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  • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
    My friend Ken L

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    • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
      My friend Ken L

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      • Originally posted by whatever_gong82 View Post
        "I ain't the type to bitch, I ain't the type to cry, I will sit at your red light and wait for your shit to go by."

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        • Originally posted by whatever_gong82 View Post
          Dude barely has a grasp of the English language and is now gonna go to Deutschland. Ok, glück auf!
          "Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
          Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.​

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          • Sucks to lose Meinke, he’s been a solid beat writer and he and Ben Raven are a good hang on the DoD pod. Sounds like he’s been through some shit this last year.

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            • "Your division isn't going through Green Bay it's going through Detroit for the next five years" - Rex Ryan

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              • Originally posted by Iron Lion View Post

                Dude barely has a grasp of the English language and is now gonna go to Deutschland. Ok, glück auf!
                You seem hinged.

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                • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                  My friend Ken L

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                  • The Za’Darius Smith trade. Yay, finally!
                    Smith, Paschal, and Commish to the rescue for the Super Bowl push.

                    Wish the best for Meinke.
                    I have learned a little German and Italian over my adulthood. Would say that German is a MUCH easier language to learn than Italian. It’s not bad at all.
                    AAL 2023 - Alim McNeill

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                    • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                      My friend Ken L

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                      • Originally posted by Cody_Russell View Post
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                        Wish the best for Meinke.
                        I have learned a little German and Italian over my adulthood. Would say that German is a MUCH easier language to learn than Italian. It’s not bad at all.
                        I took German in high school so I could speak it with my grandmother. I was just getting conversant when she died and I lost interest. I wish I had kept up with it.

                        "Your division isn't going through Green Bay it's going through Detroit for the next five years" - Rex Ryan

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                        • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                          My friend Ken L

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                          • Almost everything has changed for both teams since Texans sealed fate of last Lions regime in 2020


                            Justin Rogers
                            Nov 6



                            Allen Park — Like the Tennessee Titans a couple of weeks back, it’s been four years since the Detroit Lions have squared off against the Houston Texans. In a way, the Lions owe this week’s opponent a Texas-sized thank-you card.



                            That 41-26 loss on Thanksgiving in 2020 is notable because it accelerated the inevitable. Two days after the defeat, the Lions fired general manager Bob Quinn and coach Matt Patricia. Then, a little more than two weeks later, the team hired franchise legend Chris Spielman to serve as a special assistant to ownership in the search for new leadership.

                            That sequence has led us to present day, where general manager Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell have built one of the deepest, most talented, and toughest rosters in the NFL — a 7-1 squad that holds pole position in the NFC and is the favorite to represent the conference in this year’s Super Bowl.



                            Beyond what transpired in the days following, the 2020 matchup will bear minimal resemblance to this one. These Texans certainly don’t look anything like those Texans. They’ve undergone a similarly significant overhaul in the years since that holiday trip to Ford Field. They hired a new GM in 2021, a new coach in 2023, and the starting lineup has been almost completely overhauled outside offensive tackles Laremy Tunsil and Tytus Howard and safety Eric Murray.

                            General manager Nick Caserio — comically a branch off the same Patriots tree that withered in Detroit — has had much more success reshaping the Texans, in large part due to his decision to hire former San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans as coach in 2023.



                            After three consecutive seasons of four or fewer wins, the Texans experienced an instant turnaround last season, winning the AFC South. They went on to smash the Cleveland Browns in the Wild Card round, before getting bounced by the Ravens the second weekend of the postseason.

                            From the cultural overhaul under Ryans to the franchise's ability to draft and develop, Lions fans could reasonably feel as if they’re looking at the AFC version of their team.



                            Heck, quarterback C.J. Stroud, the 2023 Rookie of the Year the Texans selected with the No. 2 pick a year ago, drew comparisons to Lions counterpart Jared Goff ahead of the 2023 draft.

                            Not resting on the laurels of their 10-win season, the Texans were aggressive in their pursuit of upgrades this past offseason.



                            Defensively, they overhauled the interior of the team’s defensive line, but the biggest change came at edge rusher, where they swapped out up-and-comer Jonathan Greenard for four-time Pro Bowler Danielle Hunter.

                            Offensively, the Texans leaned on the trade market to improve the Stroud's arsenal, picking up wide receiver Stefon Diggs from Buffalo for a second-rounder and sending a seventh-round choice to Cincinnati for running back Joe Mixon.


                            Both additions proved to be fast fits. Mixon is averaging a career-high 101.5 rushing yards per game and has scored seven times in six starts, while Diggs had 47 catches for 496 yards and three touchdowns in the team’s first eight games. Unfortunately, he suffered a season-ending knee injury last week.

                            The Texans have been further hindered by the absence of star receiver Nico Collins, who racked up a league-best 567 yards through the first five games before he was sidelined by a hamstring strain. He’s eligible to return to action this week and there’s early optimism he’ll be activated for the primetime matchup against the Lions.


                            That would be a huge boost to an offense that’s averaging just 22.3 points per game.

                            The Texans defense — led by former Lions linebacker coach Matt Burke — has been stingy with Hunter and 2023 first-round pick Will Anderson leading a ferocious pass rush that ranks top-five in pressure rate and sacks. Overall, the team is allowing the second-fewest yards per game and is 10th in takeaways.


                            Email: jrogers@detroitfootball.net

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                            "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                            My friend Ken L

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                            • What the Lions are getting in Za’Darius Smith and how their pass rush looks with him in it


                              By Colton Pouncy
                              6h ago



                              For the last few weeks, with the trade deadline drawing nearer and nearer, Lions general manager Brad Holmes had been working the phones in search of help for the roster he constructed, and a pass-rusher to account for the loss of Aidan Hutchinson.

                              There were inquiries aplenty. Calls were made. Compensation discussed. But in the end, the Lions landed the top edge rusher available — Cleveland’s Za’Darius Smith.


                              “Look man, it’s good to get him here,” Lions head coach Dan Campbell said of Smith to Fox 2 Detroit on Tuesday. “He brings an element of toughness. Smart football player. Can set an edge. Can get an edge in rush, close the pocket down. He’s just a really good complementary piece that I think is gonna work well with our guys.”





                              In Smith, the Lions are getting a veteran edge rusher who widens the margin of error for a defense that’s lost some key pieces. It’s a long season, and with Detroit already without Hutchinson, Marcus Davenport, John Cominsky, Derrick Barnes, and others, a move for depth and a talent upgrade seemed all too necessary. Smith isn’t a 1-to-1 replacement for Hutchinson — few players are — but this was one of the better moves to be made this deadline.

                              Here’s what the Lions are getting in Smith, and how their pass-rush picture looks with him in the fold.



                              How the Lions have performed without Aidan Hutchinson


                              The Lions couldn’t afford to stand pat at the deadline. Not with a team this talented. The Lions own the NFC’s best record through nine weeks. They are 7-1 for the first time since 1956, having won six games in a row. They have the highest point differential in the league, the No. 1 scoring offense and the No. 5 scoring defense. But the Lions had a glaring need without Hutchinson, and the production from Detroit edge rushers in his absence left much to be desired.


                              * Josh Paschal has two pressures since Hutchinson went down, both against the Vikings. One was on an unblocked sack. Diagnosed with malignant melanoma on his left foot in college, Paschal has since recovered but has regular follow-ups with his doctors. Following a recent check-in, Paschal underwent a treatment that forced him to miss the last two games. Campbell expects him back this week.


                              * Defensive tackle Levi Onwuzurike has played a lot more defensive end out of necessity. Ideally, you like him as an interior rusher, but he’s taken on the challenge and given the Lions all he’s got. He had five pressures vs. the Titans, but just one against the Packers.

                              * The Lions signed Al-Quadin Muhammad following a tryout with the team last month. After an impressive debut vs. the Titans (six pressures) Muhammad recorded just one pressure vs. the Packers.

                              * Isaiah Thomas was signed off the Browns’ practice squad, but has just one pressure in two games played.

                              * James Houston, once a pass-rush specialist with eight sacks in seven games as a rookie, has taken a step back. He has seven pressures in the last three games but is susceptible to the run when he’s on the field and can’t be an every-down player.


                              In a crucial game vs. Green Bay, Lions edge rushers combined for six of Detroit’s 18 pressures. Defensive tackle Alim McNeill had seven of those 18 pressures. Excluding Onwuzurike, Detroit’s main edge rushers (Paschal, Houston, Thomas and Muhammad) have a combined 17 pressures from Weeks 7-9 combined. In his last full game, Hutchinson had 15 pressures by himself.


                              It put a spotlight on Detroit’s need for an edge rusher, and explains why they went and got arguably the top one on the market.


                              Why Za’Darius Smith made sense


                              Smith was a fit on a number of levels. First things first: he was available. It takes two to tango. For all the talk (or, borderline obsession) regarding Maxx Crosby, Myles Garrett or even Trey Hendrickson, those teams had to show a willingness to play ball. They never did. It was always — always — a long shot to see one of those pass-rushers moved by the deadline.


                              In terms of realistic options, Smith was arguably the top pass-rusher available and the strongest fit for the Lions. Holmes is not one to mortgage the future. He builds through the draft and doesn’t believe in windows. He has always operated as such, which is why a move to acquire help without giving away valuable assets always made the most sense.

                              “I think when you start getting into that, ‘We’ve got this window, we’ve got this, so we’ve got to pivot,’ that’s when I think you kind of get into a little bit of trouble,” Holmes said earlier this year.


                              The fact the Lions were able to get Smith for essentially a fifth-rounder is good business. The Lions didn’t budge and give up their 2025 fourth-round pick. They instead sent Cleveland a 2025 fifth-rounder and a 2026 sixth-rounder (which could be toward the end of the sixth round) for Smith and a 2026 seventh-rounder from Cleveland (which could be near the top of the seventh round). Essentially, the Lions got Smith for a fifth-rounder and what could amount to a slight trade back from the late sixth to the early seventh round.

                              Additionally, the Lions will take on the remainder of Smith’s contract for the 2024 season, which comes out to $605,000. A small price to pay for a chance to keep a top-5 defense humming. Detroit got better without sacrificing its future.



                              How Smith fits in along Detroit’s defensive line


                              Smith himself couldn’t help but see the vision last month when asked about Hutchinson’s injury and the possibility of a trade to Detroit.

                              “Hate that injury happened to him, a guy that was on his way to get Defensive Player of the Year possibly,” Smith told the Chronicle-Telegram. “That’s a big loss for them. But if I was to go to Detroit, I would like it because I get to play Green Bay twice a year and the Vikings twice a year. So, yeah, that’ll be big.”


                              Sounds like a guy who wanted to play for the Lions all along.

                              Smith has been productive everywhere he’s been — Baltimore, Green Bay, Minnesota and Cleveland — and the Lions are hoping that remains the case in Detroit. He’s been remarkably consistent and age hasn’t slowed him down. A year ago, Smith totaled 5.5 sacks, 60 pressures and a win rate of 18.5 percent. This year, his age 32 season, Smith is projected for 10 sacks, 54 pressures and owns a win rate of 19.1 percent.






                              Granted, a lot of players would benefit from playing with Garrett, which Smith did in Cleveland for 1.5 seasons. However, Smith has a track record that precedes his time with Garrett, and his game is scheme-versatile. You can line him up wide as a stand-up edge, put his hand in the dirt, have him win with effort, have him rush from the interior or work off stunts with defensive tackles — a testament to that versatility.

                              Speaking of defensive tackles, in Detroit, Smith will line up next to two of the better ones in the league. DJ Reader is a space-eating nose tackle whose impact rarely shows in the box score. He takes on double teams and does a lot of the dirty work in the interior. McNeill, meanwhile, is one of the best young defensive tackles in the NFL. He ranks 10th among defensive tackles in pressures with 27 and fifth in win rate at 14.7 percent (min. 60 pass-rush snaps). Then you have Onwuzurike’s 23 pressures as an inside-out player, and defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn’s affinity for sending his defensive backs and linebackers on blitzes. It should be more than enough to keep Smith producing.






                              Smith immediately becomes Detroit’s best edge rusher. He’s not perfect in the run game, but he is capable. He’ll go from playing for a last-place team to arguably the NFL’s best. The Lions should be getting a motivated Smith, who returns to the NFC North to help the Lions fend off two of his former teams — the Packers and Vikings. If the Lions can maintain the NFC’s No. 1 seed, they’d need to win only two games — both in Detroit — to reach the Super Bowl. If they get there, Hutchinson could join them. The Lions aren’t ruling out a return for their star edge rusher, who still ranks third in pressures despite not playing the last three weeks. If he’s able to go, he’d be joined by Smith on the other end. Fairytale ending, anyone?


                              Even if the dream scenario doesn’t materialize, the Lions have the option of bringing Smith back to play with Hutchinson next season. He has a non-guaranteed contract the Lions could keep on the books for 2025 if they like the fit.

                              Ultimately, this was a low-risk, high-reward move for a Lions team that has all the goods to make a Super Bowl run. We’ll see if Smith can help get them there.



                              Colton Pouncy is a staff writer for The Athletic covering the Detroit Lions. He previously covered Michigan State football and basketball for the company, and covered sports for The Tennessean in Nashville prior to joining The Athletic. Follow Colton on Twitter @colton_pouncy






                              "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                              My friend Ken L

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                              • Nice to see Justin Rogers give Chris Spielman his due.
                                He was the architect and instrumental in being Campbell in.
                                I still hate myself for taking the Spielman jersey to goodwill .

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