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  • #61
    At the end of the day, the same people who are so shocked and appalled by Tucker's actions, are the same people who knew about this in July and decided to hope it would all go away during the investigation, and are going to be the same people choosing his replacement.

    I am not particularly hopeful.

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    • #62
      I laughed at the Tucker hire. I thought it was one of the worst choices MSU could make. Then he beat Michigan 2 years in a row and went 11-2 that second season.

      It’s going to be a really tough road ahead unless they get some amazing NIL program going.
      F#*K OHIO!!!

      You're not only an amazingly beautiful man, but you're the greatest football mind to ever exist. <-- Jeffy Shittypants actually posted this. I knew he was in love with me.

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      • #63
        The pieces are there if you make a good hire. They have a lot of money, they have some good donors, beautiful famous and a brand new practice facility. But with MSU, the coaches may change but the board of trustees remains the same.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by froot loops View Post
          What I never understood about Tucker was his hiring came off a chaotic chain of events that put him behind the 8 ball assembling a staff. He put together a staff that look OK on paper but didn't have many connections to him. Yet when it was obvious changes needed to be made he never made any significant changes. He had one good recruiting class and that one fell apart after it. The year they won the Peach Bowl, they showed real competence in finding portal players but success there hasn't continued. When you get the big bucks you are expected to actually work hard.I thought it was telling that apparently Tucker instituted a bus ride to Sparty to start the Spartan Stadium walk instead of just walking from the Kellogg Center. That's symbolic of trying to take shortcuts.

          No faith in this forever clown show administration running things up there to get this hire right.
          The pass defense has been awful every single year. His inability to make any improvement is damning. Same goes for offensive line play - can’t recruit the position and can’t “coach ‘em up”.

          Tucker struck me as the kind of coach who never put his players in the best position to succeed. It was the bull-headed approach of, “We just need to execute better.”

          The timing of Dantonio’s retirement made that hire so difficult. No excuses this time.

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          • #65
            In hindsight they should have let Dantonio have the retention bonus before the date as a going away present.

            As for offensive line play, it's been a joke for nearly as long as I've been a fan. If it wasn't for the Allen family and a Michigan legacy (Jack Conklin) falling into their lap, I would have never seen a good offensive line. It's ridiculous that we have a huge school with a football team priding itself on toughness and it routinely runs out MAC level offensive lines. CMU has produced better offensive NFL lineman than MSU even since the Dantonio era.

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            • #66
              It’s crazy how many good players have been through CMU over the years.
              F#*K OHIO!!!

              You're not only an amazingly beautiful man, but you're the greatest football mind to ever exist. <-- Jeffy Shittypants actually posted this. I knew he was in love with me.

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              • #67
                Yeah and the team has not been good. But they played much better against Notre Dame Saturday than the Spartans.

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                • #68
                  A friend of mine who's big Sparty alum slappy and follows everything obsessively said there are rumblings of more Tuck dirt coming out. I'm not going to get into the specific stuff he listed out, but if true it's not going to be good for Tuck (or the university, really).

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                  • #69
                    Yeah I'm dreading it, I don't know any details, but there is enough rumblings to know it's not good.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mainevent View Post
                      A friend of mine who's big Sparty alum slappy and follows everything obsessively said there are rumblings of more Tuck dirt coming out. I'm not going to get into the specific stuff he listed out, but if true it's not going to be good for Tuck (or the university, really).
                      True.

                      My wife plays pickleball with Dantonio's wife. She says there is a lot more dirt.

                      You would think that for $ 80 million a guy could keep his pecker in his pants.

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                      • #71
                        Another example of bad coaching - Cal Haladay looked so impressive as a freshman. He hasn’t improved at all, and might have regressed since. I put that squarely on the shoulders of the coaches. He showed he has skill. They couldn’t get him to the next level.

                        There are examples of that all over the roster. Oh well. Go Green. Let’s avoid embarrassment with a vim.

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                        • #72
                          I'm just telling myself Maryland is just that good.

                          Right?

                          RIGHT?

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                          • #73
                            I probably bend over backwards to defend quarterbacks, but I just can't with Noah Kim

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                              I probably bend over backwards to defend quarterbacks, but I just can't with Noah Kim
                              Same. The two good throws don’t erase the three that look like he threw them left handed.

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                              • #75
                                I can’t remember a more wide open college football season. No team is clearly better than the others, like Georgia has been.

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