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You can do eeeet...

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You can do eeeet...

How much you wanna make a bet

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How much you wanna make a bet

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Although the following names have been bantied about in the Fire Patricia/Patricia Fired threads, I figured this was the best location for this new tidbit about possible replacements. Do NOT shoot the messenger..

Chiefs rumors: John Dorsey, Eric Bieniemy could be a package deal

by Matt Conner

Sources tell Matt Lombardo of FanSided that Eric Bieniemy and John Dorsey could be a package deal.

The upcoming hiring season should begin in the next few weeks in the NFL as one of several frustrated teams hungry for new leadership will make the first move to hire a new regime. For one team, it could include a reunion of former and current Kansas City Chiefs employees.

Matt Lombardo, National NFL columnist for FanSided, has word that former Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and current offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy might make themselves available as a package deal of sorts for a team looking to recreate the stable success of Kansas City. Lombardo writes:

Executives and sources around the league tell FanSided that former Kansas City Chiefs and Cleveland Browns general manager John Dorsey will likely be among the most sought after GMs, and it’s highly likely that he’ll be bringing Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bienemy with him as head coach.

Lombardo goes on to mention that three teams in particular stand out from sources: the Jacksonville Jaguars, Houston Texans, and Atlanta Falcons.

It’s no secret that Bieniemy is a favorite to win a head coaching job this offseason after taking several interviews over the last two years to no avail. Bieniemy now has eight season on staff with Andy Reid and the Chiefs and three full years as the team’s offensive coordinator. He’s earned the respect of his players and fellow coaches, and Reid himself has stated on multiple occasions how ready Bieniemy is for the task.

Some questions about Bieniemy’s background and the question of just how much he handles the Chiefs offense have reportedly held him back from actually winning a job outright, which makes the idea of a package deal even more interesting.

Dorsey is no stranger to questions or concerns despite a body of work that also speaks to his tremendous eye for talent. A team looking to turn things around could do much worse than turn their roster over to Dorsey, who honestly deserves far more credit than he receives around Chiefs Kingdom—from savvy signings of Mitchell Schwartz, to Travis Kelce‘s extension, to the perfectly placed trade to sneak in and take Patrick Mahomes from every other interested team in the 2017 NFL Draft.

Yet Dorsey was also reportedly (yet never confirmed) hard to deal with in K.C., a man with communication issues who can be abrasive and the cap concerns that piled up for the Chiefs certainly didn’t help (do NOT let him near contact negotiations). There was a reason the Chiefs allowed Dorsey to walk after helping to resurrect the franchise. Despite leaving a loaded roster, team owner Clark Hunt made the decision to move on and re-sign only Andy Reid to a new extension. He instead promoted Brett Veach to run the front office.

Both Bieniemy and Dorsey might come with some questions or concerns, but that’s true of any new hire (whether “unproven” or not). Both men have been a part of a very successful organization.

Dorsey has a proven track record to unearth talent and create a competitive roster rather quickly. Bieniemy is a proven motivator who has learned from a Hall of Fame coach for nearly a decade. Together, they might just resurrect a moribund franchise.

*A very valid a fact filled pros and cons article on these two.

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Although the following names have been bantied about in the Fire Patricia/Patricia Fired threads, I figured this was the best location for this new tidbit about possible replacements. Do NOT shoot the messenger..

Chiefs rumors: John Dorsey, Eric Bieniemy could be a package deal

by Matt Conner


Yet Dorsey was also reportedly (yet never confirmed) hard to deal with in K.C., a man with communication issues who can be abrasive and the cap concerns that piled up for the Chiefs certainly didn’t help (do NOT let him near contact negotiations). There was a reason the Chiefs allowed Dorsey to walk after helping to resurrect the franchise. Despite leaving a loaded roster, team owner Clark Hunt made the decision to move on and re-sign only Andy Reid to a new extension. He instead promoted Brett Veach to run the front office.

Dorsey has a proven track record to unearth talent and create a competitive roster rather quickly. Bieniemy is a proven motivator who has learned from a Hall of Fame coach for nearly a decade. Together, they might just resurrect a moribund franchise.

I find it hard to believe a team would let go of a GM that has been so successful in recognizing and acquiring talent just because he's lacking soft skills or isn't the best salary negotiator. What's the real story here Gonz?

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I find it hard to believe a team would let go of a GM that has been so successful in recognizing and acquiring talent just because he's lacking soft skills or isn't the best salary negotiator. What's the real story here Gonz?

If you were told you weren't up to snuff on those bolded aspects as part of your job, you, or at least I, would not want to be employed by that ownership either. Additionally, Andy Reid won whatever hidden power struggle there might have been.

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I find it hard to believe a team would let go of a GM that has been so successful in recognizing and acquiring talent just because he's lacking soft skills or isn't the best salary negotiator. What's the real story here Gonz?

In some cases, it's either the GM or the HC - one has to go because both can't stay.
In some cases, it's either the HC or the DC - one has to go because both can't stay.
The guy with the most pull usually stays, and the other goes. Reid and Ditka (vs Dorsey and Ryan).

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I checked this headline to see what was up and had to laugh at the photo that was attached. By design, I'm certain (rookie on rookie)...

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Justin Jefferson must speed skate in his off time - perfect form with the arms.

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Justin Jefferson must speed skate in his off time - perfect form with the arms.

Looking at it from your accurate perspective, isn't that how one dabs as well?

Edit: It also looks like #30 is begging for something down there.

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Under the radar stuff...

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Can anyone see the Chiefs being stopped for the foreseeable future?

I think Mahomes will end up with more rings than Brady.

The only thing I can see stopping him is a serious injury.

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Can anyone see the Chiefs being stopped for the foreseeable future?

I think Mahomes will end up with more rings than Brady.

The only thing I can see stopping him is a serious injury.

Sure they can be stopped. The Chiefs have had PLENTY of real close games to teams they should have thumped pretty solidly. Denver actually kept them locked down pretty tight until the Chiefs finally wore out the Broncos defense. Kansas City is amazing, but they aren't unbeatable by any stretch.

Also bear in mind Mahomes is still on a very friendly deal (that explodes next season I think). They're going to have to make some tough decisions about which players they want to keep, which should bring them back to earth some.

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If this can be taught, then why isn't it? This is a rookie corner, #38 Sneed, tossing a pulling and running full speed 4 year starting OLT in Garrett Bolles that weighs over 100+ more pounds aside like a rag doll. That's some Aikido action right there.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335805833507201027

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If this can be taught, then why isn't it? This is a rookie corner, #38 Sneed, tossing a pulling and running full speed 4 year starting OLT in Garrett Bolles that weighs over 100+ more pounds aside like a rag doll. That's some Aikido action right there.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335805833507201027

Uh they do. From youth football it is called leverage. Your coach Marinelli thought it was everything. He, and others, call it pad level.