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  • Originally posted by Sanders Fan View Post
    Biden is taking tough about the border now because it’s the biggest anchor on his re-election hopes. He wasn’t hawkish at all on the border when he took office.
    Biden administration has continued a lot of the Trump border policies including Title 42 until the courts said he couldn't do it anymore.

    The biggest anchor to his reelection hopes is his cosigning on everything Isreal is doing in Gaza. That policy has cost him Michigan and Georgia.

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    • Originally posted by klondike View Post
      I'd vote for Bernie! He's just the opposite end of Trump but both are more for the everypeople and not shills for the establishment. When he says he'd tax everyone who makes over 400,000, it's not just b.s. politicos.
      ^^^^This. That is why he would have beaten Trump in 2016. Bernie is an actual economic populist. Trump was cosplaying as one in 2016.
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      • Originally posted by Whitley View Post

        Biden administration has continued a lot of the Trump border policies including Title 42 until the courts said he couldn't do it anymore.

        The biggest anchor to his reelection hopes is his cosigning on everything Isreal is doing in Gaza. That policy has cost him Michigan and Georgia.
        I don’t think Biden is losing either of those states. Union people in Michigan will vote blue and Georgia is almost blue now instead of purple due to demographic shifts. Saying that though, if any Republican besides Trump were the nominee, Biden would be toast.
        Last edited by Sanders Fan; January 31, 2024, 03:26 PM.
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        • Nikki Haley for sure. Ron DeSantis was a completely unlikeable boob who's far right Florida experiment would not play nationally. He can't inspire the same fanaticism as Trump and he wouldn't get center voters.

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          • Originally posted by Whitley View Post

            Biden administration has continued a lot of the Trump border policies including Title 42 until the courts said he couldn't do it anymore.

            The biggest anchor to his reelection hopes is his cosigning on everything Isreal is doing in Gaza. That policy has cost him Michigan and Georgia.
            LOL, he hasn't cost himself Michigan or Georgia. It's January FFS.

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            • Originally posted by Mainevent View Post
              Nikki Haley for sure. Ron DeSantis was a completely unlikeable boob who's far right Florida experiment would not play nationally. He can't inspire the same fanaticism as Trump and he wouldn't get center voters.
              Ron lost the plot when he started banning books from schools. Parents should decide what their kids read, not politicians.
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              • Originally posted by Mainevent View Post

                Trump's literally trying to crash bipartisan legislation on the border because he doesn't want the other side to get a win. But honestly, if you are looking at Biden as the driving force in dividing our country and not the guy running around giving speeches about poisoning the blood of our country and accusing anybody who isn't abjectly worshipful of him a disloyal traitor and enemy, then I don't know what to say.
                Biden and his administration have spent the last 3 years trying to put his direct political opponent in prison. Lol you can't get much more divisive than that. Trump could have done the same to Hilary after he was elected. But he did not. He simply moved on focused on more important things. It seems most of the members here spend too much time watching CNN. All of your talking points are worn out by them. Many would benefit from getting their news and facts from somewhere other than the extremely biased liberal media.

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                • Yeah ok buddy. Hope you enjoy your Newsmax.

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                  • Originally posted by lionsfan20 View Post

                    Biden and his administration have spent the last 3 years trying to put his direct political opponent in prison. Lol you can't get much more divisive than that. Trump could have done the same to Hilary after he was elected. But he did not. He simply moved on focused on more important things. It seems most of the members here spend too much time watching CNN. All of your talking points are worn out by them. Many would benefit from getting their news and facts from somewhere other than the extremely biased liberal media.
                    LOL

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                    • I won’t vote for Trump (or maybe anyone for president). but I don’t think it does any favors to “free and fair elections” when liberal states are trying to kick Trump off the ballot. That doesn’t tone down the division at all, it only incites it. As far I understand, a felon can be elected president.
                      Last edited by Sanders Fan; January 31, 2024, 05:31 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by Sanders Fan View Post

                        Ron lost the plot when he started banning books from schools. Parents should decide what their kids read, not politicians.
                        I don't understand this logic. I agree parents should choose what their kids read. Which is exactly the problem. When certain inappropriate books are available in schools parents have no control. And many teachers encourage students to read these books. Parents don't know or control what happens daily in schools. I know this all to well as I have 2 kids in elementary school myself. Why do we need these books in schools? If parents want their kids to read these books they can read them with their children at home. Why do we need books describing gay sex for example in an elementary school? Especially in kindergarten to 5th grade where these books were "banned". Keep in mind they are still available by request for students above 5th grade or with parents permission anyway. Personally I don't want the government or my children's school teaching my kids anything about sex. That is our job as parents. And we read appropriate books and talk about these subjects with our kids when we feel the time is right.

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                        • Although certain Americans who receive their daily news from television and social media may not realize it, President Joe Biden has already accomplished an incredible amount in his two-plus years in office. These accomplishments are of great importance to the people of our nation and the world. A dozen major accomplishments follow:

                          1. President Biden fought for and signed the American Rescue Plan which protected workers’ pensions, provided funding to communities and businesses devastated by COVID-19, lowered or eliminated insurance premiums for millions of lower- and middle-income families, provided funds for affordable housing, provided money for public safety and crime reduction, provided support to small business, expanded food assistance programs in homes and schools, expanded child care programs, invested in mental health and health care centers, added $40 billion for investing in American workers, provided funding to the economies of tribal nations, and supported families with children. Child poverty has already been cut in half as a result of his efforts.

                          2. He signed a $1 trillion infrastructure bill to repair our roads, waterways, bridges and railroads, and bring high-speed internet to rural communities. Also included is money for public transit and airports, electric vehicles and low emission public transportation, power infrastructure, and clean water.

                          3. Biden signed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. This law provides incentives for states to pass red flag laws, expands the law that prevents people convicted of domestic abuse from gun ownership, expands background checks on young people between 18 and 21 who want to buy a gun, and allocates funds for the mental health of young people.

                          4. He instituted an executive order raising standards for law enforcement agencies, with particular emphasis on use-of-force policies, availability of body cameras, and recruitment and retention of officers.

                          5. He brought the unemployment rate down to a low of 3.5%, matching the lowest rate before the pandemic. Biden’s administration has added 13.2 million jobs since he came into office, replacing all of the jobs that were lost at the beginning of the COVID pandemic. Today there are more people in America working today than ever before!

                          6. He signed a bill to help veterans who have long been suffering from the effects of burn pits.

                          7. Biden ended the war in Afghanistan, the longest war in U.S. history. Over 120,000 people were safely evacuated, double the number calculated by the most optimistic experts.

                          8. He has steadfastly supported Ukraine after this democratic country was unjustly invaded by Putin and Russia, and has successfully led the free world by lobbying NATO and other allies to add their financial and military support.

                          9. He signed the Inflation Reduction Act, making health insurance plans more affordable, lowering drug costs, preventing millions of Americans from losing their Affordable Care Act insurance, and requiring Medicare to negotiate the cost of 10 high-cost prescription drugs.

                          10. Biden signed the CHIPS and Science Act, providing funding to produce semiconductor chips for automobiles, cellphones, laptops, gaming consoles, washing machines, etc. here in the Unites States rather than continuing to rely on China.

                          11. His administration has provided over $369 million to reduce greenhouse emissions by 40% in the next seven years and promote clean energy technologies, moving our country to greater self-sufficiency in energy production.

                          12. He signed the Postal Service Reform Act to modernize and stabilize the U.S. Post Office and also to help it continue to deliver mail six days every week, focusing on on-time delivery.

                          Other accomplishments include the reestablishment of respect among our allies on the world stage, the Violence Against Women Act, the Respect for Marriage Act, pardoning those convicted of simple marijuana possession, appointing Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson (the first Black woman on the Supreme Court), forgiving certain student loans, and electoral reforms to ensure that election results are not undermined.

                          These significant accomplishments reveal the Biden administration as an extremely progressive, productive administration — one that has already had a dramatic and very positive impact on all Americans.
                          I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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                          • As confirmed by http://FactCheck.org, the U.S. under Trump lost 2.9 million jobs, saw unemployment rise to 6.3 percent, and added $7.8 trillion in debt. Under Biden, we added 13.2 million jobs, the unemployment rate is 3.7 percent and reduced the deficit by $6.3 trillion.​
                            I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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                            • Originally posted by Sanders Fan View Post
                              I won’t vote for Trump (or maybe anyone for president). but I don’t think it does any favors to “free and fair elections” when liberal states are trying to kick Trump off the ballot. That doesn’t tone down the division at all, it only incites it. As far I understand, a felon can be elected president.
                              Agreed. Let the voters decide. If trump is such a terrible person and that is obvious then he will never get re-elected. It really sets a terrible precedence even if it is justified. Politicians will simply try to eliminate their opponents from contention if this ends up being successful. Then the ones with the most money or influence will always control the election results. That is some 3rd world stuff right there.

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                              • Criminals belong in jails.
                                I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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