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  • Originally posted by Whitley View Post

    Whew that is a big big hit.
    Cuts into about half of the cap, would be a mess if that happens.

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    • His original guarantees include $9M of this year’s salary. The Lions likely have no recourse on signing bonus, but if he’s violated the terms of his contract, maybe there is some wiggle room for that 2nd year salary. There’d basically only be an acceleration of $6M or so remaining for the signing bonus in future years on top of the $12M that they are on the hook for him already this year.

      if they cut him, they can always designate him a post June 1 cut and spread some of that hit over this year and next. But could be better to just take the 1 year hit.

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      • Man that sucks. Seemed like an awesome guy but at that hour alcohol and drugs can make a situation worse. I hope he’s innocent but this is a PR nightmare for the Lions
        F#*K OHIO!!!

        You're not only an amazingly beautiful man, but you're the greatest football mind to ever exist. <-- Jeffy Shittypants actually posted this. I knew he was in love with me.

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        • 3,062 carries, 15,269 yards, 5.0 yards/carry, 99 TD
          10x Pro Bowl, 6x All-Pro, 1997 MVP, 2004 NFL HoF

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          • On Fire GIF

            The internet is wild right now with this subject.
            A serious issue that needs to go through all the proper channels of collecting information. But yeah, Sutton didn’t seem like himself over the last few months. If the Lions have some kind of out, perhaps it’s a win-win situation to part ways for everyone.
            AAL 2023 - Alim McNeill

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            • So... signing bonus is already in his pocket, but for cap purposes is spread out over the contract as I understand it. So the signing bonus isn't guaranteed, it's already paid.

              But the guarantees in a NFL contract require you to at least show up. Even showing up like JaMayonaise Russel counts. But Cam cannot show up if he is a fugitive or incarcerated.
              "Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
              Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.​

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              • True but he's not going to serve time. He'll be available for the season but the Lions prob won't want him around.
                F#*K OHIO!!!

                You're not only an amazingly beautiful man, but you're the greatest football mind to ever exist. <-- Jeffy Shittypants actually posted this. I knew he was in love with me.

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                • His base salary is guaranteed for 2024 already. If they were to cut him they get no relief. I don’t know if there is any out due to violations of the morals clause or whatever the NFL deals have.

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                  • Innocent until proven guilty

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                    • Originally posted by joshlions View Post
                      Innocent until proven guilty
                      True, but going on the run is not a good look.
                      I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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                      • It doesn't look good, but something about this story doesn't add up. He's allegedly been on the lam from the police for 10 days, they have the wanted posters up, they have exhausted all avenues to try and contact Sutton but the police didn't call the Lions? The Lions claim they became aware this morning.

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                        • My guess is that they were trying to keep it on the down low, bring Sutton in quietly, and possibly bury it all depending on what he told them. Then Sutton went all Richard Kimble, and now they're making noise.

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                          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                            It doesn't look good, but something about this story doesn't add up. He's allegedly been on the lam from the police for 10 days, they have the wanted posters up, they have exhausted all avenues to try and contact Sutton but the police didn't call the Lions? The Lions claim they became aware this morning.
                            ^^^^^this
                            I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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                            • The “Lions” became aware this morning. Somebody who works for them might have been aware already.
                              3,062 carries, 15,269 yards, 5.0 yards/carry, 99 TD
                              10x Pro Bowl, 6x All-Pro, 1997 MVP, 2004 NFL HoF

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                              • Once source said no one has heard from him for last 13 days.

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