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[kreton]

Is it PPR? He’s not much of TD threat.

Chark is out too? Oh man we’re getting destroyed. This is where Goff can show whether or not he’s legit if he can make this squad still compete.

Who’s your non Lions choices?

I don't think destroyed but I don't see us winning or scoring much. 17-10 or 13-10 or something like that seems like it is coming. I see the Lions going run heavy and screens and a lot of clock running.

[Cody_Russell]

Is it PPR? He’s not much of TD threat.
Chark is out too? Oh man we’re getting destroyed. This is where Goff can show whether or not he’s legit if he can make this squad still compete.
Who’s your non Lions choices?

14 league, half PPR. Breece Hall, Joshua Palmer, and Rhamonde Stevenson are the other options. They’re honestly all better options haha.

NB Justin Coleman is out for the Seahawks. So it will be rookie NB Coby Bryant vs slot Kalif Raymond today. Plus I think Ben Johnson draws up a deep shot or two for Raymond,

[jaadam4]

Who knew Geno Smith was this great

[CGVT]

I’m starting Kalif Raymond in fantasy. Seahawks defense is dreadful and Raymond did some nice things in training camp. The St. Brown replacement in the slot today.

Watch Hock have a career day now that I’m doing this. 🙄

Bwahaha!

[wcfwtf]

Dan Campbell said he knew
Defense didn’t get memo

[Tom]

I wonder if there’s a “Snacks” Harrison type of player available in the trade market.

[ghandi]

I wonder if there’s a “Snacks” Harrison type of player available in the trade market.

All kinds of fat guys available I am sure.....

[Futureshock]

The record disagrees that this team has different owner - different gm - different coach - different staff - different players? Cause I can kind of prove all of that.

SOL seems to just be the calling card of a pissed off pocket of fans who doesn't understand football enough beyond W/L to see anything different than "did they win". Anyone with half an understanding of football could look at what was inherited and could tell you that 1 year and 3 games was not going to be enough time.

I can't say with certainly that this regime will turn the franchise around however, I can say with certainty that they haven't been given anything close to enough time to try. This was never going to be fixed this fast no matter who was in place, or what they did.

What you must understand is there are pessimistos here that have sworn that the Lions will never win. EVER. My argument is that unless the world or the league ends, they will. One day. So decry of SOL until it isn't. They can't lose or be wrong. Remember, all the people who reasonably thought there'd be progress (and aren't wearing tin-foil hats) thought they would win 6-9 (I thought 9 was too high but whatever) games.

No reasonable person thought playoffs. Not that I know. Well, maybe Jaadam, but, that's his thing. So WE even thought they would LOSE 11-8 games. Then when they lose, people are surprised? Oh I know, they could have won so it is worse? GTFOH with that.

Lions scored 45 points and their D gave up 41 points. But the only thing that truly matters is they got a +1 in the loss column.

So you're wasting your time. They will scream that SOL shite until they can't. In all honesty, there is a long list of things a team has to do consistently to win gameS in the NFL. Now I think they have much more checks then before, but in the end they are 1-2.

When they were 6-2 in 2007, there was a lot of luck in those wins and the pessimists here warned the optimists. They were having none of it, the lead optimist at the time was Coop and he was mocking the pessimists.

See. But it is progress when Froot says he can't see the future (He can't see me!). No seriously, that also tells me there are some positive things happening.

[froot loops]

They have just had two prototypical SOL losses,.its not really the time to complain about S-O-L. I thought they'd be a six win team, now it seems that might be unattainable.

[Futureshock]

I want to see how they adjust.

[kreton]

They have just had two prototypical SOL losses,.its not really the time to complain about S-O-L. I thought they'd be a six win team, now it seems that might be unattainable.

Given the defense, why? We came into this season with 0 proven playmakers on defense. Seems people greatly overrated our defense.

[froot loops]

They have drafted 10 players on defense, they traded for Brockers, gave Charles Harris a big contract, signed DeShon Elliot, brought back Anzalone to be the starter. They should be better than worst in the league. It's not enough to say they have no impact players, they have been given the keys to the car, go find the impact players.

Find a way to force a few punts against a down Seahawk team.

[Nick Pappageorgio]

The D would look better if we could start hitting on some of these 2nd rd DL picks.

Is it too early to start musing about next offseason?

[kreton]

They have drafted 10 players on defense, they traded for Brockers, gave Charles Harris a big contract, signed DeShon Elliot, brought back Anzalone to be the starter. They should be better than worst in the league. It's not enough to say they have no impact players, they have been given the keys to the car, go find the impact players.

Find a way to force a few punts against a down Seahawk team.

They shouldn't be this bad, but the expectation of a decent defense is not right either. No team should be this bad.

mid to late round picks - and cheap short contracts aren't going to make a good defense. Brockers and Harris have been what I think anyone would expect. They have not really invested in the defense in a serious way.

As for the draft picks this year, they should be decent but rookies take time to develop. But expecting rookies to immediately fix a badly broken defense is more a failure of your expectations than anything else.

And using Anzalone to point to "investing" in the defense isn't a great level of reasoning.

The D line has potential. They do. They are under performing.

The rest of this defense is performing as I expected because they aren't good to begin with.

(Except Okudah, he has played better than I expected).

[froot loops]

Brockers has been terrible, a guy off of the street would have been better. He was terrible last year (40.6 PFF grade), he has 4 tackles this year. He has a cap hit of 10 million this year and if they waive him, they will be in the hook for 4 million next year. If you trade assets to get Brockers and then give him a 3 year 24 million dollar contract. He has to be an impact player.