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  • #46
    The Lions went for it on fourth down 33 times in 2024; what was the cumulative value of those decisions?

    Justin Rogers
    Jan 9



    It didn’t take long into Dan Campbell’s tenure as the Detroit Lions head coach to understand his affinity for aggressive play-calling. In his first year on the job, the team went for it on fourth down a then-NFL record 41 times.


    Of course, the strategy could then be viewed as a necessity. That was most apparent in a midseason matchup against the eventual Super Bowl champion Rams, when the overmatched Lions pulled out all the stops with a surprise onside kick and two fake punts.

    But as the Lions morphed into legitimate contention, Campbell has remained aggressive. They’ll still fake a punt on occasion, and they’ve been top four in fourth-down tries each year, including 33 in 2024.


    But what is the cumulative value of Detroit’s fourth-down aggression? Spurred by a question in the Detroit Football Network chat, I attempted to find out.

    It's difficult to quantify the confidence it breeds throughout the roster or the mental strain it puts on an opponent. But we can establish a base-level understanding of points gained or lost through the 33 tries and 22 conversions in 2024.


    After combing the team’s 17 box scores to highlight each fourth-down attempt, we can assign a simple point value. For successful conversions outside field-goal range that led to points, it's a net gain of three or seven, depending on if the team netted a field goal or touchdown later in the series.

    For a successful try within field-goal range, the net gain is zero if they settled for a field goal later in the drive or four points if they punched it into the end zone.


    And on the tries where they failed, particularly when it granted the opposition a short field, did it result in an ensuing score and a net negative?

    Feel free to skip the play-by-play breakdown and jump to concluding thoughts at the end of the post.


    Week 1 vs. Rams

    1-for-1

    ● Down 3-0 early in the second quarter, the Lions went for fourth-and-2 from the opponent's 27-yard line, converting with a 3-yard David Montgomery run. The team would eventually work inside the 10 before settling for a short Jake Bates field goal. Net points: 0


    Week 2 vs. Buccaneers

    3-for-5

    ● Down seven with 8:11 remaining in the second quarter, the Lions lined up to punt while facing a fourth-and-10 at their 20-yard line. Instead, they ran a fake as punter Jack Fox connected with running back Sione Vaki for a 17-yard gain and conversion.

    Later in the drive, the Lions would go for it on fourth down a second time with David Montgomery gaining 3 yards on the fourth-and-2 try near midfield. The efforts were for naught as the offense didn’t gain another yard, resulting in a Fox punt. Net points: 0

    ● Needing to go for it out of necessity, down four with under two minutes remaining, the Lions converted a fourth-and-1 from Tampa’s 36-yard line with a 23-yard Jahmyr Gibbs run. But four plays later, needing 8 yards from the 11, Gibbs was stopped 3 yards short of the marker on a pass from Jared Goff, resulting in a turnover on downs. Net points: -3

    ● The Lions got the ball back with 33 seconds remaining and worked to Tampa’s 26-yard line. But after a spike and two incompletions, they faced fourth-and-10 with six ticks on the clock. Looking for a hook-and-ladder, Goff skipped the initial throw to Tom Kennedy, ending the comeback attempt. Net points: -3


    Week 3 at Cardinals

    0-for-1

    ● Holding a 10-point advantage late in the third quarter, Detroit went for the throat instead of attempting a long field goal. But on the fourth-and-1 from the Arizona 34-yard line, Montgomery was stuffed for no gain.

    Despite having the range, it’s worth noting Bates hadn’t attempted a field goal longer than 35 yards at this stage of the season. Regardless, taking over on downs, the Cardinals couldn’t capitalize, going three-and-out. Net points: -3


    Week 4 vs. Seahawks

    0-for-0

    ● The Lions only had one compelling opportunity to go for it in the contest, passing up a try at fourth-and-3 while up eight early in the fourth quarter after Montgomery was stuffed for a loss of 2 yards on the previous snap.


    Week 5 — Bye

    Week 6 at Cowboys

    1-for-2

    ● Still in the early stages of the blowout, the Lions opted to go for it on fourth-and-2 from the Dallas 25-yard line with 6:45 remaining in the second quarter despite already holding a 14-point edge. Gibbs converted the try with a 2-yard run, but Goff would be sacked three snaps later, resulting in a longer field goal try. Bates still managed to connect from 48 yards out. Net points: 0

    ● Late in the fourth quarter, with the game well in hand, backup quarterback Hendon Hooker was sacked on a fourth-and-3 try in field-goal range. Any damage was mitigated when the Cowboys fumbled it back to the Lions on the ensuing possession. Net points: -3


    Week 7 at Vikings

    0-for-1

    ● The Lions dug themselves an early hole against their then-undefeated division foe, faking a punt with a direct snap to Jalen Reeves-Maybin on the game’s opening possession. That effort was snuffed out, and the Vikings translated the turnover on downs into a quick touchdown. Net points: -7


    Week 8 vs. Titans

    0-for-0

    ● Detroit punted on fourth-and-5 from their 35-yard line on the game’s opening possession before going on to blowout the Titans, 52-14.


    Week 9 at Packers

    2-for-2

    ● After drawing an encroachment flag on fourth-and-goal from the 5-yard line with the opening play of the second quarter, Goff connected with Amon-Ra St. Brown for a 3-yard touchdown. Net points: +4

    ● Early in the third frame of the rainy, late afternoon matchup, Detroit chose to go for it on fourth-and-1 from the Green Bay 15 instead of pushing their lead to 17 points with a short Bates field goal. The bet paid off with a 15-yard scoring run for Gibbs. Net points: +4


    Week 10 at Texans

    0-for-0

    ● The Lions didn’t have many logical opportunities to go for it on fourth down, but it’s a little surprising they didn’t try late in the third quarter. Down 10, with a fourth-and-5 at midfield, the team opted to punt after Montgomery gained just 2 yards on the ground the previous snap.


    Week 11 vs. Jaguars

    3-for-3

    ● Up four early in the second quarter, the Lions converted a fourth-and-1 from their 46-yard line with a quarterback sneak. Four snaps later, Gibbs was in the end zone. Net points: +7

    ● Now romping, up 29, the Lions kept the foot on the gas with a fourth-and-2 try from the Jacksonville 14-yard line with 5:05 remaining in the third quarter. Goff connected with receiver Tim Patrick for the 9-yard chain-mover, setting up a 5-yard scoring toss to tight end Brock Wright on the next snap. Net points: +4

    ● Coming out of the two-minute warning, Hooker, in for Goff, ran for 3 yards on a fourth-and-2 deep in Jacksonville territory, allowing the Lions to take a knee to end the game. Net points: -3


    Week 12 at Colts

    0-for-1

    ● Up 14-6, the Lions looked to make a statement with the first possession of the second half, going for it on fourth-and-1 from the Indianapolis 14-yard line. Instead, the handoff to Montgomery was stuffed for a loss, resulting in a turnover on downs. Net points: -3


    Week 13 vs. Bears

    1-for-1

    ● Holding a 13-0 lead late in the second quarter, the Lions initially skipped attempting a field goal from Chicago’s 32-yard line, leaving Montgomery to convert a fourth-and-1 with a 2-yard carry. But after failing to gain another yard with the fresh set of downs, Bates came on to knock home a 48-yard try. Net points: 0


    Week 14 vs. Packers

    4-for-5

    ● Much like the earlier meeting, the Lions skipped a field goal try for a shot at more points, going for it on fourth-and-goal from the 2-yard line with 14 seconds remaining in the first half. The plan worked with a touchdown pass from Goff to Gibbs. Net points: +4

    ● After the Packers grabbed the lead with 14 quick points after halftime, the Lions needed to respond. Goff converted a fourth-and-1 near midfield with a sneak and later capped the drive with a 3-yard touchdown pass to Patrick on fourth-and-goal. Net points: +7

    ● Forcing a punt on the Packers’ ensuing possession, the Lions looked to keep the pressure on with a fourth-and-1 try from their own 34, but Gibbs was stuffed on the handoff. With the premium field position after the turnover on downs, the Packers needed four plays to regain the lead. Net points: -7

    ● In one of the most thrilling moments of the season, the Lions went for it on fourth-and-1 despite being well within Bates’ range with less than a minute remaining. Goff stumbled taking the snap, but still got the ball to Montgomery for the converting handoff. That allowed the Lions to run the remaining clock before kicking the game-winner. Net points: 0


    Week 15 vs. Bills

    3-for-3

    ● Recognizing they were in for a track meet after the Bills scored touchdowns on each of their first three possessions, the Lions felt compelled to go for it on fourth-and-four from the Buffalo 46, netting a first down with a 21-yard completion to St. Brown. The drive would go on to finish in the end zone. Net points: +7

    ● The Lions wouldn’t go for it on fourth down again until the closing minutes of the contest, when they were desperately trying to rally. Goff converted a fourth-and-5 in his own territory with 1:35 remaining with a short throw to St. Brown. Then, on fourth-and-10 later in the drive, Goff hit St. Brown, who lateraled the ball to Gibbs for a 21-yard pick-up.

    It took four more snaps, but the Lions got across the goal line, briefly keeping hope afloat before the Bills recovered the ensuing onside kick. Net points: +7


    Week 16 at Bears

    0-for-1

    ● Eschewing a short field goal while holding a 17-point lead to open the fourth quarter, Goff’s pass to St. Brown on the fourth-and-3 fell incomplete. Net points: -3

    ● It’s worth mentioning that the Lions managed to draw the Bears into the neutral zone on fourth-and-1 at the Chicago 25 in the second quarter. That drive eventually resulted in a touchdown.


    Week 17 at 49ers

    2-for-3

    ● Down eight late in the first half, and the defense struggling, the Lions went for fourth-and-3 from the San Francisco 8-yard line. The decision didn't pay off as Goff’s end-zone look to LaPorta was behind the intended target and broken up by a 49ers defender. Net points: -3

    ● With the 49ers’ lead down to four late in the final minute of the third quarter, the Lions converted fourth-and-goal from the 4-yard line with a touchdown toss from Goff to St. Brown. Net points: +4

    ● The Lions managed to extend their narrow lead on the next possession after a 19-yard pass to LaPorta converted a fourth-and-3 and set up a 42-yard Bates field goal. Net points: +3


    Week 18 vs. Vikings

    2-for-4

    ● In a scoreless game late in the first quarter, the Lions thought better of attempting a 57-yard field goal and went for fourth-and-5 from the opposing 39-yard line. A 14-yard converting pass to Jameson Williams led directly into a 25-yard Gibbs touchdown run. Net points: +7

    ● The Lions were less fortunate when Goff’s play-action pass was tipped at the line of scrimmage on a fourth-and-1 try from Minnesota’s 42-yard line late in the second quarter. With the better-than-average starting field position, the Vikings translated the turnover on downs into a field goal. Net points: -3

    ● With 2:33 remaining in the third frame, and the Lions nursing a 10-9 lead, they went for it on fourth-and-2 from the 10-yard line. Goff found Gibbs out of the backfield for a scoring strike. Net points: +4

    ● With the result sealed, the Lions opted to run the ball with Craig Reynolds on fourth-and-6 from the Minnesota 28 with 33 seconds remaining instead of taking a pile-on field goal. Net points: -3

    ● Of note, the Lions netted a free first down with a neutral zone infraction against the Vikings on a fourth-and-2 early in the fourth quarter. Gibbs scored a touchdown on the next snap.


    Concluding thoughts

    ● Let’s start with a raw number: 18.

    That’s the points the Lions gained through their fourth-down tries this season. But that number should be distilled to remove end-of-game scenarios, where the situation dictates the decision.

    Obviously, the Lions weren’t taking field goals on the two drives at the end of the Week 2 loss to Tampa Bay. Nor should the team be penalized for trying to run out the clock vs. Dallas, Jacksonville, or Minnesota in the finale.


    On the flip side, there’s no bonus for going for it late against Buffalo, when the scoreboard demanded those attempts.

    Added up and removed from the raw total, we can more appropriately state the Lions gained 26 points from their situation-neutral fourth-down decisions. That marks a 4.8% increase in the team’s record-breaking scoring total.

    ● At first glance, the Lions gained an additional three first downs via pre-snap penalties on fourth down, scoring a pair of touchdowns with those chain-resetting infractions.

    They might have gone three-for-three had Gibbs not fumbled deep in the red zone in the closing minute of the first half against the Bears on Thanksgiving. Regardless, even the threat of going for it on fourth down, particularly fourth-and-short, can be a weapon for the Lions.

    ● Detroit was equally successful running and passing on fourth downs this season. On situational-neutral carries, excluding fake punts, they converted nine-of-12 tries. It also didn’t matter whether it was Montgomery or Gibbs taking the handoff.

    With pass plays, the Lions converted 11-of-16, or 12-of-17 if we add in Fox’s toss to Vaki.

    ● The only regrettable call, although I’m sure the team would be quick to blame the execution, was the botched fake punt against Minnesota. Not only did the play fail, but it’s the only turnover on downs that resulted in the opponent scoring a touchdown after taking possession.

    ● Detroit’s fourth-down aggression played a significant role in both victories against the Packers and the team’s Week 17 road win over the 49ers. Fourth-down choices did not negatively impact the team in their two losses this season.

    ● The Lions often went for fourth down to break a trailing opponent in the second half, but couldn’t get the desired results against the Cardinals, Colts or the Bears.



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    • #47
      The Athletic

      Lions enter postseason knowing it could be their last with this coaching staff


      Colton Pouncy
      Jan 9, 2025



      DETROIT — There’s an air of inevitability and uncertainty surrounding the Detroit Lions and their future. It’s hard to shake, particularly during weeks like this.

      One of the unintended consequences of winning — let alone turning around one of the league’s worst franchises in short order — is that everyone will want to know how you did it. Your methods will be studied and examined. Your success will be replicated. Your people will, eventually, get poached.



      The Lions are dealing with this right now. Their star coordinators — Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn — are two of the most coveted coaches in the league as teams search for their next leaders. This could be the year the stars align and the Lions lose both. Their boss believes they’re ready.

      “Their work speaks for itself,” Lions head coach Dan Campbell said of his coordinators. “It has nothing to do with me. Both of those guys, they’re smart, they’re grinders, they’re strategic, they understand how to teach, communicate, motivate and so their work speaks for itself. Both of those guys are more than worthy of being head coaches. They’re ready. They ask the right questions. I’ve tried to give them everything I think they need to be head coaches and I believe that both of those guys are more than ready.”



      Johnson has four interviews lined up this week — all virtual. He’ll talk to the Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars and New England Patriots. Glenn, meanwhile, is set to interview with the Bears, Raiders, Jaguars, New Orleans Saints and New York Jets.

      It was a matter of time before we reached this point. Both Johnson and Glenn have spent this season and seasons past hearing their names tied to certain jobs. With the Lions reaching unprecedented success in the regular season (a franchise-record 15 wins), it makes sense that teams would be lining up to interview their coordinators if they can’t have Campbell. Both have done a tremendous job leading their respective units.




      This season has been Glenn’s best work yet as Detroit’s defensive coordinator. In his first three seasons, Glenn’s defenses have ranked 31st, 28th and 23rd in points allowed. At one point, his defense had 17 players on injured reserve — including six starters and even more key reserves.

      And yet, his unit finished the regular season seventh in points allowed (20.1). He’s done a remarkable job keeping things afloat, trotting out the likes of Jamal Adams and Kwon Alexander with just days of preparation, just to help get them by. And unlike years past, Glenn did it all without sacrificing his preferred style of play — heavy man-coverage and a high blitz rate — due to talent deficiencies. He saved his best for last with a masterful gameplan to hold the Minnesota Vikings to just nine points, clinching a division title and the NFC’s No. 1 seed in the process.


      And yet, Glenn feels like a coach who will be even better in a lead role than as a coordinator. He’s a former Pro Bowl cornerback who knows what it’s like playing in this league and can speak from experience to the men in his locker room. He’s been an NFL scout and can see the game from that perspective. He played for Bill Parcels and Sean Payton and has connections all over the league, which could help him assemble a strong coaching staff. He’s cut from the same cloth as Campbell in terms of his values and ability to command a room. He believes that you have to be wired a certain way to play for him, which, in many ways, has been Detroit’s secret sauce.


      Glenn wants a job. The people who know him best believe it’s only a matter of time.

      “Aaron Glenn is — he’s as good a coach as you’re going to find, he’s an even better human being,” Campbell said of Glenn this week. “Look, if nobody wants him, I’ll take him again. I can tell you that right now. The thought of going through another cycle and he’s not somebody’s head coach is ridiculous. I mean, this guy is as good as they come and he can do it all. He understands how to manage a game, he understands offense, defense, special teams, he knows how to communicate, he understands discipline of players and he’s motivating, he’s inspiring. …I don’t want to lose him, but I also root for the guy because I just think he’s a hell of a coach.”



      “I can’t believe he’s not already a head coach,” Lions senior defensive assistant Jim O’Neil said last month. “He’s one of the best leaders of men I’ve been around. His relationships with the players and how they respond to him, just how organized he is, how he can think like a player and a coach.

      “For me, because I knew him his first couple years in coaching, and then to see where he’s at now and how his understanding of the offense, of special situations, of the D-Line and the run game, how to attack protections, obviously he knows all the coverage stuff, how he can coach technique and still get in front of a microphone or get in front of guys and motivate them — I just, there’s no doubt, it’s a no-brainer he’s going to be successful when he gets that opportunity.”



      In the NFL, you’ll often see two types of head coaches — the leader of men and the offensive guru. If Glenn is the former, Johnson is the latter.


      Johnson is what many teams, particularly those with talented young quarterbacks, are looking for. He fits the mold of the next great play-calling head coach, but his trajectory wouldn’t suggest it. He doesn’t hail from the Kyle Shanahan tree. He’s not going to land a job because he’s friends with Sean McVay. A former quarterback and math major at North Carolina, Johnson climbed the ladder from the college ranks to the NFL. He was the assistant quarterbacks coach with the Miami Dolphins when Campbell was the Dolphins’ tight ends coach, and later, interim head coach. Johnson would stay in Miami under Adam Gase when Campbell wasn’t retained, before finding himself out of a job when Brian Flores took over in 2018.

      He contemplated whether or not this coaching thing was for him. It took him nine months to find a job, before accepting an offensive quality control gig with the Lions under Matt Patricia, making a $40,000 salary. When Patricia was fired and Campbell was hired, one of his first moves was retaining Johnson — his old friend from Miami. It was Johnson whom Campbell tabbed to help run his offense in the latter half of 2021 and beyond, after his first OC, Anthony Lynn, was fired. Detroit’s offense hasn’t ranked outside of the top-5 since.



      Many have tried and failed to convince him to run their franchise. But you see, Johnson is a bit of an old soul. Most coaches would jump at the first opportunity afforded to them. Johnson values the one he has.

      He loves working for Campbell — a coach who allows him to be himself. He told reporters in May that his decision to return to Detroit for another season was made on the flight home from the Lions’ NFC Championship loss to the 49ers, around this time a year ago. The plane was traveling back to Detroit after the team’s best season in decades. Shortly upon arrival, Johnson was set to meet with executives from the Washington Commanders. It was a job that likely would’ve been his if he wanted it. In that moment, however, Johnson couldn’t help but think back to the beginning.



      “Right after the championship game, we got on the plane, and I was just thinking about something that coach had said,” Johnson recalled. “He had made this analogy to the team, just about how we were sailing down the ocean and at that moment, we were in the Arctic. We were hitting the icebergs, we had the storms going on, those were dark days. He had the foresight, he had the vision of where we were going and where we were heading. He assured us, ‘Guys, I see it. I see where we are going. The results haven’t been there yet, but the Caribbean is on the horizon. It’s coming up.’

      “I’m sitting on the plane, I’m thinking back to that. Just the story of my career has been living in that Arctic for a lot of it. That was the second time I had been to the playoffs, the first time I had experienced winning games in the playoffs. I think when it boils down to it, I wanted the sunshine a little bit longer. That’s really what it comes down to for me. I liked the sunshine.”



      Johnson stayed, when many thought he’d leave. This year, his third as Lions’ OC, his offense led the league in points per game. It scored 30 or more points 10 times this season, 40 or more six times and 50 or more twice. He runs a little bit of everything, out of multiple looks, with some of the best weapons in the league. He finds his players’ strengths and puts them in positions to succeed. He works with quarterback Jared Goff to provide the offense with answers to the test. He’s a lone wolf when it comes to offensive systems. A rarity in a copycat league.



      This year, Johnson said he feels more prepared for what’s ahead, having stayed in Detroit. He said he has an obligation to the people in the building to be where his feet are, and doesn’t want to let his mind wander too much beyond the here and now.

      But those aspirations to lead his own team still exist.


      “I think there’s a burning desire in every man to find what he’s made out of, push the limits and see if he’s got what it takes,” Johnson said. “So, yeah, there’s a fire there. Now, when that time is, I don’t know when that’ll be, but there’s certainly a fire there.”

      Who knows what the 2025 Detroit Lions ultimately look like? Perhaps both coordinators depart and begin their head coaching careers elsewhere, leaving Campbell to hire their replacements. Maybe both Glenn and Johnson are back, and we’re writing a similar story next year.



      No matter what happens after this season, Glenn, Johnson, special teams coordinator Dave Fipp and Campbell are still here, together, trying to win a Super Bowl for the franchise that employs them. Doing so in this city, with this team, with the original crew that kicked this thing in motion would be a truly special accomplishment. It’s rare to see a staff remain intact as long as Detroit’s has. It’s even rarer to find one as close as this one is.

      Until then, everything else can wait.



      “This is a special team and it’s a special staff, and it’s been that way since that beginning,” Campbell said, when asked if he savors this season in particular. “It really has been. And so, yeah, I absolutely do. I’m fortunate. I’m blessed. I’m thankful that I have the coordinators, counting Fipp as well, all three of those guys are superstars. And I know – hey, when it’s over, it’s over.

      “But we’re going to make the most of it until that time comes.”




      Colton Pouncy is a staff writer for The Athletic covering the Detroit Lions. He previously covered Michigan State football and basketball for the company, and covered sports for The Tennessean in Nashville prior to joining The Athletic. Follow Colton on Twitter @colton_pouncy
      "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
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      • #48
        "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
        My friend Ken L

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        • #49
          "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
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          • #50
            I think losing AG and Townsend would equal 3rd round compensatory picks for three years.
            Where are we going; and what's up with this hand basket?

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            • #51
              It's going to be weird to see a Lions coaching tree. If we win it all I'll definitely be rooting for our coordinators out there, provided their success doesn't conflict with the Lions and of course provided that Ben doesn't go to Chicago.
              "Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
              Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.​

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              • #52
                It used to be that this placed killed coaching careers for the most part.

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                • #53
                  I think Glenn is going to be an amazing head coach. He has the sort of fire and ability to inspire people that Campbell does.

                  I'm less convinced about Johnson. He seems like more of an X's and O's guy rather than the sort of personality that gets people ready for war.

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                  • #54
                    Ben Johnston reminds me of a nerdy guy that sits in his room concocting amazing plays and giggling.He’s a brilliant inventive mind.
                    I’d love to know how much the OC and DC make in Detroit.
                    Johnson needs to be top three Of all the coordinators and I think you’ll be happy and just stay.
                    Glenn needs to leave while he’s a hot commodity.

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                    • #55
                      I'll say the same thing I said when they hired Campbell about hiring coaches

                      1. Nobody knows anything
                      2. You are as likely to make a good hire from a guy who isn't high on anyone's list as the guy who is the hot name

                      I have only been confident positively about two NFL head coaching hires since I've been following it. That was Tony Dungy and Marvin Lewis, but that was because they were really good candidates and it took them a long time to get hired. So many teams kept on failing to hire Dungy for retreads that it forced the Rooney rule. The Rooney rule was the reason why Marvin Lewis was hired, the Bengals interviewed him and he blew them away. He was about ready to take the MSU job when the Bengals hired him

                      Predicting doom for some hires is much easier. I was confident Coach Marty, Marinelli and Patricia were likely to be bad. Especially the first two.

                      When the Lions hired Holmes and Campbell they did a smart thing as they did a pretty exhaustive search. Most NFL hires the teams identify who they want to hire before they start the interviews. It's ready, fire aim.

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                      • #56
                        A Lions-themed drone show will light up the Windsor riverfront and be seen from Detroit on Friday, celebrating Canadian fans and the NFL playoffs.



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                              • #60


                                The outcome was meaningless for the teams on the field, but the 49ers-Lions game cost one sportsbook dearly on Monday night in Week 17.






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