US Politics - 2020 Presidential Election - GOP v Dem cage fight (ENTER AT YOUR PERIL)

[klondike]

Obama's votes vs Biden's as a percentage of the population are 22.7 and 24.2 percent respectively. Only a 1.5 percent increase for biden. This isn't the major difference you think it is. McCain vs Trump 2020 was also a 1.5 percent increase. Turnout was up for the red team too, were they fake?

What I'm saying is what perplexed Trump and I'm sure along with his many supporters. How could someone "like Biden" beat me? I know you have a ready answer but it's a good one. How could someone who couldn't muster up 100 supporters at his rallies ( I remember in Arizona, seeing a vacant parking lot) compared to 20-30 thousands at Trump rallies, get so many votes. Much of them after midnight when Trump had a nice lead on election night. You can see how it may have lead many to believe Trump got bamboozled and considering the mainstream media is a shill for democrats you are not going to get the fair story.

Dems call it the Big Lie. I'm still not convinced. You can mock me but like I said, you have the advantage of the media doing everything to quell and cover up.

I've heard a few media even admit "if it happened, so be it. Keeping a fascist out of the White House is worth cheating".

[dpatnod]

Pssst. Hey.

The number of idiots paying to be packed into super-spreader rally events doesn't determine election results.

[JGSpartan]

What I'm saying is what perplexed Trump and I'm sure along with his many supporters. How could someone "like Biden" beat me? I know you have a ready answer but it's a good one. How could someone who couldn't muster up 100 supporters at his rallies ( I remember in Arizona, seeing a vacant parking lot) compared to 20-30 thousands at Trump rallies, get so many votes. Much of them after midnight when Trump had a nice lead on election night. You can see how it may have lead many to believe Trump got bamboozled and considering the mainstream media is a shill for democrats you are not going to get the fair story.

Dems call it the Big Lie. I'm still not convinced. You can mock me but like I said, you have the advantage of the media doing everything to quell and cover up.

I've heard a few media even admit "if it happened, so be it. Keeping a fascist out of the White House is worth cheating".

It's really that hard to believe people were motivated to vote against Trump? You have people on this forum telling you that's the case. I'm not going to speak for them but it's certainly the case for me. I'm not a big Biden fan and probably wouldn't have voted for him if not for the shitshow Trump was. You would have to be incredibly insulated from information if you are unaware of how hated Trump is.

What source are you getting what you believe to be the real facts from?

[chemiclord]

1) Your bullshit about "rallies" mean less than fuck all because Biden was actively avoiding doing rallies and when he did intentionally limited how many people could be in attendance, because we were in the middle of a damn pandemic!

2) Of course the lead switched "after midnight" in a lot of "key states," because despite what our media loves to do on election night, no state is even remotely close to being finished with their counts at the end of Election Day. Usually it takes about three days or so for vote to be counted, verified, and then certified with their Secretary of State. What the media loves to dabble in are the preliminary reports of the "first pass," which is very rarely complete and doesn't include any ballot that has some sort of flaw that doesn't allow it to be machine counted. And in many states, that's before any mail-in or absentee ballots are counted.

Honestly, the media calling states and the election by the end of the night is one of the most reckless and irresponsible things they do. I have no doubt that eventually "Dewey Defeats Truman" is going to happen again, and once it does... holy fuck is it going to be a disaster.

[JGSpartan]

Republicans in 2020 pre-election day: Mail in Voting isn't secure, if you want your vote to count, vote in person.

Republicans after election day: Why are most of these mail-in votes for Biden? It doesn't make any sense!?!?!?

[Iron Lion]

What I'm saying is what perplexed Trump and I'm sure along with his many supporters. How could someone "like Biden" beat me? I know you have a ready answer but it's a good one. How could someone who couldn't muster up 100 supporters at his rallies ( I remember in Arizona, seeing a vacant parking lot) compared to 20-30 thousands at Trump rallies, get so many votes. Much of them after midnight when Trump had a nice lead on election night. You can see how it may have lead many to believe Trump got bamboozled and considering the mainstream media is a shill for democrats you are not going to get the fair story.

Dems call it the Big Lie. I'm still not convinced. You can mock me but like I said, you have the advantage of the media doing everything to quell and cover up.

I've heard a few media even admit "if it happened, so be it. Keeping a fascist out of the White House is worth cheating".

Lol Trump rallies. I remember the Tulsa one where my Trumper parents texted me manipulated photos of crowds that "couldn't get in because there were no seats." Meanwhile they packed everyone into the lower bowl for the TV broadcast and the upper bowl was totally empty. Trump literally swears up and down that the count was double what the fire dept said it was, as if there were turnstiles and Trump literally counted every turnstile, thinking that everyone went in and nobody went back out.

And then the Arizona rally. Lol. "Covid-19, what a funny word. What does it even mean? Who knows. Who comes up with such a thing?" Either too stupid to spend five seconds Googling, too arrogant to ask, or - and this is what I think it is - he just realizes his supporters are that stupid.

Story time. My GF listens to old radio broadcasts. Aside from the racism and pro-cigarette stuff, one thing stands out. Their commercials. Their commercials are just pure appeals to logic. "Buy our product for reasons X, Y, and Z." "4/5 dentists recommend our toothpaste." Etc. Nowadays it's "Here's a fuckin bunny, buy our shit." Because people aren't logical, rational creatures. People are fuckin stupid and if you want to appeal to them, be stupid! Commercials figured this out. It seems that politicians never did. They keep getting their JD degrees from ivy schools and attempting to speak eloquently. And then uh. Well. Enter Donald Trump. The red-neck, yellow-belly, orange-faced moron. He does know one thing though. He knows how to talk stupid and how to talk to stupid people. You've heard of the horse whisperer? Trump is the ultimate stupid whisperer. He is an absolute magnet for stupidity. And just like in advertising, this is what actually reaches people. Because this is a democracy and stupid people vote.

Everyone else though knows stupid when they see it. Particularly us Lions fans - even the less perceptive of us have seen enough Millen to know stupid when we see it.

So in conclusion, Trump lies about his rallies, but yes, he does get stupid people to go there. Finding stupid people isn't the hard part. That's easy. They are EVERYWHERE. What he's done is bring politics to their level. And you're surprised he has people at his rallies?

[dpatnod]

LOL. That particular stupid started day one with his 'Yuge inauguration crowd'.

[klondike]

You want to keep talking abouts Trump. 2 years in and it's all we can do.I was ready to move on and then the never ending saga of the Jan. 6th hearings and now the FBI shit. So tell me. Why on earth can't the media and people stop talking and worshiping orange man. Oh, I see Darklord Biden has gotten a second wind. Up to 49% now. I just have to ask, why does Biden needs a a second wind. If he was the most popular man on earth(his words). What happened to the first wind. I know. I'm boring everyone with Biden talk. Only Trump all the time. Sorry.

[dpatnod]

Tissue?

[Iron Lion]

You want to keep talking abouts Trump. 2 years in and it's all we can do.I was ready to move on and then the never ending saga of the Jan. 6th hearings and now the FBI shit. So tell me. Why on earth can't the media and people stop talking and worshiping orange man. Oh, I see Darklord Biden has gotten a second wind. Up to 49% now. I just have to ask, why does Biden needs a a second wind. If he was the most popular man on earth(his words). What happened to the first wind. I know. I'm boring everyone with Biden talk. Only Trump all the time. Sorry.

I know right, this Jan 6 nonsense needs to end. It's not like Jan 6 was the first time in history that the Confederate flag breeched the Capitol by force. It's not like government computers and documents were stolen. And Trump? Why do we keep talking about the orange man? Hmm, well, cults tend to get the clicks. Mostly suicide cults grab our attention. Although there aren't any "Die for Donald" dumbasses out there - yet - we do have a cult with tens of millions of people. That's going to "trump" news cycles.

[klondike]

We keep talking about Jan 6 because it's so rare to see a conservative riot that the country wants to milk it for everything it's worth. That inserection was lame. Really. No one was killed cept a rioter. No fires or guns were ever drawn. They call it a coo. A bunch of geriatric and wackjobs roaming the Capital with nothing to do but take pictures. So scary and laughable when the Vice Pres compares it to 9-11 and the Civil War.

The left burned down police offices and federal buildings. People died and businesses gone, whole blocks of cities taken over, yet they are forgotten. I'll give them that, the left know how to have a propper riot and inscrection. The Right needs work and theirs are really lame. Once again. The media can create and destroy a good story and Jan. 6 is their honeypot. Especially, in Uncle Joe's down spell after the Afghanistan fiasco, it distracted everyone for the whole summer into mid terms. Nice going. A++ you guys. You definitely want it more than the Republicans. I wish the Lions had half of your resolve.

[Da Geezer]

Voting is not just a right. It is the entire foundation of what America is.

Photo ID being required is absolutely not constitutional because the constitution was written a century before the first photograph was taken and there has been no amendment related to photography.

I'm all for requiring a photo ID to vote, provided that we also eliminate the electoral college. What do you say?

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Photo ID has been found constitutional every time it has been tested (at least where there is no cost to obtaining one).

I suspect you are one of those who are too lazy or stupid to get one. Your call for a constitutional amendment in order to ALLOW photo ID supports my point (that you are lazy or stupid). What you really want is for me to pay higher taxes so you can vote yourself more and better welfare.

I develop real estate in CA. I've seen what it is. They allow EVERYONE to vote if you even look 18. This is democracy to you, but it turns into one-party rule of the welfare/public sector union base of the Dem party.

The EC protects citizens of the other states from being ruled by California. Hillary ran up a 3+million vote majority in CA in 2016. That would have been closer to one million had CA had the same fraud-prevention measures as Delaware.

[Da Geezer]

We keep talking about Jan 6 because it's so rare to see a conservative riot that the country wants to milk it for everything it's worth. That inserection was lame. Really. No one was killed cept a rioter. No fires or guns were ever drawn. They call it a coup. A bunch of geriatric and wackjobs roaming the Capital with nothing to do but take pictures. So scary and laughable when the Vice Pres compares it to 9-11 and the Civil War.

The left burned down police offices and federal buildings. People died and businesses gone, whole blocks of cities taken over, yet they are forgotten. I'll give them that, the left know how to have a proper riot and insurrection. The Right needs work and theirs are really lame. Once again. The media can create and destroy a good story and Jan. 6 is there honeypot. Especially, in Uncle Joe's down spell after the Afghanistan fiasco, it distracted everyone for the whole summer into mid terms. Nice going. A++ you guys. You definitely want it more than the Republicans. I wish the Lions had have your resolve.

Quite right. There were 547 separate George Floyd riots during the summer of 2000. Billions in damage and many killed. The media sold this as "mostly peaceful" and "moral". J6 was 900 goofballs illegally breaking into the Capitol. Only progs could believe 900 unarmed "insurrectionists" could overthrow the US government. At root, this is about trying to paint any opposition to the coming totalitarian state as "white supremacy" or "domestic terrorism".

We are now beginning to see the prosecution of thought crimes. Better watch your back, klondike

[Da Geezer]

I know right, this Jan 6 nonsense needs to end. It's not like Jan 6 was the first time in history that the Confederate flag breeched the Capitol by force.

Really? When exactly did the confederate flag "breech" the Capitol? Just trying to learn here.

[chemiclord]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/confederate-flag-toting-man-son-convicted-jan-6-riot-rcna33836

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If you wanted to find out, it wouldn't have been hard. Of course, you don't actually want to learn, so... yeah.