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[Topweasel]

A little richer on the total AAV than I thought, but really need to see the details to understand the true numbers. My guess is that it’s really a 3 year extension (so four total with this year) with a decision point before some ballon payment in 4th extension year. And hopefully they used some of this years cap space to keep the future cap hits down.

Expect Dak and Lawrence to pass this number up big time very soon. And then will be interesting to see what happens with Love.

Don't forget Purdy. His win loss and play off performances is going to really smash the market.

[froot loops]

A little richer on the total AAV than I thought, but really need to see the details to understand the true numbers. My guess is that it’s really a 3 year extension (so four total with this year) with a decision point before some ballon payment in 4th extension year. And hopefully they used some of this years cap space to keep the future cap hits down.

Expect Dak and Lawrence to pass this number up big time very soon. And then will be interesting to see what happens with Love.

Agreed, I was kind of surprised that the total number wasn't bigger. We know when these contracts come out the number is somewhat embellished. It's possible it's a true contract that reflects the 53 million AAV, but I expect it won't be that high.

Of course the very financially prudent callers on 97.1 flooded the airwaves with Hot Takes that any average quarterback could do what Goff has done at a much cheaper price

[Coop]

We can blame the Browns for the stupidity of the Deshaun Watson contract for setting a false starting point for QB contracts.

[chemiclord]

We can blame the Browns for the stupidity of the Deshaun Watson contract for setting a false starting point for QB contracts.

Nah. The only real "issue" with Watson's contract was that it was entirely guaranteed money. The actually year per year value wasn't that much of an escalation from what QBs were getting before that.

[El Axe]

A little richer on the total AAV than I thought, but really need to see the details to understand the true numbers. My guess is that it’s really a 3 year extension (so four total with this year) with a decision point before some ballon payment in 4th extension year. And hopefully they used some of this years cap space to keep the future cap hits down.

Expect Dak and Lawrence to pass this number up big time very soon. And then will be interesting to see what happens with Love.

I've seen posts saying that we'll probably be rolling about $20M of this year's cap space into next season. I'd guess that Holmes is taking advantage of that with these 3 contracts. If so, that could make our cap space look very good going forward.

[froot loops]

It's just a matter of supply and demand. If you take a look at the quarterbacks you have 10-12 solid proven starters that make a lot of money. After the 15th highest paid player it falls off a cliff and the rest of the quarterbacks are journeyman and young quarterbacks on their first contract that most are bound to fail. A few of those young quarterbacks will succeed but that basically replaces the quarterbacks that retire or become washed up.

When you have a quarterback, you keep the quarterback.

The Browns paid up for Watson because he showed a lot of promise. If it wasn't the Browns, it was going to be another team. Teams have a lot of money and the salary cap continues to go up at a much higher rate than it did when the Lions got hemmed in by the Suh/Stafford/CJ contracts.

[froot loops]

I've seen posts saying that we'll probably be rolling about $20M of this year's cap space into next season. I'd guess that Holmes is taking advantage of that with these 3 contracts. If so, that could make our cap space look very good going forward.

Spotrac only has them with 24 million left and they haven't signed Arnold and Rakestraw. You generally need 10-15 million just to get through the season. At this point last season they were in a similar situation (20 million in cap space) and they ended up rolling over 2.5 million.

[Sanders Fan]

It’ll be a bargain in a couple of years. Brad is getting ahead of the game and that’s the way to play it.

[Mainevent]

Sewell and St. Brown's cap hits in 2025 are relatively low next year, i wonder if they could frontload Goff's deal to match-up with that and then his cap number declines as those other contracts jump up.

[Coop]

Nah. The only real "issue" with Watson's contract was that it was entirely guaranteed money. The actually year per year value wasn't that much of an escalation from what QBs were getting before that.

I'll argue that - Watson has yet to prove he was worth that contract and Cleveland's Ownership/Management are a laughingstock.

[chemiclord]

I'll argue that - Watson has yet to prove he was worth that contract and Cleveland's Ownership/Management are a laughingstock.

That's a separate issue from the money he's getting. The hard dollars wasn't particularly out of line from what a top FA QB would have demanded. Neither is Goff's. That's just what you're going to pay.

[ghandi]

We can blame the Browns for the stupidity of the Deshaun Watson contract for setting a false starting point for QB contracts.

Daniel Jones' contract didnt help either...he has never been any good.

[froot loops]

Daniel Jones was really good the season he signed the extension. If they didn't sign that extension, he would have been under the franchise tag. Deshaun Watson went to three Pro Bowls.

Teams spend money on quarterbacks because the alternative is starting over. Supply and demand.

[El Axe]

Looks like it is frontloaded. Sounds good to me:

[chemiclord]

The guaranteed money allotment is going to be the bigger sign of how long it technically is, but I'd wager that is going to be fairly front loaded too.