US Politics - 2020 Presidential Election - GOP v Dem cage fight (ENTER AT YOUR PERIL)

[Nick Pappageorgio]

Go fuck yourself with your false equivalency. So yeah, let's call it waht it is.

I am outraged because it is apparent what went on and people like you downplay it. My polititians? My news media? Jesus.

Who you going to believe? Your lying eyes or...

2020 riots were bad. Period. Nobody is telling you any different, but it is false equivalency, nothing more than a strawman.

Yeah…your news. With your shtick, you’re obviously not rocking Fox news. I thought that was pretty obvious. On Fox News they tell their viewers that commies like you are coming to take their liberty (and their guns) away.

my lying eyes? I suppose if you watched those sensationalized images over and over and over while Anderson cooper spoke to you what you should be feeling….you could be brainwashed into thinking that 2,500 unarmed idiots could be a threat to democracy (in the year 2021). Congratulations…I guess.

[froot loops]

I'm just laughing because this numbers argument is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard. President's and other political figures have been assassinated by individuals. This group of assholes didn't have to take over militaristic control of the government to have a potential disastrous impact. Assassinating Pence alone would have accomplished that.

Yeah, when people bring the gallows to hang Mike Pence and the Trumpers were chanting to hang Mike Pence, you don't need Anderson Cooper to tell you how to feel. It's kind of serious. They literally wanted to kill Mike Pence and Trump was mad Pence was protected by the secret service. If you don't investigate something like this then you shouldn't be investigating anything.

[CGVT]

Yeah, when people bring the gallows to hang Mike Pence and the Trumpers were chanting to hang Mike Pence, you don't need Anderson Cooper to tell you how to feel. It's kind of serious. They literally wanted to kill Mike Pence and Trump was mad Pence was protected by the secret service. If you don't investigate something like this then you shouldn't be investigating anything.

No. None of that shit happened. It was just a peaceful protest. Tourists taking selfies. You were just watching sensationalized images...

[froot loops]

It's like if you attempt to rob a bank, but you fail in the most incompetent way, the Feds don't take the chance of success into account in whether or not they arrest you.

[wcfwtf]

This thread just shows how illogical some of these takes are about events that have happened in the last 2 years.
politicians play the people as fools and the citizens bite on the bait.
many good people on here have been called names and labeled over not really knowing any one’s history or heart condition.
Im not talking about physical heart if it needs clarifying.
many people have left the forum and are not coming back.

[CGVT]

I thought they left because they couldn't face up to being so wrong about Stafford.

I'm surprised that you are back

[froot loops]

You have to appreciate his ability to modify his message ("unnamed people are driving people away") to fit any subject.

[Da Geezer]

Yeah, when people bring the gallows to hang Mike Pence and the Trumpers were chanting to hang Mike Pence, you don't need Anderson Cooper to tell you how to feel. It's kind of serious. They literally wanted to kill Mike Pence and Trump was mad Pence was protected by the secret service. If you don't investigate something like this then you shouldn't be investigating anything.

I agree.

But it would be nice if the Republicans in the House would have been able to put Republicans on the Jan 6 committee. As it is, tonight will be an infomercial for the Dems. It is also a massive in-kind donation by ABC to the Dems.

[chemiclord]

I agree.

But it would be nice if the Republicans in the House would have been able to put Republicans on the Jan 6 committee. As it is, tonight will be an infomercial for the Dems. It is also a massive in-kind donation by ABC to the Dems.

The Republicans DO have two representatives on the committee. The others they tried to push onto it were people of interest in the investigation itself, which... ya know... isn't exactly how investigations can work.

[Futureshock]

You can post all of the numbers you want.

What do you think those few people would have done if they got ahold of Pence. I'm sure cooler heads would have prevailed and they wouldn't have tried to hang him.

Or if they had gotten their hands on Pelosi, or AOC or any number of those that Trump declaired the enemy.

Jesus.

It was an attempt to over turn the election. It was an attempt to keep Trump in power

Just because they didn't succeed does not mean that it was not what it was.

I mean, who are you going to believe, Donald Trump and the Republican party (aided heavily by FOX News) or your own lying eyes?

I would have been appalled had the left stormed the Capitol. The fucking American Capitol building, God Dammit!

You should be outraged regardless of the political persuasion of the insurrectionists.

That you and so many others are not makes me fear for the future of this country. We are fucked.

And what these shortsighted jackazes can't seem to see is they showed the world, all the terrorists, that our security is not what it should be and are vulnerable. I am 100% sure that if that traitorous MOB were people from Iran or some other country or religion, that people think are out to get us, these excuses and lies wouldn't be coming from the same people.

R's stick together. Even when one is dead wrong. Well, unless one steps out of line or says something out of the party line and then it's "cut off his head"

Then they leave you guys to make stupid arguments because of their failings. That HAS to be tiring.

I have no problems calling bad on any politician, Dem or R's. None of them have done anything to where anyone should be going through that crap. And traitors are supposed to be shot.

[froot loops]

The GOP's argument about having more Republicans on the committee might have more merit if they didn't engage in bad faith bullshit when the committee was formed. Most, if not all of those fellas are interested in suppressing any info.

[Da Geezer]

The Republicans DO have two representatives on the committee. The others they tried to push onto it were people of interest in the investigation itself, which... ya know... isn't exactly how investigations can work.

So your point is that somehow, out of 210 House Rs, there could be no one found to sit on the committee other than the two most rabid anti-Trump people. The Speaker rejected any other actual R from being on the committee. If the Ds have 7 members on the committee, the Rs should get 6.

It seems to me that even the most hyper-partisan Dem would want the committee to follow House rules, that is, if the actual purpose of the committee were to find out about Jan 6.

The actual purpose of the committee is to brand Trump an insurrectionist and make him unable to run in 2024. I dislike Trump totally and I hope he doesn't run, but this is not the way to stop him.

[froot loops]

And what these shortsighted jackazes can't seem to see is they showed the world, all the terrorists, that our security is not what it should be and are vulnerable. I am 100% sure that if that traitorous MOB were people from Iran or some other country or religion, that people think are out to get us, these excuses and lies wouldn't be coming from the same people.

R's stick together. Even when one is dead wrong. Well, unless one steps out of line or says something out of the party line and then it's "cut off his head"

Then they leave you guys to make stupid arguments because of their failings. That HAS to be tiring.

I have no problems calling bad on any politician, Dem or R's. None of them have done anything to where anyone should be going through that crap. And traitors are supposed to be shot.

Futureshock brings up a very good point in regards to security. The country spent 20 years making air travel ponderous and the January 6th showed a pretty big, gaping hole in the defense of the capitol. They got really lucky that some quick thinking policeman thwarted it. You don't want the Capitol to be maximum security but coordination of it's defense should be better.

[froot loops]

Trump's actions were pro-insurrection, his followers were pro-insurrection. The committee didn't storm the capitol, the committee did exhort his followers to march to the capitol and "Fight like hell!" If there was no evidence like voluminous text messages and phone calls, there wouldn't be much to present.

[JGSpartan]

So your point is that somehow, out of 210 House Rs, there could be no one found to sit on the committee other than the two most rabid anti-Trump people. The Speaker rejected any other actual R from being on the committee. If the Ds have 7 members on the committee, the Rs should get 6.

It seems to me that even the most hyper-partisan Dem would want the committee to follow House rules, that is, if the actual purpose of the committee were to find out about Jan 6.

The actual purpose of the committee is to brand Trump an insurrectionist and make him unable to run in 2024. I dislike Trump totally and I hope he doesn't run, but this is not the way to stop him.

The problem with this is that again, you just aren't working with the truth.

McCarthy appointed his 5 members to the committee Jim Jordan of Ohio, Jim Banks of Indiana and Rodney Davis of Illinois, Kelly Armstrong of North Dakota and Troy Nehls of Texas

Pelosi only rejected Jordan and Banks because of their being targets of the investigation. Instead of picking two more McCarthy pulled the rest and refused to nominate more. Cheney and Kinzinger went against that.

All of this is after the senate refused to pass an independent bipartisan investigation that wouldn't include any representatives of either party and had passed the house with 34 republican votes but could only get 6 senators when it needed 10.

This committee doesn't include more Republicans because they wanted it that way. They chose to not take part specifically so they could paint it as one-sided to people like you who won't bother to look into the facts as to how it got there.