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  • Jones was a UFA, he was going to get a lot. On the open market some team was going to go overboard. Carr has had a better career, but it's unclear if he has much left. There is just not that many quarterbacks available. At any time there are probably 20 legit quarterbacks and 12 teams trying to find a quarterback.

    The fact is between Wilson, Murray and Watson they set the bar at about 45 million per year. Jones was better than all three last year.

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    • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
      Jones was a UFA, he was going to get a lot. On the open market some team was going to go overboard. Carr has had a better career, but it's unclear if he has much left. There is just not that many quarterbacks available. At any time there are probably 20 legit quarterbacks and 12 teams trying to find a quarterback.

      The fact is between Wilson, Murray and Watson they set the bar at about 45 million per year. Jones was better than all three last year.
      Carr was released he was an actual UFA. Jones was only theoretical UFA, he still could have been franchised. I get that UFA QBs break the bank. But there is a reason the Giants declined the 5th year option and honestly last year record aside it wasn't much of an improvement. Not saying he couldn't have gotten more. I just don't see it. This contract seemed to be more about avoiding signing Barkley and having no legit solution for replacing Jones.

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      • Originally posted by Topweasel View Post

        Carr was released he was an actual UFA. Jones was only theoretical UFA, he still could have been franchised. I get that UFA QBs break the bank. But there is a reason the Giants declined the 5th year option and honestly last year record aside it wasn't much of an improvement. Not saying he couldn't have gotten more. I just don't see it. This contract seemed to be more about avoiding signing Barkley and having no legit solution for replacing Jones.
        Boom! And there you have it.

        It is what froot has been trying to tell you.

        Froot: spell quarterbacks
        Top: q u a r t e r b a c k s
        Froot: You forgot the F
        Top: There is no F in quarterbacks.
        Froot: that's what I have been trying to tell you.
        Last edited by CGVT; March 7, 2023, 08:55 PM.
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          • Originally posted by Mainevent View Post
            Guaranteed money and two first round picks. Tough pill to swallow. Especially with a guy that's missed a quarter of the games the past two years, regressed considerably (not all on him). He's also a bit of an odd duck.
            I forgot just how much the Browns gave up for Watson and all the teams that were in on him. And Jackson doesn’t have the legal bullshit hanging over him.

            In the NBA teams often don’t offer RFAs contracts because they don’t want to spin their wheels if the other team is just going ti match. Assume there’s some of that going on here.

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            • Originally posted by Cody_Russell View Post
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              I dont think I'd trade Goff straight up for any of them, especially at those ridiculous salaries

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              • With all of these crazy salaries maybe the Lions should draft a QB.
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                • Originally posted by ghandi View Post

                  I dont think I'd trade Goff straight up for any of them, especially at those ridiculous salaries
                  Me either. Goff was/is better than Watson, Murray, and Wilson. Rogers is old and has obviously lost much of his game as the Lions proved in both games.
                  GO LIONS "24" !!

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                  • Originally posted by CGVT View Post

                    Boom! And there you have it.

                    It is what froot has been trying to tell you.

                    Froot: spell quarterbacks
                    Top: q u a r t e r b a c k s
                    Froot: You forgot the F
                    Top: There is no F in quarterbacks.
                    Froot: that's what I have been trying to tell you.
                    I said the exact thing the first time I brought it up. I didn't really mention it a week ago when the conversation came up because honestly I forgot about Barkley also being at the end of his deal and thought that legitimately the Franchise tag was on the table (and was during comparisons in using it, with Cousins).

                    I challenge still the idea he would get the money on the open market (froot loops point that people always under value a UFAs pay). Jones had Giants over the barrel with this deal specifically because he was hard to replace and because the more important player would have been an even harder contract to negotiate.

                    Carr was an actual UFA, has shown better performance with just about any season being better than Jones' one marginal season got 35 a season.

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                    • Like I said last week, the bare minimum he was going to make was going the Kirk Cousins route. He made more, it's the way the league operates. The quarterback position is like musical chairs but if you had 5 or 6 more people than chairs. Sure Jones has one good year but he's 25 and is a big time runner. That is catnip to the NFL. The Giants did what they had to do and paid up.

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                      • Originally posted by DanO View Post

                        Me either. Goff was/is better than Watson, Murray, and Wilson. Rogers is old and has obviously lost much of his game as the Lions proved in both games.
                        Agree 100%....If the Lions faced the Rogers we saw in the past, the Packers win both of those games....Now he is just cruising off his reputation from the past.

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                        • I think people.are.fooling themselves on Rodgers. What you saw last year was a guy going through the motions. I think it's more likely we see closer to MVP Rodgers than a failing Rodgers if he gets a change of scenery.

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                          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                            I think people.are.fooling themselves on Rodgers. What you saw last year was a guy going through the motions. I think it's more likely we see closer to MVP Rodgers than a failing Rodgers if he gets a change of scenery.
                            I agree and I think that thumb injury had a much bigger impact on his season than was let on.

                            There is still gas in the tank.

                            All of you hoping he stays in GB so the Lions can beat up on a washed up player should be careful of what you hope for.
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                            • I'm not sure we would see more than a going through the motions Rodgers if he stayed in Green Bay. For many reasons he got sick of the organization and they got sick of him. It looks like we aren't going to see that theory out to the test. I also don't think GB is going to be a pushover either way. They have a competent organization that will field competitive team..

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                              • A healthy Rodgers going through the motions is still better than 20-25 current NFL QBs, Goff included in all honesty.

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