Detroit Tigers

[Cody_Russell]

AJ Hinch! Yes! Make it happen.

I think Hinch will be the best "head coach/ manager" a Detroit team (Lions, Pistons, Tigers) has hired since I've been old enough to follow sports.

- Larry Brown was an exciting hire, while also bizarre.
- Stan Van Gundy, minus giving him GM responsibilities, was promising.
- Dwayne Casey, solid.
- Ron Gardnehire, put him on Dwayne Casey's tier.
- Steve Mariucci was probably the most exciting Lions head coach hire given his success with the 49ers. This doesn't say much given the other hires.

[Fraquar]

Keep in mind the guy who followed Snell gave up a run 6 games in a row in the playoffs,. Only to set the record with 7.

This was an all time fuckup. Historical fuck up.

I know it was only a 1-0 lead, but this smells of saving him to give you a few innings in Game 7 to me.
You can't get to 7 until you deal with 6 first.

[Fraquar]

The game has gone from pitchers taking the ball with the expectation of giving you 9+ if needed to guys getting pulled on 2 hitters with 70 pitches.
It's just a hard game to watch anymore.
You grow up watching Gibson and Lolich have the duel of a lifetime
You grow up watching Nolan Ryan throwing triple digit heat at 150 pitches
Then you live to see this shit......

[-Deborah-]

Detroit Tigers hire A.J. Hinch to be team's new manager on multi-year deal

https://www.wxyz.com/sports/detroit-tigers-hire-a-j-hinch-to-be-teams-new-manager-on-multi-year-deal

[Cody_Russell]

Yay!
How can I word this... the Tigers have created the opportunity to have a successful window for the next ~5 or so years. Which, is exciting and what you ask for as a fan.

- Payroll is flexible. Ilitich will answer the question if he is willing to spend now. If not, sucks to be us.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/detroit-...early/payroll/
- Top 3 to 5-ish farm system:
https://www.mlb.com/news/2020-midsea...stems-rankings
- AJ Hinch. Proven manager.
- #3 overall pick in 2021.
- Handful of promising young position players... better than what we thought we had in 2019. Victor Reyes, Willi Castro, Jeimer Candelario...
- Downside. Al Avila. We have the right to be skeptical of his GM skills. Totally botched the 2015 FA signings/ last time the Tigers went out and spent.

[The King]

This will be a buyers market if you want to spend this year. Brad friggin Hand is on WAIVERS. Teams are declining lots of options already. Should be a lot of good cheap players as FA. I think other smaller market teams will dump actual good players on longer deals.

[The King]

Should be able to take on money for low level nobody prospects.

[Whitley]

AJ Hinch! Yes! Make it happen.

I think Hinch will be the best "head coach/ manager" a Detroit team (Lions, Pistons, Tigers) has hired since I've been old enough to follow sports.

- Larry Brown was an exciting hire, while also bizarre.
- Stan Van Gundy, minus giving him GM responsibilities, was promising.
- Dwayne Casey, solid.
- Ron Gardnehire, put him on Dwayne Casey's tier.
- Steve Mariucci was probably the most exciting Lions head coach hire given his success with the 49ers. This doesn't say much given the other hires.

I would argue Bobby Ross (made it to a Super Bowl with the Chargers) was the most exciting based on rep coming in.

[Whitley]

This will be a buyers market if you want to spend this year. Brad friggin Hand is on WAIVERS. Teams are declining lots of options already. Should be a lot of good cheap players as FA. I think other smaller market teams will dump actual good players on longer deals.

Unless there is a ton of non contenders it is a pretty thin FA class. I would let all the Tigers FAs walk. And right now I would be looking at Cesar Hernandez (can leadoff), Joc Pederson (a lefty power hitter...good defender....plunk him in LF and Reyes in CF) and Jason Castro (lefty hitter with decent power---solid defensively but not going to stand in the way of Rogers if he takes the next step).

[CGVT]

The game has gone from pitchers taking the ball with the expectation of giving you 9+ if needed to guys getting pulled on 2 hitters with 70 pitches.
It's just a hard game to watch anymore.
You grow up watching Gibson and Lolich have the duel of a lifetime
You grow up watching Nolan Ryan throwing triple digit heat at 150 pitches
Then you live to see this shit......

I agree. Pitch counts and analytics have taken the fun out of watching the game.

[Whitley]

I agree. Pitch counts and analytics have taken the fun out of watching the game.

Calling BS on this.

[CGVT]

Call it all you want. Analytics has ruined the game and it is starting to fuck up football too.

[Fraquar]

Calling BS on this.

You can look at all the analytics you want, and none of that can tell you what you see with your own two eyes TODAY.
They are a tool, nothing more, and if people look at that as an absolute instead of a tool - well they will usually end up looking like a tool.
Cash looks like a tool for that move - even if the analytics suggest the hit he just gave up MIGHT be the first turn on a spigot.

This isn't the 43rd game of the season, where you might save some wear and tear on your starter because you got another 100+ games on the schedule.
You lose, season is over. You ride your horses till they can't give you anymore, and Snell was a horse that needed to be rode, not put in the stall.

[chemiclord]

It's really just led to a different kind of over-managing; the difference being one is based on stats largely divorced of meaningful context, and the former was based off "gut decisions."

Leyland used to do the same shit like pulling pitchers whenever he felt like it, he just would say he "had a feeling about [x] matchup against this lefty on the morning of the second full moon after Easter" rather than "the analytics tell us that [x] starts to drop in effectiveness after [y] number of pitches."

No matter the tools, you're gonna have bad managers making bad decisions.

[gibby]

Tigers have a coach. Now they need 25 new players.