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The GOP wants to prevent women from having independent careers and contribute to a capitalist society, yet blame immigrants for taking the jobs from the women who have to take care of their children while leaving the workforce. The truth is young people can’t afford kids along with a mortgage. That’s reality. Daycare is a fucking racket in itself.
I’m not sure that having children is this big obstacle that you’re saying it is here, it’s not 1950. I work with lots of women…most have children. When I was teaching…90% of teachers have kids (and someone is always pregnant). I don’t think that logic works in 2020, it died in the 80s. Women in the workforce has been as good for the GOP as it has been for the donkeys….everyone like productivity
It’s about pandering to religious voters.
But again…and I can’t stress this enough….this is really about unwillingness to compromise.
And I know people want to jump all over anyone questioning results…..but if you don’t want anyone questioning the results of elections, we need to stop the type of shit that’s going down in Arizona right now. To be straight I’m not saying there impropriety….just that it looks sketchy to me and invites questions. If you want to stop “election denying”, that sort of shit needs to get sorted.
For starters….allowing the governor candidate be the top official overseeing her own election is a bad look. Even if what’s going on is just incompetence….why not recuse that person to remove the obvious specter of impropriety?
The dems need to clean that shit up if you want to keep claiming that anyone who questions election results also believes in Bigfoot.
Plus I have been around women that have the hots for me and I tell them don’t get pregnant.
Do they listen?. No.
They go home have sex with their Husband or boyfriend and end up pregnant. Proving that they can get pregnant just by someone standing next to them.😂
And I know people want to jump all over anyone questioning results…..but if you don’t want anyone questioning the results of elections, we need to stop the type of shit that’s going down in Arizona right now. To be straight I’m not saying there impropriety….just that it looks sketchy to me and invites questions. If you want to stop “election denying”, that sort of shit needs to get sorted.
For starters….allowing the governor candidate be the top official overseeing her own election is a bad look. Even if what’s going on is just incompetence….why not recuse that person to remove the obvious specter of impropriety?
The dems need to clean that shit up if you want to keep claiming that anyone who questions election results also believes in Bigfoot.
It's bullshit in today's age, states like Nevada and Arizona take up to a week after the elections to reveal a winner. All the other states had their results in that night. Wtf is going on in these states.
So far only 70% of the Arizona vote has been counted.
To understand why that is, you have to zoom in to Maricopa county, which covers the state capital, Phoenix. It contains 60% of all votes in Arizona and is the second largest voting jurisdiction in the nation.
The number of people who vote early has increased dramatically since the pandemic. This year Maricopa county also saw a surge in the number of early ballots that were dropped off on election day – they are known as “late earlies” – rising to 290,000, the largest number in the state’s history and 100,000 more than in 2020.
Each early ballot has to be verified to check that the voter’s signature matches the signature in the voter rolls, and after that is done it is sent to a bipartisan panel for approval and processing. That all takes time, as we are witnessing.
Many people have drawn a comparison of Arizona’s vote count with that of Florida, which called its results within hours of polls closing on Tuesday. That state’s system allows election officials to begin counting mail-in ballots as soon as they are received; mail-in ballots have to be requested and must be received by an election supervisor no later than 7pm on election day.
I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
There were some Republican activists in Arizona who advocated that voters intentionally wait until Election Day itself to drop off their ballots. Some of this push was based on unfounded theories that fraudsters could manipulate voting systems and rig results for Democrats, once they had seen how many GOP votes had been returned early.
Experts had also warned that such a last-minute crush of ballots could end up creating delays that can ultimately be used by a bad actor to undermine confidence in the election. There were some hang ups this year. About a quarter of voting centers in Maricopa County, Arizona's most populous, had a printing problem Tuesday, in which marks weren't showing up correctly when voters showed up to print out their ballots.
The issue ultimately got rectified, and election officials assured voters that every ballot would be counted.
Most Arizona counties don't count ballots in-house, with officials instead bringing them to a central facility. Maricopa County officials count drop box ballots at their central facility, which was the scene of protests by hundreds of Trump supporters, some of whom were armed, after his 2020 election loss.
WHY DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?
There was intense scrutiny on Arizona's processes, rules and counting after the 2020 election, when Joe Biden notched his slimmest margin of victory in the state, becoming the first Democratic presidential hopeful to win Arizona since 1996.
In the weeks after that election, though, there were myriad protests and court challenges to the results.
In 2016, a decision to reduce the number of Maricopa County's polling places during the presidential preference primary resulted in hours-long lines that caused some voters to leave the polls without casting their ballots.
In primary elections two years later, dozens of county polling places weren’t set up and ready to accept voters when polls were supposed to open, resulting in cascading issues throughout the day.
But there was no evidence of widespread fraud.
WHEN DO WE GET NEW NUMBERS?
Officials estimated there were about 320,000 Maricopa County votes left to count after a chunk of 80,000 was posted late Thursday. Tens of thousands of those were ballots that came in on Election Day itself — votes known in some places as “late earlies,” the counting of which has been known to hold up tabulation.
In all of Arizona, officials said there are nearly 500,000 ballots left to count, with the margin in the governor's race sitting at just under 27,000 votes.
About 17,000 ballots — or about 7% of those cast in person on Election Day — were set aside due to the problem with printers at about a quarter of the county’s vote tabulation centers. A judge denied a request from Republicans to keep the polls open, saying he didn’t see evidence that people were not allowed to vote, and officials said those votes would be tallied throughout the week.
I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
If CNN told you piss was lemonade you’d get on your knees to drink from the fountain.
Watching an election process that is clearly inferior to 48 other states (almost all larger), Puerto Rico, Brazil, and a number of other 3rd world countries….and questioning “what’s going on here” is a fair fucking question. One that the Democratic Party leadership in AZ has had ample time to fix.
Go back and read my post, for comprehension this time, and you’d read that I’m saying they need to fix any appearance of impropriety.
But if you’re against the election counting process going fairly, smoothly, and expeditiously….I’d love to hear why (but then you’d probably just copy and paste an opinion from the Huffington post, so don’t waste your time).
They only counted 80,000 votes yesterday? If CA or NY adopted AZ’s counting process (which one can only assume includes fingers and toes) they wouldn’t be done counting until next year.
Election workers sort ballots at the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center on Nov. 9, 2022, in Phoenix. Photo by John Moore | Getty Images
Why can’t Arizona be more like Florida? In the last few days, this has become a common refrain.
“How come Florida w/ population of 22 million can get same day election results and Arizona w/ population of 7 million can’t?” Greta Van Susteren tweeted Thursday.
This article was originally published by Votebeat, a nonprofit news organization covering local election administration and voting access.
Florida had posted the vast majority of election results by the end of the night on Election Day. But on Thursday afternoon, Arizona still had a substantial quantity of ballots outstanding. Maricopa County, where more than half of voters live, was estimating it still had 26% of ballots to count
On “The Charlie Kirk Show,” gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake said that the state was intentionally delaying the results to “pour cold water on this movement.” To which her opponent, Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, tweeted that the speed at which results were coming in was “exactly what we expected.”
Here we have two swing states, with widespread mail-in voting, and similar laws. So, why is Florida so much faster?
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The main difference: Florida doesn’t have an avalanche of mail ballots on Election Day. The state doesn’t allow mail voters to drop off their ballots anywhere but the county elections office on Tuesday.
Arizona does, and Maricopa County voters took advantage of late voting this year more than ever before. The county received 290,000 mail-in ballots on Election Day, according to County Supervisors Chairman Bill Gates, the most ever, and a 70% increase from 2020’s general election. That includes mail-in ballots sent in the mail, or dropped off at a vote center or drop box.
The voter signatures on the envelopes of those mail-in ballots take time for county workers to verify.
Florida is already done verifying those signatures before Election Day. Mark Earley, supervisor of elections in Leon County, Florida, explains it like this: “By election morning, we have processed roughly 95% of our (mail-in ballots), tabulated them, and the results are sitting there waiting to be uploaded into our election management system, and compiled and released promptly after 7 p.m. on election night.”
Florida also has no choice but to count quickly. Florida law requires, with some exceptions, counties to finish counting early ballots by 7 p.m. the day before the Election Day, and requires those results to be posted within 30 minutes of polls closing.
There is also one major difference in how Florida counties process mail-in ballots. Florida counties have in-house scanners that process the ballot envelopes. Maricopa County does not. Election workers must pack the ballots up to be sent in their original envelopes to a separate facility in Phoenix, owned by Runbeck Election Services, to be scanned.
This transfer of ballots takes a long time. Richer tweeted that it took his team five hours, from midnight on Election Day to 5 a.m. Wednesday, to prepare the 290,000 mail-in ballot envelopes to send to Runbeck to have them scanned. The scanning process there also takes time. Votebeat reporter Jen Fifield’s ballot, dropped off at a vote center on Election Day, wasn’t scanned — indicating it was officially received — until 6:11 p.m. Wednesday, according to a text from the county’s ballot tracking system.
After scanning, Runbeck sends the ballots back to the county and signature verification can begin. Richer tweeted that the county had started verifying signatures by 7 a.m. Wednesday on the Election Day mail ballots they had received back. They come back in rounds from Runbeck, he said.
Gates defended the time it was taking the county to count ballots at a Thursday news conference. The county’s election workers are working long hours, he said.
“Quite frankly, it is offensive for Kari Lake to say that these people behind me are slow-rolling it when they are working 14 to 18 hours,” Gates said.
Richer said the county has made its signature verification process more rigorous, after getting concerns after 2020’s election that it was done too quickly.
But he also pointed out that it was normal to not know the results of tight races by now. He wasn’t certain he had won his race for county recorder in 2020 until the week after the election, he said.
His opponent at the time, Adrian Fontes, the former county recorder who is now running as the Democratic candidate for secretary of state, also defended Maricopa County’s process in a tweet on Thursday, saying that the county had been counting early ballots for over two weeks “because they’re careful and thorough.”
“When hundreds of thousands show up on the last day, requiring that same careful process … results will take time,” Fontes wrote. “It’s ok. Better correct than quick.”
Richer tweeted that, as the number dropped off on Election Day grows, “we will likely want to have a policy conversation about which we value more: convenience of dropping off early ballot on election day or higher percentage of returns with 24 hours of Election Night.”
Asked if he thinks the state should change its laws, Richer said at the news conference Thursday that “it would have been nice” to get the mail-in ballots sooner.
When someone tweeted at him that Arizona “should take lessons from states that actually figured out how to do it efficiently and adjust their methods,” Richer said he agreed.
“We should take a good look at some of these laws and methods,” he wrote.
But Gates said Thursday he isn’t sure he would want to change the laws. He said there are positives to allowing voters to turn in their mail-in ballots so late. Like skipping lines on Election Day.
I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
If you were running for governor and your opponent was the person in charge of coordinating voting and counting….do you think it would have been more appropriate if that person recused themselves? Especially considering the level of incompetence on display in 2020.
I don’t understand how the person running for the highest office in the state is also the person counting the votes (maybe the only one based on how slow this is going). That would be like a sporting event where the ref was also the HC for one of the teams.
Maybe there’s nothing going on…but it looks shady and improper. Had everything gone smoothly maybe we’re not having this conversation.
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