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[Forsh]

I haven't looked into the details ... guess the bargain with Goff was the less guarantees? Otherwise Love at 220 doesn't seem so much more than Goff at 212

EDIT ... yeah I read 170 guaranteed for Goff ... don't really see how the Lions got any kind of deal

[froot loops]

Goff got the going rate for a quality starter. He has a cheap cap hit for the next two years, the key issue is how they restructure the contract in 2026. The key to thinking about Goff and his value is 12 months ago a lot of people couldn't imagine that he should get 50 million a year. Now that is status quo for a quarterback. In a couple years 52 million AAV will seem quaint.

The cap is expanding at a rate that makes a lot of the hand wringing irrelevant.

[Forsh]

Fair enough I just don't see how these latest contracts make him look like some bargain. They're pennies more

[chemiclord]

It's less a "bargain" and more that QB contracts always tend to have that sticker shock reaction at first, before they become completely average contracts as more QBs get new deals over the next couple of years.

Goff's contract is already like the 6th or 7th biggest before even a snap has been taken, which is a bit fast.

[Forsh]

Fair enough

[froot loops]

It's a bargain if you compare what they did with Goff and what the Cowboys have done with Prescott. The Cowboys have kicked the can for a new extension, much in the way some people wanted the Lions to do with Goff. It is likely to bite them in the ass.


If you have a pretty good quarterback it's probably always prudent to extend earlier than you need to.

[Forsh]

It's a bargain if you compare what they did with Goff and what the Cowboys have done with Prescott. The Cowboys have kicked the can for a new extension, much in the way some people wanted the Lions to do with Goff. It is likely to bite them in the ass.


If you have a pretty good quarterback it's probably always prudent to extend earlier than you need to.

I mean yeah but if they'd given Dak a big extension those years ago he'd almost be due for another by now anyways

[froot loops]

The timetable was last year for them, his 4 year 160 million dollar extension is up after this year. They were pennywise, pound foolish. Last year the Cowboys should have given Prescott a deal similar to what Goff and Company got this year. As much as fans and owners like theoretically having a quarterback prove himself before committing to a big extension, it does not work financially.

As long as the cap is going up at the rates it has gone up for the last decade, the best bet is to get the extension done early.

[El Axe]

[Forsh]

Oh no

[El Axe]

[chemiclord]

Riley, come on down!

[chemiclord]

I sometimes feel like other teams in the NFL are actively trying to make sure the Lions don't solve their kicker situation.

"Shit. The Lions have signed a whole bunch of people, including Jake Bates."

"Don't sweat it. They still have Badgley on the roster. They love that dude."

"Actually... sir... Badgley's out for the season."

"Fuck! Jags! Release Riley Patterson! That'll distract 'em!"

[El Axe]

Chemi, watch your back. I'm concerned that the NFL will find out about how you know their meetings:

[froot loops]

Patterson wouldn't be a bad pickup if Bates shows he isn't consistent.