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  • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
    My friend Ken L

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    • I would have been more concerned about it if we hadn't seen Goff have this exact same development arc with damn near every receiver he's worked with outside of St. Brown (and now LaPorta). Remember when Reynolds was brought in, and one of the major selling points was that he already had a rapport with Goff, because even back then we knew that for whatever reason it took Goff an inordinately long time to gel with some receivers?

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      • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
        My friend Ken L

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        • Goff is throwing to specific spots on timing routes. That means the receiver has to read the coverage and run the route precisely. They run a lot of option routes, even that Skipper pass route was an option route and Goff made sure to tell Skip he read it wrong. Also in the case of Jameson Williams he also had to start getting off the ball on time. It was laughable how slow he was off the ball earlier in the year. It's why LaPorta has been such a revelation, he already knows the intricacies of what he has to do

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          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
            Goff is throwing to specific spots on timing routes. That means the receiver has to read the coverage and run the route precisely. They run a lot of option routes, even that Skipper pass route was an option route and Goff made sure to tell Skip he read it wrong. Also in the case of Jameson Williams he also had to start getting off the ball on time. It was laughable how slow he was off the ball earlier in the year. It's why LaPorta has been such a revelation, he already knows the intricacies of what he has to do
            I think alot of that had to do with bringing in LaPorta for the pre-draft interview...he said Dan Campbell and Ben asked him alot of questions to see where he was at knowledgewise of the TE position in the pro game....JaMo, on the other hand, I dont think was ever brought in....I dont think the Lions were expecting him to be available so they didnt bring him in....ALso I dont think JaMo really ran specific timing routes much in college...he was pretty much open no matter how sloppy the route was....It doesnt work that way in the NFL, especially in this offense.

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            • Crypto was right:
              "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
              My friend Ken L

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              • Hot Take.

                He won't need the five years.
                Lions Fans.

                Demanding Excellence since Pathetic Patricia Piddled the Pooch!

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                • Hot take.

                  I don't want to wait 5 years.
                  "Your division isn't going through Green Bay it's going through Detroit for the next five years" - Rex Ryan

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                  • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                    Goff is throwing to specific spots on timing routes. That means the receiver has to read the coverage and run the route precisely. They run a lot of option routes, even that Skipper pass route was an option route and Goff made sure to tell Skip he read it wrong.
                    Creates a huge grey area this. Was it a shit throw? Or did they read it wrong? Sounds like a free ticket to QB’s

                    Skip: “Hey Jared? 🤷‍♂️ WTF was that?”
                    Goff: “I’ll tell you EXACTLY what it was. It was a precise, pinpoint accurate throw. You just weren’t there to receive it!”
                    Skip: “Yeah but……”
                    Goff: “No buts. You suck…… GET BETTER at reading my throws.”
                    Skip: “BUT 🤷‍♂️”
                    Goff: “NO BUTS!”

                    "...when Hibernian won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

                    Sir Alex Ferguson

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                    • It is gray area. Some receivers don't ever adjust. The team that did the most of these options route passes were the Brady Patriots. Brady was known to tell receivers that if you don't run your route right or you drop a pass he was never going to look their way. Chad Ochocinco never would get those right in NE, so he was a non factor there

                      Most of the time it is reading if it is zome or man coverage. Like on a crossing route, if the defense is in man coverage the receiver is to keep on running, if it is zone he has to sit in a certain spot. That is the simplest concept and in that example it's normally easy to tell who screwed up.

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                      • I'd argue it's not much more of a gray area than any pass, honestly. Even with "traditional" routes you can have endless arguments of if a pass was misplaced or the QB was "throwing to where only the receiver could possibly catch it."

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                        • The Lions are #4 in this week’s ESPN power rankings.
                          3,062 carries, 15,269 yards, 5.0 yards/carry, 99 TD
                          10x Pro Bowl, 6x All-Pro, 1997 MVP, 2004 NFL HoF

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                          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                            It is gray area.
                            How gray?

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                            • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                              My friend Ken L

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                              • "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
                                My friend Ken L

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