Part of the problem is there were unreal expectations from the fans and from the media.....There was no basis for this team winning 8-9 games at this point.....The defense has been awful since Suh left years ago....Until that is fixed, this team wont win much....How many games would the Giants, Jets, and others win if their team allowed 32 points per game?
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Most likely the only change we will see is Aaron Glenn is fired and they try some other DC.....That probably buys Campbell one more year.....They'll draft a rookie QB with a top 5 pick and he will most likely flounder his first year and the team will win 3 games...Unfortunately we are the ones that suffer through all this.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostIf you take Kreton's argument at face value, all of the crappy teams last year that are having success this year are doing it wrong. So Seattle, the Jets, the Giants are all screwing up and the Lions are doing it right.
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1.5 million? The league minimum for that guy is probably a million. This is not what’s generally referred to as a “significant transaction”Last edited by Nick Pappageorgio; October 31, 2022, 10:18 AM.
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Seattle was a 7-win team that allegedly traded away their HoF-caliber QB for packing peanuts. They should have (by the belief systems of the Optimigos here) completely cratered as a team. Instead, they got immediate results with the moves they made during the offseason, and appear to have not missed a beat.
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The Seahawks aren't a comparison situationally to Detroit no matter how much you want them to be for your narrative. Also for shiggles Pete Carroll was sub .500 his first two years in Seattle and had some measure of success after that. There's just no excuse for letting him do that. None.
In fairness he wasn't far off at 7-9 but I'm not the one going on rants saying there's no excuse to be under .500 in year two. No excuse.
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Originally posted by JGSpartan View Post
Seattle was a seven win team a year ago with a HOF coach that they kept, Neither the Jets or Giants are contenders no matter how much you want to believe they are.
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Originally posted by chemiclord View Post
Again with the bullshit. The Lions had the sixth most cap space in the league last offseason. Not only did they have money, they had more money than the bulk of teams. They got next to nothing with that cash. Their headline signing was D.J. Chark; who admittedly got 7 catches and 98 yards his last game...
... Oh wait. That's for the season? And now he's on IR? Well, that was a miss, huh?
The rest was spent resigning guys like Charles Harris (he of the dominating 1 sack and 13 tackles in six games), Josh Reynolds (who boffed as many TD catches yesterday as he's actually caught all season) and making sure the Lions got both their backup QBs back... who they promptly cut before any regular season games were played.
Cap space is what it is, but how much did Detroit have invested in their team? Lions in the two years with DC at the helm have had nearly 100 million in dead cap space over two years he had no control of. $100 million over 2 years for players not on the team. You ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative. Going from the worst in dead cap space to best in the NFL in two years is an incredibly great thing.
The Lions went from no talent to having probably the most talent taken in the last 2 drafts. We have possibly the best core of young players in the NFL right now. Tell me another team who has better players drafted over the last two years?
And on top of that we have two 1sts again this year.
This regime has fixed our dead cap hell.
This regime has no seriously bad contracts on the books.
This regime has done wonderfully drafting.
This regime is developing young players.
This regime has done great gathering draft capital.
Fixing the cap and salaries, drafting incredibly well, and doing it while not ruining the future is a good thing. You'd have not understand the NFL at all to sacrifice all that just have a .500 season now. It is idiotic.
You failed to realize this team would take more than 1 year and 8 games to fix. You failed. Fix your expectations and go learn how good teams are built. Cause this is it.
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What a mess...
Originally posted by Whitley View PostThere is a reason that Holmes AND Campbell got 6 year deals. They tore this team down to the studs (which I think nearly everyone wanted them to do) and it was always going to take two years to build the foundation.
Originally posted by Dan V View PostI expected 7-10 as the worst possible outcome this year.
This team will be lucky to be a 4 win team.
We had so many one score close loss games last year that I thought with growth we could be close to .500and build from there.
The close loss BS continues this year.
No improvement .
Look at the Bears- far less talent than us but 3-5.Look at the Vikes- 6-1 and leading the division with a brand new staff.
Look at the Jets with Saleh 4-13 last year and 5-3 already this year.
Drop the axe after the thanksgiving game which Buffalo will win 45-3
Originally posted by froot loops View PostThis year they spent $1.5 million on the super back Jason Cabinda.
Fun fact, next year they at minimum will have $10 million dollars in dead cap for Brockers and Chark. They have a $6 million hit alone on Chark and he isn't even under contract.Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.
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Originally posted by froot loops View Post
Kreton's argument is that it's death to be a 7 or 8 win team. It's better to be a one win team in his eyes.
I have said the goal is not to get to .500. And i said that a .500 team or a 1 win team is the same to me. And that I don't see any point in giving out bad contracts to try to get to 7 or 8 wins now and sacrifice the future with bad contracts.
We don't need another Jamie Collins and Tre Flowers to get us a couple wins now.
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