Statistically Jimmy G doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade. He should garner enough interest from teams that he’s not gonna be cheap. Continuity wise he’d be Learning a new offense and I don’t know where he is rehab-wise. And I’m afraid flipping him for Goff could be the first crack in the “We’re a family”/“It’s a business” schism that always sinks locker rooms.
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Originally posted by CGVT View PostJimmy G would be a huge step back. Hell, he lost his starting job in SF and they were trying to get rid of him.
And...the last time I looked Goff doesn't play defense. The early season defense is why they are not sitting starters right now, not Goff.
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Originally posted by DanO View Post
Agree Loops. I don't think you're going to get a better QB. Cheaper you can get. Better I don't think so. I'm all for drafting a developmental QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
This idea that we should not draft a QB unless he is going to be Mahomes or Brady is totally unrealistic. Do the names Joey Harrington or Andre Ware ring a bell? They were top 7 picks who did nothing. It is a crap shoot, but you cannot win if you don't play. What is true in the NFL is that if you don't have a top QB, you are likely not going to contend for a Super Bowl. The Lions are in a position to pick Richardson and let him play behind Goff for a year.
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Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post
I'd be happy if Richardson fell to us at # 17. Let's keep in mind that QB2 on the Detroit Lions is a real weakness. Sudfeld may be OK, but we really don't know for sure.
This idea that we should not draft a QB unless he is going to be Mahomes or Brady is totally unrealistic. Do the names Joey Harrington or Andre Ware ring a bell? They were top 7 picks who did nothing. It is a crap shoot, but you cannot win if you don't play. What is true in the NFL is that if you don't have a top QB, you are likely not going to contend for a Super Bowl. The Lions are in a position to pick Richardson and let him play behind Goff for a year.
Now, if there is some scenario where Stroud slides to #6 (or even more unrealistically to the middle of the round) and all the big defensive players are off the board? Sure, Stroud very likely would be the best available pure talent at that spot, and there's a more than decent chance he'd be an upgrade from Goff pretty damn quickly. But what are honestly the chances of that happening?Last edited by chemiclord; January 8, 2023, 01:28 PM.
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Quit looking at the stats and use your fucking eyeballs.
the stats don!t tell the tale here….the lions current record does.
Goff is pretty good when we win….and god awful when we lose. You all refuse to lay any blame for the losses at his feet (the D should have done more)….News flash: we haven’t earned a playoff spot. Quit acting like we have.
Fuck the stats….what’s the win percentage of those 2 QBs in the last 3 years? Don’t give me that statistical downgrade shit…that argument is a dog
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Originally posted by ghandi View PostJudging by the teams picking ahead of that Rams pick, no way Stroud makes it to 6.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostHe certainly wasn't god awful against the Eagles, Seahawks and Vikings. You seem to excuse away bad performances by Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson for any reason but are hypercritical of Jared Goff.
I guess you guys know a franchise QB when you see one. To me Goff isn’t the guy you build a team around.
And…since we’re bring up ancient history, when Goff wasn’t playing well early in the season….weren’t you one of the “Goff is Campbell/Holmes guy” and they should be on the hook for his performance? That was convenient when you were trying to tell us how bad Campbell was…
Goff is mediocre….and is not worth 1/6 of the Lions cap. I agree with McVay that he’s not a franchise QB
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Originally posted by Nick Pappageorgio View PostAgain…I’m not advocating drafting a QB.
I’m saying that it’s imperative that Goff reduce his cap number…and if he won’t do that the Lions should be prepared to walk away.
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Originally posted by Nick Pappageorgio View Post
There are reasonable excuses (1.7 years away…playing with a dislocated shoulder…being traded to a team a week into camp)….
I guess you guys know a franchise QB when you see one. To me Goff isn’t the guy you build a team around.
And…since we’re bring up ancient history, when Goff wasn’t playing well early in the season….weren’t you one of the “Goff is Campbell/Holmes guy” and they should be on the hook for his performance? That was convenient when you were trying to tell us how bad Campbell was…
Goff is mediocre….and is not worth 1/6 of the Lions cap. I agree with McVay that he’s not a franchise QB
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