US Politics - 2020 Presidential Election - GOP v Dem cage fight (ENTER AT YOUR PERIL)

[Blue Lagoon58]

The US may have complained from time to time about Europe not spending enough on their military but the US was content to be the big dog. The US loves to spend on defense! Speaking like it's OK for Putin to reanimate the Russian empire is total fucking madness.

Not to mention, if the complaints have been around since Eisenhower....well, America is still kicking after all those years, I think we'll be okay. Don't know what an extra couple hundred billions will do for us. All just BS, like everything else he says.

[Sanders Fan]

A couple hundred billion would be great. They could spend it on veterans or any other number of things. We don’t spend enough on domestic and too much on defense spending.

[Whitley]

A couple hundred billion would be great. They could spend it on veterans or any other number of things. We don’t spend enough on domestic and too much on defense spending.

This is true. THe Pentagon could not accounted for 60%of their funds in the last audit (they got 868 BILLION last year). If you cut that 30% of that you get 260.4 billion dollars. 175 million Americans made less that 70k in 2022 (latest data) you could write a check for $1488 to every single American (that supported

OR

You could fully fund the CTC up to $3600 per child for 97 billion per year (still have 163.4 billion left)

Give everyone on Medicare hearing and vision care 119.1 billion per year (still have 44.3 billion left)

Universal free school lunch 28.7 billion per year (still have 15.6 billion left)

If you did 40% cut (and extra 86.8 billion)

then you could add

Free College (US gov covers the cost of tution after all financial aid is awarded) that would be 77 billion a year (after a first year of 58 billion) (24.7 billion left)

[Marko69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMpwbPglkfM

[Sanders Fan]

This is true. THe Pentagon could not accounted for 60%of their funds in the last audit (they got 868 BILLION last year). If you cut that 30% of that you get 260.4 billion dollars. 175 million Americans made less that 70k in 2022 (latest data) you could write a check for $1488 to every single American (that supported

OR

You could fully fund the CTC up to $3600 per child for 97 billion per year (still have 163.4 billion left)

Give everyone on Medicare hearing and vision care 119.1 billion per year (still have 44.3 billion left)

Universal free school lunch 28.7 billion per year (still have 15.6 billion left)

If you did 40% cut (and extra 86.8 billion)

then you could add

Free College (US gov covers the cost of tution after all financial aid is awarded) that would be 77 billion a year (after a first year of 58 billion) (24.7 billion left)

The Pentagon spends so much money on black projects, I think it’s like 20% of the defense budget. Some of that spending in the past was on bullshit Iike remote viewing. They probably had guys try to bend spoons like Uri Geller too.

[Whitley]

The Pentagon spends so much money on black projects, I think it’s like 20% of the defense budget. Some of that spending in the past was on bullshit Iike remote viewing. They probably had guys try to bend spoons like Uri Geller too.

That might be 20%. There is another 40% they can't account for. If you can't account for it then you don't need it.

[JGSpartan]

I think there's a misunderstanding here about the amount of money unaccounted for. That percentage isn't the amount of money accounted for it's the percentage of total funds that are in DOD agencies that met compliance.

So 40 percent or whatever are in agencies that aren't compliant. Compliance is also not just about a total money number either.

Whatever the number of actual unaccounted money is, it's significantly lower than 40 percent.

[Sanders Fan]

Well, the only way for the government to fix that is to generate more tax revenue. /s

[Whitley]

I think there's a misunderstanding here about the amount of money unaccounted for. That percentage isn't the amount of money accounted for it's the percentage of total funds that are in DOD agencies that met compliance.

So 40 percent or whatever are in agencies that aren't compliant. Compliance is also not just about a total money number either.

Whatever the number of actual unaccounted money is, it's significantly lower than 40 percent.

The last audit, the 6th consecutive year of failing, says they could not account for 63% of their assets. They have no timeline proposed to actually pass the audits they are mandated to have

If you have no idea where 63% of your assets are then the reality is that you don't need that money.

[JGSpartan]

I found the article you're likely referring to and it's full of errors.

It says 61 percent in 2022 and links to the DOD statement that reports 39 percent of assets were in departments that passed audit. Meaning 61 percent of assets belonged to non passing departments.

It then states 63 percent for 2023 while linking to the audit itself and specifically the department results. If you do the math on how many didn't pass audit, that's where the 63 percent number comes from.

The problem with that is that it's not 63 percent of assets in those departments, It's 50 percent. According to Michael McCord. The CFO of the DOD, who was the source the writer used for the information for 2022.

So we went from 39 percent of assets in departments with favorable opinions in 2022 to 50 percent in 2023.

Which means 50 percent of those assets are in departments with unfavorable opinions. An unfavorable opinion does mean all of that money is missing.

Those departments being found to have below standards accounting practices is certainly a bad thing. But it's nowhere near as bad as you are thinking it is.

[dpatnod]

Success!!!!!!!!!! They have the people quiblling about the details while they hoard the spoils!!!!!

[Whitley]

I found the article you're likely referring to and it's full of errors.

It says 61 percent in 2022 and links to the DOD statement that reports 39 percent of assets were in departments that passed audit. Meaning 61 percent of assets belonged to non passing departments.

It then states 63 percent for 2023 while linking to the audit itself and specifically the department results. If you do the math on how many didn't pass audit, that's where the 63 percent number comes from.

The problem with that is that it's not 63 percent of assets in those departments, It's 50 percent. According to Michael McCord. The CFO of the DOD, who was the source the writer used for the information for 2022.

So we went from 39 percent of assets in departments with favorable opinions in 2022 to 50 percent in 2023.

Which means 50 percent of those assets are in departments with unfavorable opinions. An unfavorable opinion does mean all of that money is missing.

Those departments being found to have below standards accounting practices is certainly a bad thing. But it's nowhere near as bad as you are thinking it is.

Great then can still claw back 30-40 percent of their budget
The American people can use it much better.

[chemiclord]

Success!!!!!!!!!! They have the people quiblling about the details while they hoard the spoils!!!!!

There's a degree where "the details" matter. If you act on flawed or incorrect information, things rarely get better.

But sure, in this case, with a bunch of people who will nigh assuredly never be in a position to act on this things, it's not as vital to hammer out "okay, exactly how much money is our military industry wasting?"

[Marko69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILFoRh6Cdt4

[chemiclord]

Ya know, for all the people who say they wish this wasn't happening... it sure as hell looks like the two people no one liked won their respective party's nomination with landslide support.