All the Other Games Thread

[chemiclord]

And takes another rminute off of the clock. They never get the second TD

You presume an awful lot that it would take another minute. More like 30 seconds based on the sort of drives teams are pulling out of their asses in these situations.

We just watched Buffalo and KC have scoring drives of 52 seconds, 49 seconds, and 13 seconds (granted this one was just looking for a field goal).

How is that particularly better than getting burned on one big play in 36 seconds? Or Stafford needing 42 in three plays?

Listen, I dunno if just playing the same base defense would necessarily be better. I'm just saying that it doesn't look like it would be any worse than a 50-year old strategy that has been gamed to death. The coach that figures out a different strategy that at the very least makes the offense have to think about it for a second longer is going to have a massive leg up in these close games.

[Mainevent]

OT rules are fine for regular season but I don’t like it for the playoffs. But probably doesn’t make sense to have two different sets if rules.

I don’t feel bad for the Bills though. They had to play defense for 13 seconds and couldn’t do it.

[froot loops]

Stafford hit that last pass specifically because they weren't playing prevent, they got.caught in a blitz with the Rams having no timeouts.

The Bills in OT certainly weren't playing prevent, but it didn't matter. The Chiefs marched through them like a hot knife through butter The Bills D was gassed and even worse had no answer for Hill, Kelce and Hardman. There is no scheme for covering them with three step drops. Sometimes they should never run the ball.

[froot loops]

You can talk schemes all day long,.last chalk wins but one thing that is undisputable is they should have squibbed the ball.

[chemiclord]

one thing that is undisputable is they should have squibbed the ball.

Now THAT is something I think we all can agree on. There is no kick returner more dangerous than Patrick Mahomes.

[froot loops]

I feel like squibbing the kick is out of fashion, that was a common thing 20 years and it seems like nobody ever does it now, either they kick it out of the end zone or they try to pop it up at the one. Squib it to the 10-15 yard line and make them waste time. It should be an automatic play.

[froot loops]

I'm not a big fan of the NFL ot rules, but I'm not a fan of the OT rules at any level of football. In the playoffs I would rather they give them a quarter at a time. It lessens the impact of the coin flip.

[JGSpartan]

Clock doesn't start on a kick until it's received. If you squib it and someone gets it before it gets that far and immediately gives up you'll give them even better field position

[froot loops]

Squib kicks never ever had problems getting it to the 10-15 in games that I watched. So if they want to kneel at the 18 yard line, go ahead.

[JGSpartan]

I think the OT rules now are fine, just change it to include TD's instead of only fg's for the first drive. Whoever gets a lead at any point after both teams have had a possession wins. You'd have to give serious thought to two point conversions if you do score on the first drive and the second team will have a chance to try to win on a 2pt or allow the other team another possession needing only a FG

[Cody_Russell]

I like the old college OT rules (prior to 2021). College OT always feels more entertaining to me because the offenses are in scoring territory. Fair because each team gets an opportunity to possess the ball.

Still, inexcusable for the Bills D to give up a FG with :13 left. Terrible last second defense all around in todays games. Bills should have called a 2 or 3 man rush on the play with :8 left. Make Mahomes hold onto the ball for an extended time.

EDIT: How about this creativity with 0:08 left. Lineup 2 defenders on each of the KC skills players and literally hold them until the clock runs out. Similar to the genius Ravens holding play vs the Bengals a few years ago. Yeah, let KC pick up irrelevant penalty yards and run a play with 0:00 left. Won’t be in FG range.

[chemiclord]

Problem with that theory is that you have to hold, THEN force an incompletion in a way that doesn't lead to pass interference, THEN hope that the refs aren't going to call pass interference anyway.

[dpatnod]

No, instead of one big play, Brady just carves 'em up in four plays and gets the exact same result.

Oh screw that guys with his constant trash talking nonsense! Hope he gets fined. What a locker room cancer! I'm tired of these young thugs coming into the game. Back in my day quarterbacks were intelligent athletes. That guy'll never make it in the NFL. Why, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not back next year for the Bucs. I mean, you have to have standards. Now that Stafford, he can walk onto my lawn anytime I'm not running the barbeque. He's got his jelly beans in a jar!

[TheLondonLion]

Tyreek Hill (probably the reason the taunting rule came in) flashed the deuces running into the end zone and didn’t get flagged.

My problem isn’t so much with the rule itself but the way it gives refs power to make huge arbitrary calls. Surely that’s the absolute definition of taunting?

Another rule that needs looking at is delay of game. We don’t need a refs “interpretation” of what 0 seconds is, it’s time - literally black and white. It should even be reviewable. If the snap is after 0 it’s delay of game, no ifs and no buts. Again you’ve got situations where the Ravens are given 2 whole seconds after the play clock has expired but JPP runs at Stafford saying (rightly) the play clock is at 0 forcing them to call it yesterday.

It’s not a judgment call.

Defenses have enough to deal with with rule changes, a QB can damned well get the play off in time or the defense can get a helping hand for a change with an automatic flag.

[Cody_Russell]

Problem with that theory is that you have to hold, THEN force an incompletion in a way that doesn't lead to pass interference, THEN hope that the refs aren't going to call pass interference anyway.

Don’t make contact more than 5 to 10 yards downfield. Literally hold or tackle them at the line of scrimmage for a few seconds.
5 yard holding penalty or PI at the spot of the foul doesn’t hurt.

I would actually do a 3 man rush. 5 DBs hold the skills position player. 3 deep safeties as insurance just in case.

Think it would work assuming the NFL doesn’t have a rule about intentional fouls.