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Originally posted by CGVT View PostWere you an editor in a previous life? Ha!"Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.
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Draft Kings point spreads for 2024 season are out:
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2024/5/17/24158850/2024-nfl-game-odds-detroit-lions-favorite-scheduleVegas odds for the entire Detroit Lions 2024 schedule are out, and they’re favored in nearly every single game.
Lions favored in 13 games, but generally not by much. The over-under on wins for the season is 10.5.
It's a 1st-place schedule, so it's tough. I remember when the Lions had decent teams, they would have a good season against a weaker schedule and then follow it up with a bad season against the good schedule and repeat the process.
The encouraging thing about this team is that they had a 2nd place schedule this past season and still improved.
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Originally posted by El Axe View PostDraft Kings point spreads for 2024 season are out:
https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2024/5/17/24158850/2024-nfl-game-odds-detroit-lions-favorite-scheduleVegas odds for the entire Detroit Lions 2024 schedule are out, and they’re favored in nearly every single game.
Lions favored in 13 games, but generally not by much. The over-under on wins for the season is 10.5.
It's a 1st-place schedule, so it's tough. I remember when the Lions had decent teams, they would have a good season against a weaker schedule and then follow it up with a bad season against the good schedule and repeat the process.
The encouraging thing about this team is that they had a 2nd place schedule this past season and still improved.
I think with Sheila Ford Hamp, along with Chris Spielman, and the Brad Holmes/Ray Agnew/John Dorsey management team, that the Detroit Lions will at least be in the conversation for best team in the NFL in the years to come. Oh, there will a year here and there in which they'll slip off a bit, but they'll eventually recover and become a serious threat to win a Super Bowl.
I'm actually shocked that I can type the words above and not think that I'm drinking or insane."I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
My friend Ken L
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While the Patriots were run well, they had the fortune of playing in a division that didn’t have any decent QB play. I can’t think of a decent QB Brady had to outduel during his time in New England.
The Lions will have much tougher competition.
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Originally posted by Tom View PostWhile the Patriots were run well, they had the fortune of playing in a division that didn’t have any decent QB play. I can’t think of a decent QB Brady had to outduel during his time in New England.
The Lions will have much tougher competition."I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
My friend Ken L
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Most everything is cyclical in sports, eventually teams catch up to what you are doing and the margin for error gets smaller the longer you are picking in the back half of the rounds. The ride up is the fun time, staying there is hard. I'd like to think Brad Holmes is always going to draft well, but I believe firmly the in the long run drafting success regresses to the mean.
Do not be fooled by randomness.
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Originally posted by Mainevent View PostWhich is why I’m not a fan of the way he’s packed multiple picks for these mid-round swings. He’s a good drafter, I want him to have more picks.
I'm hoping that using some of next year's picks was strategic -- that he's looked at the current arc of the team and figured that using an extra pick this year was more valuable than having one next year. I do know that Holmes was quoted as saying that they're only down one 3rd round pick next season and have an extra 7th, so he didn't feel he overcommitted.
Here's what they have in 2025
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We all have our flaws. I agreed with trading up to get Arnold. Probably less so with the other guys. It all depends on their ability to develop projects. Overall I really liked their draft even if my default is not to trade up. I know a lot of people who followed the draft really like Vaki, I have no opinion on the guy but it's sounds promising. I'm probably less critical of trading up because for once the team doesn't have many needs. More later round picks sounds great in theory, but it's hard to find a place on the roster for some of these picks.
It wasn't the point I was getting at though. In the long run I think drafting regresses to the mean. That's looking more at the long term than one single draft. People have brought up the Patriots, they were the opposite of trading up, they were forever trading back or at minimum letting the picks come to them and they ran out of luck.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostWe all have our flaws. I agreed with trading up to get Arnold. Probably less so with the other guys. It all depends on their ability to develop projects. Overall I really liked their draft even if my default is not to trade up. I know a lot of people who followed the draft really like Vaki, I have no opinion on the guy but it's sounds promising. I'm probably less critical of trading up because for once the team doesn't have many needs. More later round picks sounds great in theory, but it's hard to find a place on the roster for some of these picks.
It wasn't the point I was getting at though. In the long run I think drafting regresses to the mean. That's looking more at the long term than one single draft. People have brought up the Patriots, they were the opposite of trading up, they were forever trading back or at minimum letting the picks come to them and they ran out of luck.
I tend to wonder if someone like Brad Holmes, Ray Agnew or even John Dorsey would've thrived in New England during the Belichick/Brady heyday."I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
My friend Ken L
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