US Politics - 2020 Presidential Election - GOP v Dem cage fight (ENTER AT YOUR PERIL)

[-Deborah-]

dpatnod quoted me from another thread and you took it upon yourself to admonish me? Seriously, I have had it up to >here< with idiots this week, get yourself together and back off.

[Iron Lion]

It was a disaster. Just admit it and move on. He left it with all the military equipment and some lives to boot. Biden was the one who stressed "one life lost to Covid means more than all the shutdowns". But soldiers and civilians left behind after the pullout. Not so much..

I don't know what the expectations were.

A cursory Google search tells me that 7000 American soldiers died in Afghanistan and Iraq through 2019.

Assuming we invaded in the beginning of 2002, since 9/11 was in 2001, that's 17 years. It is just over one life lost per day during that span. I understand that war is long periods of nothing with short bursts where lots of people die.

So if you can explain how it was supposed to work then I'm all ears. I know Biden told everyone that we were pulling out and gave a date. I don't understand why American civilians stayed and died.

My view on Biden is that he is the corpse keeping the seat lukewarm until we get someone in there. I am a never-Trumper. "Just admit X and move on" is hilarious coming from your side in general. I don't know your particular stances on anything but the vast majority of your side has views that are so stupid it's mind-boggling. 1/6 was done by Antifa. Right.

Antifa meeting, January 6, 2021:
"Ok listen up everybody. We won. It's over. Trump is gone. All we have to do is nothing. Take a knee and let the clock run out."
"No, I say we dress up as Trumpers and commit high treason and attempt to thwart the transfer of power. Who's with me?"
"Hell yeah! We've always been looking for a way to make the orange man look bad! Well he can kiss his squeaky clean reputation goodbye because here comes Controversy #1!"

And two years later, Trumpers have not moved on from this. While demanding that Dems admit X, Y, and Z. What a joke.

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[froot loops]

Originally posted by -Deborah- View Post
"Stop fucking up every thread with political or conspiracy theory posts."

Really, on the thread that is titled " US Politics - 2020 Presidential Election - GOP v Dem cage fight (ENTER AT YOUR PERIL)

Cmon Deb

Get a grip and reading comprehension, it happened in the celebrity death thread.

[Nick Pappageorgio]

I'm putting this in the politics thread because it may inflame opinions

A week or two ago Sean Payton said a whole lot about Nathaniel Hackett....And while Payton may not be wrong, my first thought was "he shouldn't have said that out loud".

The following is Jason Whitlock saying hold my beer while speaking on M Rapinoe and US Womens Soccer team:

Title IX is one of the greatest hustles in the history of pimping. Iceberg ‘Kims’ convinced a U.S President and the 92nd Congress to mandate that billions of dollars be siphoned away from boys and invested in creating female jocks. It didn't matter that girls are far less likely to be interested in competitive sports, or that participation in competitive sports worked against women's supernatural reproductive powers. The American government has spent 50 years and trillions of dollars creating hardcore female jocks. We owed that to women because the government previously spent billions convincing men to take an interest in competitive sports. Oh wait, that didn't happen. The government didn't have to manufacture and bribe men to take an interest in competitive sports. It's in the nature of men, and we don't get pregnant and carry a baby inside us for nine months at a time.

There are actual physical differences between men and women that explain our disparate interest in playing games. Imagine that? Imagine spending billions of dollars in 50 years to create an unbeatable women's soccer team and the players on that team using their government paid for platforms to demonize their investors. That's the women's national soccer team. That's Megan Rapinoe. That's the group of overpaid, spoiled, and entitled women who claim they're underpaid, underappreciated, and represent a racist, homophobic, and sexist country. I despise them. I want them to lose. I'm delighted that Rapinoe played awful Tuesday morning a few days after insinuating that she could have made a ‘difference’ in the team's 1-1 tie with the Netherlands.

Rapinoe is the ultimate pimp. She's the Andrew Tate of LGBTQ feminism. She sees herself as a force for good, a force for freedom, and proper femininity. She believes she's a threat to the establishment. She's popular, people Google her and react to the things she says. She's wealthy beyond her imagination, sexually liberated, and adored by her followers. She's a fraud. She hates America because she hates herself. Her dyed hair, rebellious persona, constant smirk, and social justice posturing are beards masking her shallowness. She's toxic. Her attitude pervades the national team. At 38, she's only on the roster to further burnish her brand. The younger players mirror the attitude of the team's biggest star, they have little interest in representing America and competing at the highest level. They want to go viral and cash in on the feminism pimp game. Don't waste a second questioning your disdain for this team and Rapinoe, they deserve it. We poured everything we had into their success, diminished opportunities for boys and men for their success, and they've repaid us with ingratitude. Rooting for Sweden on Sunday, that's our reparations

[CGVT]

Wow. Whitlock is a stupid fuck.

[froot loops]

It sounds like Whitlock hasn't watched any of the games and doesn't know much about the team. It certainly isn't Rapinoe's fault for their stodgy play, this is a transition team and at least three of their best players are not there because of injuries. The coach has not been up to snuff his whole tenure. They have been extremely uncreative and won't change the formation. When they continued to force it up the left flank to Smith with three defenders on her, it wasn't Rapinoe doing that.

Rapinoe.is 38 and basically limited to super sub status, but the times she has been in there she has at least had some creativity. She lays it on thick and the Fox bots have been waiting to pounce, but they probably should watch the games.

[froot loops]

The Germans were the #2 team in the world and they got cashiered out in the group stage, damn Rapinoe!

The rest of the world is catching up, people acknowledge this and then when the team runs into rough water they completely forget about the world catching up. People act like the USWNT has won every World Cup and Olympics. People don't realize they took 16 years to win another World Cup after the Brandi Chastain PK in Pasadena.

[Nick Pappageorgio]

I watch as much Men's soccer as I do Women's soccer...Which is to say I only watch Soccer when I want to take a nap.

I only know Rapinoe from her activism...So I look at it and say maybe Whitlock isn't absolutely wrong. I would not have said so out loud and I certainly wouldn't have compared her to Andrew Tate. But on the other hand....She spends a lot of time blaming misogyny (and straight white men in general) for all of the issues in women's soccer and her life (she's mostly pissed off about her paychecks though).

But here's the reality....in terms of percentage of earnings the women earn almost 3 times what the men do. The women earn a 20% cut of the gross....the men's soccer team earns 7%. But men's soccer brings in 6 billion a year globally...Women's soccer brings in less than $400m annually. So in doing that math..the men's 7% of 6b (420m) is more than the entire sport of women's soccer earns globally in a year. Is this really the fault of the USA for being a misogynist, racist, anti-gay country (and as Whitlock points out...the gov't has spent a lot of money propping-up women's sports)? Or does she earn less money because people aren't interested in the product she's selling? At any Rate, marching out a USWNT who won't even salute the flag is a bad look on any level.

I think Whitlock is an ass for saying it out loud....but then again, he's not necessarily wrong on his points. And Rapinoe has certainly said some crazy shit in interviews over the years, maybe she had this one coming. But I also hate it when sportswriters wait until a player is on the down-side/end of career before starting to talk shit.

[mason reese]

that participation in competitive sports worked against women's supernatural reproductive powers

Hokey Smokes!!! Is it possible Whitlock is getting even stupider?

[Whitley]

It was a disaster. Just admit it and move on. He left it with all the military equipment and some lives to boot. Biden was the one who stressed "one life lost to Covid means more than all the shutdowns". But soldiers and civilians left behind after the pullout. Not so much..

When a pullout happens. Equipment, to some degree, is always left behind. He actually got out of Afghanistan something that should have been done over a decade ago.

[Blue Lagoon58]

I'm putting this in the politics thread because it may inflame opinions

A week or two ago Sean Payton said a whole lot about Nathaniel Hackett....And while Payton may not be wrong, my first thought was "he shouldn't have said that out loud".

The following is Jason Whitlock saying hold my beer while speaking on M Rapinoe and US Womens Soccer team:

Title IX is one of the greatest hustles in the history of pimping. Iceberg ‘Kims’ convinced a U.S President and the 92nd Congress to mandate that billions of dollars be siphoned away from boys and invested in creating female jocks. It didn't matter that girls are far less likely to be interested in competitive sports, or that participation in competitive sports worked against women's supernatural reproductive powers. The American government has spent 50 years and trillions of dollars creating hardcore female jocks. We owed that to women because the government previously spent billions convincing men to take an interest in competitive sports. Oh wait, that didn't happen. The government didn't have to manufacture and bribe men to take an interest in competitive sports. It's in the nature of men, and we don't get pregnant and carry a baby inside us for nine months at a time.

There are actual physical differences between men and women that explain our disparate interest in playing games. Imagine that? Imagine spending billions of dollars in 50 years to create an unbeatable women's soccer team and the players on that team using their government paid for platforms to demonize their investors. That's the women's national soccer team. That's Megan Rapinoe. That's the group of overpaid, spoiled, and entitled women who claim they're underpaid, underappreciated, and represent a racist, homophobic, and sexist country. I despise them. I want them to lose. I'm delighted that Rapinoe played awful Tuesday morning a few days after insinuating that she could have made a ‘difference’ in the team's 1-1 tie with the Netherlands.

Rapinoe is the ultimate pimp. She's the Andrew Tate of LGBTQ feminism. She sees herself as a force for good, a force for freedom, and proper femininity. She believes she's a threat to the establishment. She's popular, people Google her and react to the things she says. She's wealthy beyond her imagination, sexually liberated, and adored by her followers. She's a fraud. She hates America because she hates herself. Her dyed hair, rebellious persona, constant smirk, and social justice posturing are beards masking her shallowness. She's toxic. Her attitude pervades the national team. At 38, she's only on the roster to further burnish her brand. The younger players mirror the attitude of the team's biggest star, they have little interest in representing America and competing at the highest level. They want to go viral and cash in on the feminism pimp game. Don't waste a second questioning your disdain for this team and Rapinoe, they deserve it. We poured everything we had into their success, diminished opportunities for boys and men for their success, and they've repaid us with ingratitude. Rooting for Sweden on Sunday, that's our reparations

He's literally one of the biggest(literally) pieces of shit(kinda literally) out there.

[Whitley]

Way back in the day. Whitlock used to make decent points. This article is just right wing click bait. Comparing her to Andrew Tate (who is involved in a sex trafficking ring) I'd just done mail in lazy ass writing.

[jaadam4]

I don’t disagree with his overall perception of Rapinoe. Her and the rest of that team can suck it for not joining in the national anthem. It’s been pretty constant over the last few years of taking knees and taking everything away from the game to join the limelight.

The women that laid the foundation for US soccer played their asses off for each other and their country. I have a ton of respect for them. Todays representatives of the US act like they’re owed everything.

Now with that said the majority of that article read like Rapinoe kicked his dog and keyed his car.

[jaadam4]

Way back in the day. Whitlock used to make decent points. This article is just right wing click bait. Comparing her to Andrew Tate (who is involved in a sex trafficking ring) I'd just done mail in lazy ass writing.

I don’t think the comparison to Tate is that far off. Both spew shit for clicks and they get it. They’re all attention whores

[dpatnod]

I don’t disagree with his overall perception of Rapinoe. Her and the rest of that team can suck it for not joining in the national anthem. It’s been pretty constant over the last few years of taking knees and taking everything away from the game to join the limelight.

Yeah, all these athletes who keep exercising their rights should be tried for Treason!