was here to help Johnson as a senior offensive assistant and help mold the offense in his first year as OC.
As of now, the Lions still have Jim O’Neil, a former defensive coordinator who worked with Detroit’s safeties this past season, in their defensive assistant role. We’ll see if he sticks around — he’s a Glenn guy — but if he does, that’s a coach who’s been in Sheppard’s shoes before. If not, maybe the Lions bring in someone else who’s more familiar with Sheppard.
One way the Lions are helping Sheppard is the addition of new defensive line coach and former Bucs assistant Kacy Rodgers, who replaces new Patriots DC and former Lions’ DL coach Terrell Williams. Rodgers has been a DC before with the Jets and has coached with one of the best defensive minds in the game in Todd Bowles each season since 2015. Since heading to Tampa Bay in 2019, the Bucs have ranked first in yards per carry allowed (4.0), first in defensive rushing success rate (64.5 percent), second in yards before contact per rush (1.26) and seventh in yards after contact per rush (2.73). A strong move by Campbell to bring in a coach who’s had as much success as Rodgers has in this league.
Additionally, the Lions retained defensive backs coach Deshea Townsend — who interviewed with the San Francisco 49ers for their once-vacant DC gig — and are promoting assistant LBs coach Shaun Dion Hamilton to LBs coach. With Townsend coaching the backend, Rodgers working with the defensive line, a rising assistant in Dion Hamilton taking over the LB room and Sheppard overseeing the entire unit, there should be enough brainpower on staff and talent on the roster to remain competitive as an overall defense.
However, the spotlight will be on Sheppard to make the most of the group he’s been given the keys to.
Colton Pouncy
Colton Pouncy is a staff writer for The Athletic covering the Detroit Lions. He previously covered Michigan State football and basketball for the company, and covered sports for The Tennessean in Nashville prior to joining The Athletic. Follow Colton on Twitter @colton_pouncyComment
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Who is John Morton? What new Lions offensive coordinator brings to high-powered team
By Colton Pouncy
Jan 31, 2025
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DETROIT — For the last three seasons, the Detroit Lions have been the envy of the league when it comes to offensive success. No team has scored more points than the Lions since 2022. No team has totaled more yards than the Lions since 2022. It was a remarkable run under then-offensive coordinator Ben Johnson — one the team now hopes will continue without him.
Johnson is off to Chicago as head coach of the Bears. The Lions had internal options to replace him but settled on John Morton, who most recently served as the passing game coordinator of the Denver Broncos.
So, then, who is Morton? What does he bring to the table? How will Detroit’s offense look with him in charge?
We’ll attempt to answer those questions and more, in part two of our series exploring Detroit’s new coordinators.
Morton’s coaching influences and resume
One of the most impressive things about Morton might be who he’s worked with and for. That’s not said in jest. He’s been around some of the best coaches and brightest offensive minds, as he closes in on 30 years as a coach — almost a quarter-century in the NFL.
During Morton’s playing days bouncing around various training camps and practice squads as a wide receiver, he spent time around Mike Holmgren and John Gruden. When he retired, he joined Gruden’s coaching staff as an offensive assistant/quality control coach with the Oakland Raiders. From there, he’s worked with the likes of Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian and Sean Payton — including multiple stints with Harbaugh and Payton.
Morton has been a play caller in past stints. He called plays at USC for Pete Carroll. He told reporters he called plays the 49ers for “a little bit” under Harbaugh. And he called plays for Todd Bowles’ New York Jets in his lone season as an NFL offensive coordinator. Those Jets ranked 24th in points per game (18.6) and 28th in yards (305.3).
However, it’s worth noting it featured journeyman Josh McCown at quarterback, Bilal Powell and 32-year-old Matt Forte as its leading rushers, and Robbie Chosen and Jermaine Kearse as its leading receivers. Not exactly what he had in New Orleans, or what he’ll have in Detroit.
Perhaps a better indicator of how Morton is viewed in this league is that he’s continued to land NFL gigs year after year, seen as an asset by some of the game’s best minds.
As the Broncos’ passing-game coordinator last season, Morton oversaw the rise of Bo Nix, who threw for the second-most passing touchdowns (29), third-most completions (376) and eighth-most passing yards (3,775) by a rookie quarterback in NFL history. His background in the NFL has been as a wide receivers coach, so expect to see him working with that group and offering tips when he can. Denver receivers, including Courtland Sutton, credited Morton for his work with them and attention to detail.
“He stays on most of them,” Payton said of Morton’s coaching style and work with Denver’s receivers, in particular. “He coaches them hard, he coaches them with love because he sees what they have. … He’s teaching all the time. I’ve been with him a long time, and I like hearing it. I like hearing it from a coach with passion because I think the players do as well. It’s when it gets quiet and no one’s talking to you is when you have to begin to worry.”
He has the feel of a Dan Campbell type of coach. Here’s more on that pairing.
Morton’s background and ties to Campbell
Morton, 55, is a local product. He was born in Auburn Hills, Mich., graduated from Avondale High and went on to play wide receiver at Western Michigan. In an industry like this, you go where you’re wanted. But being a bit closer to home can’t hurt.
Campbell and Morton were on staff together with the Saints during the 2016 season. Morton was Payton’s wide receivers coach, while Campbell was the assistant head coach/tight ends coach. The Saints were a pass-heavy offense under Payton with Drew Brees, and Morton oversaw two 1,000-yard receivers in Brandin Cooks (1,173) and rookie Michael Thomas (1,137), while also coaching Willie Snead (895).
Though Morton’s first stint as an NFL offensive coordinator was short-lived, Campbell is giving him another opportunity — largely because of their work together during the 2022 season.
Campbell hired Morton as a senior offensive assistant that season. It just so happened to be Johnson’s first year as an offensive coordinator and play caller. He was only 35 at the time. Considering Campbell had fired Anthony Lynn just one year into his Detroit tenure, it was crucial for him to get the next hire right.
One thing Campbell does a good job of is pairing inexperienced coordinators with veterans who’ve been around the block. He did it with defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn in 2021, hiring former head coach/defensive coordinator Dom Capers as a senior defensive assistant. He did the same in 2022, bringing in Morton to help Johnson.
The Lions ranked 25th in points per game (19.1) and 22nd in yards per game (322.6) during the 2021 season. Better health, added talent and the addition of Johnson in the lead role helped the offense increase those totals to 380 yards per game and 26.6 points per game — fourth and fifth in the league that year. The Lions would remain top five in those categories each season under Johnson. However, if you listen to Campbell’s comments over the years, it’s clear that he credits Morton for getting things off the ground.
Here’s Campbell from the 2023 NFL Combine, answering a question about adding John Fox as a senior defensive assistant: “I just felt like it was going to be good for us like Johnnie Morton (was) for us this year. It was behind the scenes, and I don’t know if everyone understands just how important he was for us.”
Here’s Campbell in October 2023: “John Morton, man, Johnny was — Johnny’s a superstar now and there’s a number of things that he did for us last year that are things that we’ve kept.”
Morton now joins a Lions’ staff under construction. Johnson, wide receivers coach Antwaan Randle El and assistant QBs coach JT Barrett are now with the Bears. Passing game coordinator Tanner Engstrand and tight ends coach Steve Heiden are expected to join Glenn with the New York Jets. There will be some new faces on staff. However, Morton’s familiarity with the staff from his time here in 2022 gives him an advantage most external OC hires wouldn’t have.
The Lions were able to retain offensive line coach Hank Fraley, giving him a promotion to running game coordinator. He’ll work closely with Morton, and those two know each other from 2022. Quarterbacks coach Mark Brunell crossed paths with Morton during their playing days with the Jaguars (albeit, brief), and coached together in 2022.
Running backs coach Scottie Montgomery has coached wide receivers in the NFL, so you have to think he and Morton speak the same language. And the Lions are reportedly hiring David Shaw as passing game coordinator. Those two are part of the Gruden/Harbaugh tree, and spent the past season together in Denver. Given their Harbaugh ties, the Lions are still going to run the ball, folks
We’ll hear from Campbell and Morton in a few weeks at the NFL Combine to learn more about his role in 2022 and moving foward, but clearly, it was enough for Campbell to feel comfortable with this hire.
Campbell said he wants things to look similar to what the Lions have done in recent years, so he wouldn’t bring in a coach like Morton if he wanted to rock the boat. Expect them to work together to keep the elements that worked in place. With that in mind, let’s take a look at some things the Lions did well under Johnson, and how it compares to what Morton has been a part of in recent years.
Play-action: Jared Goff led the NFL in play-action rate in 2024 at 36.3 percent, per Next Gen Stats. Bo Nix, Morton’s QB in Denver, ranked ninth in play-action percentage at 26.8. Of the 39 touchdowns thrown by Lions passers in 2024, 17 came on play-action — the most such touchdowns in the league. The Broncos were tied for third with 15.
Detroit quarterbacks had a passer rating of 123.5 on play-action attempts — good for third in the league. The Broncos, with a rookie QB, ranked 11th at 105.2. That’s a hallmark that should remain in place under Morton, if the goal is to keep things similar.
In-breaking routes: In 2024, the Lions ranked fourth in the NFL in in-breaking pass attempts with 202. Lions passers, obviously led by Goff, were excellent on such attempts. Detroit led the league in in-breaking passing yards (2,189) and ranked second in touchdowns (18).
Detroit QBs had a collective passer rating of 125.6 (second highest in the league), a completion rate of 73.3 (2nd) a yards per attempt average of 10.8 (2nd) and an EPA per dropback of 0.5 (third). Goff is the best QB in the league on in-breaking routes. As a longtime offensive mind and passing game coordinator, Morton is expected to play into those strengths.
Downfield attempts: One difference could be more of a willingness to throw the ball downfield. If you look at the Broncos’ offense in 2024, you’ll find a few clues. Of Denver’s pass attempts last season, 22.3 percent of them traveled 15 or more air yards and 13 percent traveled 20 or more air yards, per TruMedia. Both of those marks were the ninth highest in the NFL.
As for the Lions, just 18.5 percent of Detroit’s pass attempts traveled 15 or more air yards (25th in the NFL) and only 8 percent traveled 20 or more air yards (30th).
That said, these same statistics for the Jets in 2017 were more in line with Detroit in 2024. Only 17.1 percent of Jets pass attempts traveled 15 or more air yards (27th) and only 10.8 percent traveled 20 or more (24th).
Additionally, it’s worth mentioning that good coordinators and offensive minds can tailor their offenses to fit the strengths of their quarterbacks and personnel. The Lions were still highly successful despite their low air-yard totals because they had backs capable of creating on screens and short routes and pass catchers who generated yards after the catch. Expect Morton to play to those strengths.
Run-pass balance: When Morton was the Jets’ OC in 2017, 59.1 percent of the team’s offensive plays were pass attempts (excluding garbage time). Where did that rank league-wide? Just 19th. Meanwhile, the Jets ranked 11th in rush percentage that season at 43.8 percent (excluding garbage time). League average was 60.6 percent pass; 42.4 percent run. Morton has worked for pass-heavy offenses and for a run-oriented coach like Harbaugh. As an OC, he didn’t skew too far in either direction, showing solid balance despite a lack of talent in the run and passing game.
How about his time with the Broncos? Let’s look at Denver’s run-pass splits, excluding garbage-time snaps. In 2024, Denver ran the ball on 42.4 percent of its non-garbage time plays, which ranked 19th in the NFL. The league average this past season was 43.3 percent — so you’re talking about a 0.9 percent difference. Meanwhile, Denver threw the ball 63 percent of the time, which was the ninth-highest rate in the league (non-garbage time). League average was 60.5 percent.
Excluding garbage time, Detroit ran the ball 47.0 percent of the time (seventh highest) and threw the ball 54.8 percent of the time (fifth lowest).
What should we make of those splits? It’s important to note that the Broncos did not have a true lead back or a runner at the level of a Jahmyr Gibbs or David Montgomery. Javonte Williams led the team in rushing with 513 yards, while Jaleel McLaughlin ranked second with 496 and Nix ranked third with 430.
You’d have to think those splits would look different, especially with a rookie QB starting, if they had more talented rushers. That won’t be an issue in Detroit. Between Gibbs and Montgomery in the backfield, Fraley earning the title of run-game coordinator and Campbell’s two-back philosophy still intact, there shouldn’t be much to worry about.
Motion rate: The Lions averaged just under 66 offensive plays per game last season. Of those plays, roughly 47 of them featured a man in motion — third most in the league, per TruMedia. Here’s the top 5 for context: 1. Dolphins, 2. Rams, 3. Lions, 4. 49ers and 5. Packers. Notice a trend, there? It’s the Shanahan tree and Johnson. Some of the best play callers in the league. The Broncos, however, were dead last in plays with a man in motion per game, averaging just 26.
Having a man in motion can be extremely advantageous for a quarterback and an offense. It can help identify the coverage they’re getting and where they need to go with the ball. It can create matchups. It can also help your best playmakers to reach near-top speed before the ball is snapped. It’s something Lions coaches have discussed over the years.
“Everybody has their own reasons why,” Glenn said of the usage of motion around the league. “Sometimes you get man-zone tells, sometimes you’re starting to get spacing throughout the defense, sometimes you’re trying to get matchups. So, I can’t tell you exactly why each team does it, but I know the mindset of why teams do it, and those three things are part of it.”
“There’s not a lot of appreciation for what he does before the snap with the cadence, the motions, the shifts, the premiere plays that we try to get into at times,” Johnson said of Goff. “That’s what really, I think makes our offense special.”
How much of the Broncos’ lack of motion usage realistically falls on Morton as opposed to Payton? And does it really matter? Morton is no stranger to motion usage. He’s seen just about everything the game has to offer, considering his past stops in this league.
In Detroit, the Lions increased their motion usage each of their three years with Johnson leading the way — from 17th in 2022 to 10th in 2023 to 3rd in 2024. If Morton had a hand in designing the offensive structure in 2022, there’s no reason to think he won’t be able to keep Detroit’s motion rate high with the success the Lions have had with it. That’s where, ideally, you lean on the rest of the coaching staff and Goff.
Every coordinator is going to put his own touch on things. However, Campbell wants this thing to look as close to what the Lions have run as possible.
“I’m going to be involved no matter what because I think that’s best for our offense, but also Goff,” Campbell said last week. “This thing is set up for Goff to have success with our playmakers, St. Brown, our running backs, the O-line, the whole deal, Jamo. And so, I want to keep that in place, I want to keep our terminology in place and I want to make sure that Goff is comfortable because he’s playing at a high level.”
It’s on Campbell, Morton and the rest of the offensive staff to ensure he does.
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Basically, it sounds like Sheppard & Morton will keep things on the same track.Comment
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Which was no doubt part of the reason why they were chosen.Originally posted by El Axe View PostComment
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The legacy of Yooperman is being recognized!
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Not our Yooperman. Ours was Wally Strand.I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it onComment
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Ok TY I thought we had a Yooperman here but didnt know his name is RL....oh well at least the Lions won an award...NFL fan of the year.Originally posted by CGVT View PostComment
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I think the main takeaway is Yooperman is probably a common nickname.Comment
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Just like Troll for us people under the bridgeComment
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TrueOriginally posted by froot loops View Post
Our Yooperman was a funny SOB, though. I miss his posts.I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it onComment
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