Lions News

[GALion68]

Sorry to see Hock go but the tear down is still ongoing. Just hope to see a couple of more wins this season.

[Futureshock]

It's cute that you think this could be a 6-win team. If only we could aspire to such rarefied air.

Well, if the coach could get out the way, they should be. But he can't and they won't. We watch and we

[DaGeezer]

Any thoughts on which FA acquisitions by the Lions worked out well? Maybe some minor show-me contracts, but who has had enough impact to warrant the cost?

Seems to me that those teams that "hit" big in rounds 4-7 are the ones that really improve their team. (Dak Prescott # 135, Tom Brady # 199). Maybe the BB method of hoarding a lot of lower picks is the way to go.

[Futureshock]

Lions rookie film breakdown: Kerby Joseph continues to make plays

By Morgan Cannon

[froot loops]

The most efficient part of the Patriots success other than lucking into Brady is they were very efficient in finding and churning mid to low level free agents. Also, great scavengers on finding distressed older players like Randy Moss and Corey Dillon and getting value out of them. The prove it contracts are good, but the key is not spending too much on them when they prove it, rather finding the next guys to prove it. That's an endless churn.

Hoarding picks is also a good strategy but people focus far too much on that.

[kreton]

Kreton is giving them credit for contracts that allegedly don't hurt them in the future. It's as if this is the only thing that matters. At some point you have to find productive players and that might include spending that hurts your cap in the future.

The Chark contract was all sorts of terrible. He was injured last year, he is I jured this year. He cost 10 million dollars and it hurts them the next two seasons even though he isn't under contract.

It seems to me that they were only looking for short term contracts that don't hurt the future. Nothing is geared toward winning now. Hell, this feels more like tanking than anything else. They seem to have a long term plan. My point is, that no signing, including Chark really hurts that plan. Unless they really thought they were fielding a competive team this year. In which case, that is scary.

[froot loops]

Chark carries dead cap into the future. It was a terrible signing.

[kreton]

I just looked, and yes you are right. 1 year deal paying out over 3 years. I didn't realize that. That is a horrible contract.

[Cody_Russell]

Any thoughts on which FA acquisitions by the Lions worked out well? Maybe some minor show-me contracts, but who has had enough impact to warrant the cost

Charles Harris and Jamaal Williams are probably Holmes’ two best free agent signings. Noting that the Harris extension now looks bad, but his 1 year contract from 2021 was well worth.

Overall, I’d say Holmes has been a net negative when comes to free agency. It’s been mostly bargain shopping with these misses though. The strategy of re-signing their own players and relying on the draft helps explain the poor record 2 years in. 2023 and 2024 are huge offseasons for Holmes.

[Futureshock]

If any of you have Sirius Radio, tune into the NFL station and rewind to 1:15 pm EST. They had Dan Miller and talked about the Lions for over 30 minutes. Really good listen.

[gibby]

At least we can add another couple of years to the rebuild.

They may become a. 500 team in another decade or two.

Looking forward to the I-75 eyes. This season is over. The locker room will figure it out really soon. .
Who are they tanking for?

[Futureshock]

Brad Holmes explains T.J. Hockenson trade: ‘We’re still in the build phase’

By Jeremy Reisman

[froot loops]

From two years ago

[Futureshock]

So who is left from the Quinn era? Decker and Ragnow? That's it. I guess who we get from the picks from sell offs and comp picks like Joseph kinda count. But that era was brutal. And still haunts us now.

After this year it is a wrap though. 3 years of off seasons should be able to field a .500 team. The rule is NFL teams turn over a third of their roster every year so after three years both DC and BH need to be gone.

[Futureshock]

From two years ago

That was before his boss told him different. Dan Campbell needed the narrative for the extra years.