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  • Matthew Stafford Trade Tilting In Lions’ Favor Even After Rams’ Super Bowl Win


    Jeff DiamondAward-Winning NFL Executive

    December 15, 2022 6 min read
    Matthew Stafford Trade Tilting In Lions’ Favor Even After Rams’ Super Bowl Win

    Early in my years as an NFL Executive, I learned to never judge a trade until at least two years have passed. Rarely has there been a better example than last year’s trade where the Lions sent Matthew Stafford to the Rams for Jared Goff, 2022 and 2023 first-round picks and a 2021 third-round pick.

    What a difference a year makes in looking at this trade, which could see the Lions land a top-five pick in the 2023 draft after the Rams’ current struggles.

    The trade looked great for the Rams last year with Stafford playing well — 4,886 passing yards, 41 touchdown passes, No. 6 in the NFL in passer rating — staying healthy and leading the Rams to a Super Bowl victory. After quarterbacking the Rams to the Super Bowl in 2018, Goff was coming off two down seasons in L.A. before the trade, and the Lions struggled to an 0-10-1 start last season on their way to a 3-13-1 start with Goff at the helm.

    His stats were mediocre (3,245 yards, 19 TD, 8 INT, 91.5 passer rating). The third-round pick they acquired in the 2021 draft — Ifeatu Melifonwu — is a backup safety so the trade looked like nothing great there so far.

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    Now, the trade has completely reversed course and looks lopsided in favor of the Lions. It doesn’t look like that will change in the future either. The all-in Rams have repeatedly traded away first-round picks for Brandin Cooks, Jalen Ramsey and Matthew Stafford in recent years. They are now the NFL’s most disappointing team this season with a 4-9 record through 14 weeks. Stafford has played in only nine games (3-6 record with 10 TD passes, eight interceptions and has been sacked 29 times) before going on injured reserve with a neck injury/spinal cord contusion.

    Stafford turns 35 in February while Goff, at 28, is having a career renaissance. Goff is the hottest QB in the league, leading the Lions to a 5-1 record in their last six games with 10 touchdown passes and just one interception. The Lions are in the middle of an impressive run to rebound from a 1-6 start and put themselves back into the playoff race.

    Goff just torched the 10-3 Vikings for 330 passing yards and three TD passes with no turnovers. He has 22 touchdown passes against seven picks with a 65% completion rate and ranks seventh in the league with a 97.9 passer rating. He looks much more like his 2018 self when he threw for 4,688 passing yards and 32 touchdowns.

    “I feel like I am playing the best football of my career right now,” Goff said in a press conference last week.

    Give credit to Goff but also to first-year offensive coordinator Ben Johnson and coach Dan Campbell. After the win over Minnesota, Campbell raved in his post-game press conference about Goff’s current high level of play.

    “He’s playing outstanding,” Campbell said. “He’s a direct link to why we are playing better. He’s taking care of the football and making big throws. He’s cool, calm and collected.”

    Lions general manager Brad Holmes was the Rams’ Director of College Scouting when the team selected Goff with the first overall pick in 2016. While obviously coveting the three high draft picks in the Stafford trade, Holmes said before the 2022 draft that “we have a lot of optimism about Jared Goff moving forward.”

    Holmes made it clear he didn’t consider Goff to be a stop-gap. This made it an easier call for Holmes to pick defensive end Aidan Hutchinson with the second overall pick last April because there was not a can’t-miss quarterback or even an outstanding prospect such as Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen worthy of Detroit’s second overall pick. Kenny Pickett ended up as the first QB selected at No. 20 by the Steelers.

    After his performance this season, Goff has further cemented his status as the Lions’ long-term starter. He should not be viewed, inside or outside the organization, as a bridge quarterback to a future high-draft pick.

    Further good news for the Lions is Goff’s contract is affordable with two more years under contract at $26 million per year. The Lions can continue to build a quality offense and defense to support him. Goff is also a team leader, who is doing great things in the community (he’s Detroit’s nominee for NFL Man of the Year).

    The Lions used the Rams’ 2022 first-round pick (No. 32 overall) as part of a package to trade up to the No. 12 spot and select speedy wide receiver Jameson Williams, who is now back from an ACL tear. Williams’s first-ever catch was a 41-yard touchdown pass from Goff to open last week’s scoring against the Vikings. He should be a long-term, elite receiver for the Lions’ offense.

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    With a high first-round pick from the Rams coming in April, the Lions have an opportunity to pick another impact player — likely on defense. They can add an impact player similar to their selection of Hutchinson, who registered his seventh sack along with two tackles for loss and two quarterback hits last Sunday. Hutchinson’s performance helped lead a young Lions defense that has improved after a poor start this season. Where Do the Rams Go From Here?


    Now, what about the Rams’ future prospects? They have a wounded Stafford, ace receiver Cooper Kupp is likely out for the year (high ankle sprain) and highly-paid superstar defensive tackle Aaron Donald is having a less impactful season (five sacks). They are also missing picks in the first, fourth and fifth rounds next year. Things look dramatically different compared to when they hoisted the Lombardi Trophy just 10 months ago.



    The Rams are tight against the projected 2023 salary cap, so it will be difficult to sign impactful free agents without major contract restructuring on high-salaried stars such as Donald, Ramsey and Kupp. Doing so will create more cap pain in the future.

    The good news with Stafford, salary cap-wise, is he has an affordable $20 million cap hit next year. The bad news: when they extended him for $40 million per year last March, he now carries a $49.5 million dead money hit if he were to be traded or released in 2023. Perhaps they could spread it over two years if he retires or is traded/released after June 1. They’re almost certainly married to him for two more years but what if his neck/spinal injury becomes career-threatening?

    Another thing I learned early in my NFL front office career is to never believe you’re one player away from a Super Bowl. My predecessor as Vikings GM — Mike Lynn — tried that approach with the infamous, awful Herschel Walker trade with Dallas for multiple high picks, and I had nothing to do with that decision. We were a playoff team but never got to a Super Bowl with Walker, who was not a good fit in our offense and was gone two years later.

    It did work out for the Rams but only for one year unless their fortunes change in 2023. They no longer believed in Goff and thought Stafford was the guy to take them to the promised land. Which he did. But it appears they sold their souls for just one year of success.

    Hindsight is 20-20, but I’d say they should have been more patient with Goff and kept those three high draft picks. After all, isn’t Sean McVay supposed to be an offensive genius? So why couldn’t he get Goff back to playing as he did in 2018 and as he’s doing now?

    This idea of going all in and winning a title sounds reasonable at the outset, but when a team like the Rams unravels, it becomes a much less attractive proposition. That kind of decision-making can cost front office members and coaches their jobs, even for an alleged coaching guru such as McVay, who is hoping the pendulum turns back L.A.’s way in 2023. It’s possible in the turbulent NFL, but I tend to doubt it’s probable with all their issues.

    Meanwhile, the Lions are smiling like a Cheshire cat as they ponder their future course. It could include a playoff berth this season (they have a big game at the Jets this Sunday to stay on track), a division co-favorite role with the Vikings next year, and I know it’s premature but — dare we say — becoming a contender for the Lions’ first Super Bowl ever in the years ahead?

    Jeff Diamond is a former Vikings GM, former Tennessee Titans President and was selected NFL Executive of the Year after the Vikings’ 15-1 season in 1998. He now works for the NFL agent group IFA based in Minneapolis and does other sports consulting and media work along with college/corporate speaking. Follow him and direct message him on Twitter– @jeffdiamondnfl

    Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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    • Nice article Future thanks for sharing that

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      • How many Super Bowls did Jeff Diamond win?

        I'll give you guys a hint. It was one less than the Rams won with their "fuck them picks" strategy.

        Sometimes you ARE just "one player away" and making a "win now" move makes sense even if it means lean years down the road. Diamond is trying to use this as an excuse for his gunshy management that led to exactly nothing for the Vikings.

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        • I personally think both teams got what they needed from the trade.

          Like I always say, there doesn't have to be a loser in a trade.
          Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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          • Originally posted by Futureshock View Post
            I personally think both teams got what they needed from the trade.

            Like I always say, there doesn't have to be a loser in a trade.
            I agree with you, Futureshock that the Stafford/Goff trade will probably turn out to be a win-win trade for both teams.

            The LA Rams got what they wanted: A Super Bowl win, and the Detroit Lions will probably get what they wanted: Draft capital to stock the team with talented players.

            I do wonder though what both teams will look like in about another season or 2.
            "I hope to see the Lions in the Super Bowl before I die"
            My friend Ken L

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            • I'm thinking that going 57 thousand years without a 1st round pick is coming back to bite them in the ass. The strategy worked and they knew this reckoning would be inevitable. Clearly worth it with getting the ring.
              "Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
              Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.​

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              • I bet they, and the die-hard Ram fans, didn't think it'd all come crashing down this fast

                I was remembering how I thought there would be no way that the Lions would have a better record this year. Yet here we are


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                Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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                • Yeah but flags fly forever for My Rams.

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                  • Enjoy
                    Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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                    • How Los Angeles Rams QB Matthew Stafford Can Get Back on Track in 2023

                      Dalton Miller - December 20, 2022
                      After speculation that retirement could be looming, Los Angeles Rams QB Matthew Stafford has confirmed that he will return in 2023.​
                      Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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                      • Originally posted by Futureshock View Post
                        How Los Angeles Rams QB Matthew Stafford Can Get Back on Track in 2023

                        Dalton Miller - December 20, 2022
                        After speculation that retirement could be looming, Los Angeles Rams QB Matthew Stafford has confirmed that he will return in 2023.​
                        Doesn't really mean a damn thing. Nothing is stopping him from saying, "You know what, I've got the ring, I've got the stats, I've got the money, my spine is breaking down and I got 4 little girls. Calling it a career."
                        "Yeah, we just... we don't want them to go. So that's our motivation."
                        Dan Campbell at Green Bay, January 8, 2023.​

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                        • This hurts:



                          Allen is the leader of that Rams OLine.
                          Skowronek made that ridiculous catch in the Rams comeback win vs the Raiders.
                          AAL 2023 - Alim McNeill

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                          • Keep waiting for "The Rams have announced they do not have enough players to complete the season and will forfeit the rest of their games"

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                            • DEN and RAMS this weekend. A total tanktastic game. Let’s Ride!

                              If the Rams lose, we’re looking at the 3rd pick. That’s the sweet spot for me. You get either Anderson/Carter or your choice of QB. That’s really the ideal spot. You have to assume HOU goes QB as they don’t have one. Who knows.

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                              • Aaron Donald ruled out for Sunday, most likely done for the season according to McVay

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