GBU: Fried Seachicken Tastes Good

[Cody_Russell]

Has anybody ever seen a team up seven for.for.the 2 point conversion? It seems like making a the difference between a 2 score game and an 8 point game is huge.

A team with a 7 point leading scoring a TD and going for 2 to make it a 15 point game? I can’t recall ever seeing that strategy. Unless there was bad weather that came into play later in the game where kicking a FG/ PAT would be impossible.

My favorite concept is when the Oregon Ducks would go for 2 after scoring their first TD of the game to be up 8-0 for no reason. Fun college football tradition.

[froot loops]

No the question I'm asking is if you score the TD and it gives you a 7 point lead, has anyone ever seen a team try the two point conversion to make it a 9 point lead?

[chemiclord]

No the question I'm asking is if you score the TD and it gives you a 7 point lead, has anyone ever seen a team try the two point conversion to make it a 9 point lead?

I can't think of it, but at the same time, that's probably not a terribly common scenario in the 4th.

[Iron Lion]

I didn’t get Seattle’s decision to go for 2 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd? Was it just to get within 2 FGs? Seemed early to me

2 words:

Anal ytics

[DanO]

2 words:

Anal ytics

I didn't understand that either. I figured they thought they had two chances to make "2". If they make the first one an extra point wins it if they score another TD Extra points aren't automatic so kicking an extra point isn't guaranteed..

[Cody_Russell]

No the question I'm asking is if you score the TD and it gives you a 7 point lead, has anyone ever seen a team try the two point conversion to make it a 9 point lead?

Ah, gotcha.

Perhaps makes sense if onside kicks are going to be impossible in the NFL. 9 point lead could be game ending depending on how late it is.

[edindetroit]

No the question I'm asking is if you score the TD and it gives you a 7 point lead, has anyone ever seen a team try the two point conversion to make it a 9 point lead?

If kicking the extra point gives you a 7 point lead going for 2 is going to give you an 8 point lead not 9.

[Mainevent]

Guys, this isn't rocket surgery. If you score a TD (which is 6 pts) and that puts you up 7 (hence you were already up 1 point), the question is if there are any instances of a coach going for the 2-pt conversion to make it a 9-pt lead and a 2 score advantage. That's what Froot is asking.

[chemiclord]

No, I got the scenario. I just have no idea how many coaches would even consider it because the sample size for that particular scenario is likely pretty small.

[CGVT]

No, I got the scenario. I just have no idea how many coaches would even consider it because the sample size for that particular scenario is likely pretty small.

I'm sure some number crunching nerd has done the math and added it to the Denny's menu that guides these decisions.

[froot loops]

Keep an eye out for it, I've noticed it before but have never seen anyone do it. DWT brought this up before and I've not noticed any team ever doing it

[Mainevent]

Most coaches, even the most analytically inclined, are risk averse in those end of game situations. Going up 8 ensures you won't get beat - and if you end up losing in overtime, well then the blame gets spread around. You miss that two point try and get beat by one, no one but you is hearing that after the game.

Though that same risk aversion would probably lead to most opposing coaches kicking an XP to tie it up rather than go for the win with a 2 pointer. . Though that is starting to slowly shift.

[ghandi]

It probably depends on which team the Lions are playing...Some teams you dont want to take the risk of going to OT with as you might not ever see the ball again.....I'd imagine there are teams that may go for 2 for the win against the Lions just for that reason alone.

[Iron Lion]

I didn't understand that either. I figured they thought they had two chances to make "2". If they make the first one an extra point wins it if they score another TD Extra points aren't automatic so kicking an extra point isn't guaranteed..

Comes down to probability analysis of getting the 2-pointer.

But even if you dont want to get anal here, there's a purely football aspect to it. You're moving the ball at will against the Lions D. And also, it's not only MNF on the road and thus a short week, but also 3 games in 11 days. Probably really really not wanting OT.

[NewOrleansLion]

Yes, he forced the Metcalf fumble, but Jack Campbell has being a huge disappointment so far. Dude just doesn’t flash at all. I remember the first game against the Chiefs last year, he had an incredible PBU. Has he had one since?