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[jaadam4]

If the 9ers wanted to move on from Trey Lance, would you guys want the Lions to trade for him?

[dpatnod]

Trade for what? A snapple and bag of chips?

Or Goff and 5 first rounders?

[jaadam4]

Trade for what? A snapple and bag of chips?

Or Goff and 5 first rounders?

Lance is expendable in San Fran if Brock Purdey plays like he did last year. The longer he sits on the bench the less valuable he becomes for them. He's not sitting behind a vet he's sitting behind a 2nd year player thats better than him and he didn't have the best showing when he was playing.

He's not worth a first IMO but for the right team a 2nd and 3rd might be on the table.

[JGSpartan]

So why would you want him if they don't see value in him? Especially with Purdy coming off of Elbow surgery. You'd think they would want him. If they don't, I don't either.

[jaadam4]

Truthfully I didnt like Lance coming out of college to begin with. I didn't see much in him besides his measurables. Just trying to spark debate and keep conversation going besides continuing to argue about the same shit until the draft.

[Topweasel]

Lance is expendable in San Fran if Brock Purdey plays like he did last year. The longer he sits on the bench the less valuable he becomes for them. He's not sitting behind a vet he's sitting behind a 2nd year player thats better than him and he didn't have the best showing when he was playing.

He's not worth a first IMO but for the right team a 2nd and 3rd might be on the table.

Purdy is a bit of a weird one. While he may have played a bit more open then Jimmy, they have been trying to move one from Jimmy G for a long time. They want someone transformative, someone that even though the rest of the team is built so well they could win with Jimmy (and realistically they could have one the big one with him) they wanted a QB that could put the team on his shoulders. That probably isn't Lance, but it probably is even less likely Purdy. So while I can think of 10 teams that would be happy to sign Purdy after what they saw last year, I just don't see SF being happy about continuing with Purdy. If Trey gets injured again or sucks, sure that is the end of that experiment, and they have a nice safety valve in Purdy to carry them over, I don't see them sticking with him. For SF its Lance or start over, they just have a bridge guy already on the team.

[Topweasel]

Hes cheap and he knows the playbook and system...I guess it gives them security in case the guy they want in the draft doesnt work out for them......Thats always a possibility with 31 other teams.

Yeah lets keep in mind that the Lions brought in 2 QB's that had been around before and neither of them made it to the week one roster. Every 1 season deal, or cheap vet option Holmes brings in isn't about filling a spot for the season. Its about making sure the spot is filled for now so he doesn't feel compelled to force a pick for a position to fill out the roster.

[Futureshock]

I'm not sure how interested the Lions were in bringing Chark back. He signed a one year $5 million with the Panthers and they negotiated for the better part of a week.

Wow. So half of what he played under last year?

Valenti seems to think the Sudfeld signing is an indication that the Lions will go QB at #6.

Yeah, he over reacts to everything.

The Lions will attempt to go with 3 QBs. They tried to get the league to change the rules for 3 QBs so the Sudfield signing doesn't say much of anything to me. It could mean a lot or nothing.

[Futureshock]

I'm more compelled to think that Quentin Johnston is more in play then a backup QB. If they were low-balling Chark they have to have a solution in hand.

[jaadam4]

I'm more compelled to think that Quentin Johnston is more in play then a backup QB. If they were low-balling Chark they have to have a solution in hand.

Backup QB or QB of the future?

[Futureshock]

Video:

Meirov: How Lions Have Crushed Offseason
Detroit Lions’ Superb Offseason Makes Them NFC North Favorites


Ari Meirov Reporter

March 22, 2023 5 min Watch

Ari Meirov joins host Trey Wingo to discuss the Detroit Lions’ offseason. Meirov explains why Lions general manager Brad Holmes has had the best offseason of any NFL decision-maker and how Holmes has put Detroit in a position to win its first division title in 30 years.

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Article broken into 2 parts.


AFC coaches share thoughts on Lions' Campbell, Sutton and Moseley


Justin Rogers


The Detroit News

Phoenix, Ariz. — Dan Campbell was drafted and developed by Bill Parcells, but no one has had a greater influence on the Detroit Lions coach than Sean Payton.


Payton was with the New York Giants when the team drafted Campbell in 1999. And when Payton followed Parcells to Dallas in 2003, Campbell came along with them, on Payton's recommendation. Then, when Campbell made the transition to coaching, Payton had to wait five years before getting a chance to hire his former player to the coaching staff in New Orleans.


And even though the two are now competitors, with Payton re-entering the coaching ranks as the head man in Denver this offseason, he's admired his pupil's rise in Detroit and been thrilled with Campbell's recent success.




“He’s smart, he’s tough, he’s passionate," Payton said at the NFL's league meetings on Monday. "I think we are in the passion business, and certainly Dan is. He’s a tremendous teacher. And he is someone that communicates extremely well with his players. Like, extremely well. Sometimes, it’s not what they want to hear, but I think they appreciate that, and it’s really good to see him doing well.



"I felt like we watched some of the toughest games for Detroit there for a stretch, and it was great to see that turn (around)," Payton said. "We’ve seen a 60-some-yard field goal bounce off the crossbar; I mean, you lose track of the many ways, but (Dan) epitomizes grit and toughness."




Campbell joined Payton's staff in New Orleans after serving the Dolphins' interim head coach for the final 12 games of the 2015 season. With the Saints, he coached the tight ends and worked as Payton's assistant head coach, where he had an opportunity to refine his coaching resume for his next opportunity, which didn't come until 2021, when the Lions hired Campbell to replace Matt Patricia.



"I learned more under Sean than any other head coach in my time as a player," Campbell said last offseason. "I was with him for eight of my 11 years, as a player under him, and then to coach under him for five years, I got both facets of it, as a player and a coach. And so really, everything that I am, or what I'm about, or how I think, really does come from him, in a sense.



"I think he was always ahead of the game, he was innovative, he knew how to pull the most out of his players, he knows how to put his players in a position to have success — better than anyone I've ever been around," Campbell said. "He knows how to use the totality of the roster on game day. And man, I think his ability to know, hey, this is what this player needs. This player needs a boot in the rear, or this player needs a hug, or just how to motivate. Those are things you never forget."



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A beautiful mind



Prior to signing with the Lions in free agency, cornerback Cam Sutton spent six years with the Pittsburgh Steelers. A third-round draft pick in 2017, he only managed to see the field sporadically in his first three seasons on those veteran-laden squads before developing into a key defensive cog in the past three years.




Often praised for his football IQ, Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin echoed those sentiments about Sutton, while noting the Lions are getting a premium talent in the defensive backfield.




"First of all, I always hesitate, because the first thing I think about is his above-the-neck game, his maturity and his preparation," Tomlin said. "But, in stating that first, you're almost disrespectful to his talent. He's a talented guy. But beyond that, I think the things that are his calling cards are his intellect and his prep, his communication skills. I just think it allows him to be versatile. He does a good job of getting people around him on the same page and I'd imagine those are skills that are going to travel."



The Lions awarded Sutton a three-year, $33 million contract this month, the biggest contract the team handed out in free agency. The versatile defensive back, who averaged more than 1,000 defensive snaps in the past two seasons, is coming off his best campaign. He racked up 15 pass-breakups and held opposing quarterbacks to a 47.9 completion percentage and 65.3 passer rating when targeted in 2022.



A fierce competitor


Similar to Tomlin's familiarity with Sutton, Houston Texans coach DeMeco Ryans has been around new Lions cornerback Emmanuel Moseley for his entire pro career. Ryans was coaching the San Francisco 49ers linebackers when the team signed Moseley as an undrafted free agent in 2018, then worked as the player's defensive coordinator the past two seasons.


Both Ryans and Moseley moved on from San Francisco this offseason, with Ryans taking the head-coaching job in Houston and Moseley joining Sutton, his former college teammate at the University of Tennessee, in Detroit. Ryans said Detroit is getting a top-flight competitor with experience playing under the brightest lights.


"In Emmanuel, Detroit is getting a tough, hard-nosed corner," Ryans said. "E-Man is battle-tested. He's played in big games, he's played on the big stage and he has big-time playmaking ability. I'm happy for E-Man. To see him go from undrafted free agent and to battle — and he's gone through ups and downs through his career with injuries — I'm happy to see him get a shot there in Detroit.


"And you're getting an unbelievable person off the field and you're also getting a competitor," Ryans said. "In practice, each and every day, E-Man is a competitor. Every rep is a game rep for him. That's what has set him apart and allowed him to make it in the NFL."

That competitive spirit and proven ability to fight through adversity should serve Moseley well in Detroit, where he signed a one-year, prove-it deal coming off a torn ACL. He's aiming to be medically cleared by the start of training camp, where he's expected to compete for the starting corner job opposite Sutton.


jdrogers@detroitnews.com

Twitter: @Justin_Rogers

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Article is in 2 parts.

Sean Payton happy for Dan Campbell's success with Lions: 'He epitomizes grit and toughness'


Dave Birkett

Detroit Free Press


PHOENIX — Sean Payton has always been a Dan Campbell fan, and that won't change now that the two are rival coaches in the NFL.



Payton, who was quarterbacks coach of the New York Giants when the team drafted Campbell in 1999 and hired Campbell as an assistant 17 years later with the New Orleans Saints, said at the NFL's annual spring meeting Monday he is thrilled for the success Campbell had last season in his second year as Detroit Lions coach.



“I felt like we watched like some of the toughest games for Detroit there for a stretch and it was great to see that turn," Payton said. "We’ve seen a 60-some-yard field goal bounce off the crossbar. I mean, you lose track of the different ways, but he epitomizes grit and toughness.”


The Lions went 3-13-1 in Campbell's first season as coach, losing three times on the game's final play and six times by eight points or less. In one heartbreaker, the Baltimore Ravens beat the Lions when Justin Tucker made an NFL-record 66-yard field goal off the crossbar as time expired after the Lions rallied from a 13-point second half deficit.




Last year, the Lions started 1-6, then won eight of their final 10 games to narrowly miss the playoffs.

They should enter 2023 as the favorite to win the NFC North.



Campbell and Payton have been close for decades, with Campbell playing for Payton on three teams — with the Giants, Saints and Dallas Cowboys — and spending five years under him as an assistant.



Payton hired Campbell as assistant head coach/tight ends coach with the Saints in 2016, after Campbell spent 12 games as interim head coach with the Miami Dolphins.


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When the Lions hired Campbell in 2021, he said, "I owe Sean probably more than anybody in this profession."


"He gave me an opportunity as a player and as a coach, and nobody’s believed in me more than Sean Payton, who knew exactly what I was and what I could do," Campbell said at the time. "So I’ll never be able to thank him enough. I’ve learned more football under him in my time as a player, but now as a coach, being under him five years, about how you see the game, how you use your staff, how you hire your staff, situational football. When to go for it, when to not, when’s it time to be aggressive, when’s the time to back off. But a majority of the lessons that I have are from him, and so I’ll forever be grateful for that."


Campbell said earlier this offseason he was not surprised Payton returned to the NFL after a one-year hiatus, and that Payton is uniquely qualified to lead a Denver Broncos turnaround.



The Broncos have not had a winning record since 2016, the last year the Lions made the playoffs, and are coming off a 5-12 season and three straight last-place finishes in the AFC West.



The Lions will host the Broncos at Ford Field this fall.


"Dan and I were at New York together, we drafted him," Payton said. "When I got to Dallas, we signed Dan. (Bill) Parcells asked me, 'Is this a guy we want?' So we brought Dan to Dallas and then when his career was finished spent a number of years trying to hire him. It’s kind of difficult you know to get a coach who’s under contract and I was finally able to do that.


“He’s smart. He’s tough. He’s passionate. I think we’re in the passion business and certainly Dan is. He’s a tremendous teacher. And he’s someone that communicates extremely well with his players. Like, extremely well. And sometimes it’s not what they want to hear, but I think they appreciate that and it’s really good to see him doing well."



Contact Dave Birkett at dbirkett@freepress.com. Follow him on Twitter @davebirkett.