Coronavirus Safety Protocol - please read and discuss

[Marko69]

I think this is ALL coming over wrong. It wouldn't in a pub having a fucking beer with each other. Nothing against you Foxhopper AT ALL, but my point is being darkened by you liking my posts. I am not trying to be controversial or some ILLUMINATI trailblazer......, I am merely trying to understand the ACTUAL <<----- (THE ACTUAL) vaccine rollout figures.

I do believe FL with the mutation of viruses etc etc. My brain is struggling to understand last Septembers rising UK figures being "x" and this years rate of rise being much more, and this year 50 MILLION are double vacced. It is a proper mindfuck. If the "dodgers" are causing this, (not the baseball team because FK BASEBALL) , then you (Froot Loops) must be correct in that this is one total bastard of a virus.

Ok, new question........, is it here for over 5 or 10 years at this severity?

[-Deborah-]

Marko, hope you and your family are okay.

Here's some info on breakthrough cases:


As good as they are, these shots aren't perfect. Their protection differs from person to person depending on age and underlying health. People with immune function that's weakened because of age or a health condition can still become seriously ill, and, in very rare cases, die after vaccination.

When people are infected with Delta, they carry approximately 1000 times more virus compared with previous versions of the virus, according to a recent study. All that virus can overwhelm even the strong protection from the vaccines.

"Three months ago, breakthroughs didn't occur nearly at this rate because there was just so much less virus exposure in the community," says Michael Osterholm, PhD, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.

[Marko69]

Deborah, thanks for the above and the snippets about the virus and vaccines. MIL ok but feeling like crap alternate days. (Whispers......, sometimes I think she's full of shit! ) She was walking slowly around her lounge last week, (My wife was in another room) ......, the MIL's mobile / cell phone rung in her bedroom......., she was much quicker going to get it!! Sacha, (my wife) didn't see this. I said to myself, "You're putting this on ya fkn chancer!"

[-Deborah-]

Hahaha!

What is a chancer?

[foxhopper]

Marko. I like your posts because you are giving us another side of the news that we aren't getting from our main stream news here. And you are giving us truthful (I hope) observations of what you are seeing in your own life.

Yep, I'm a conspiracy nut according to you all but I really believe there are many more "breakthrough" cases happening to the vaxxed then we are being told. I make my decisions on what "I" see in my life. Many of my older friends and relatives are developing assorted health problems since being vaxxinated. My own mother who was in better health than most of my 30 year old friends; walked close to 8 miles a day, pushed mowed her 1/2 acre yard. She also worked 4 days a week delivering food and helping care for dozens of people much younger than her. It has really been down hill since her second shot.

I used the word faux just to rile you folks up. Just like when I get riled up when most of the vaxxed seem to want to dismiss natural immunity.

[Marko69]

A chancer is just someone who makes things out to be worse than they really are. I'm not saying she really is a chancer...... but there was serious quicker movement.

Can I tell you the ultimate chancer story.
My gran, 97, still with us........, about 20 years ago, the family had to get an ambulance for her to the house. Dizzy spells or some shit. Anyway, huge family, so there were uncles and aunts, cousins etc etc all in the street watching her go into the ambulance. Me and my bro were at the ambulance door peering in, looking at her as she lay on the stretcher with oxygen on her face, ......., just as the door was about to close, she sat up slightly and waved!!

Love her to bits, but even to this day, she is an old fkn chancer!

[Marko69]

Marko. I like your posts because you are giving us another side of the news that we aren't getting from our main stream news here. And you are giving us truthful (I hope) observations of what you are seeing in your own life.

Yep, I'm a conspiracy nut according to you all but I really believe there are many more "breakthrough" cases happening to the vaxxed then we are being told. I make my decisions on what "I" see in my life. Many of my older friends and relatives are developing assorted health problems since being vaxxinated. My own mother who was in better health than most of my 30 year old friends; walked close to 8 miles a day, pushed mowed her 1/2 acre yard. She also worked 4 days a week delivering food and helping care for dozens of people much younger than her. It has really been down hill since her second shot.

I used the word faux just to rile you folks up. Just like when I get riled up when most of the vaxxed seem to want to dismiss natural immunity.

Honestly dude......, hand on heart......., I live my life not getting overly stressed out about what other people are doing or what they are believing......., but trying to get points across with the written word is so difficult. It is almost like walking on eggshells which shouldn't happen with people discussing stuff in their 50s / 60s etc etc.

FTR......, my opinion on Illuminati conspiracy, world owners etc etc etc.........., there MUST be more proper concrete proof of stuff because I can't help but think people sound a bit "thick" saying China made it, the USA made 9/11 happen etc etc. Not saying you're thick, I do not know you at all.

Blame fat Greggs donut eating Uncle John in Port Seton.........., he believes the world ended years ago and this is Hell ..... coupled with every conspiracy theory you can think of.
And Uncle John is thick.

[foxhopper]

And btw Deb. Thanks for still allowing free discussion here. Even if it has dropped my popularity down to about .002 percent....lol

[foxhopper]

No problem Marko. I like you because you do seem to have more of an open mind to other possibilities.

I have always been a half glass full person and worried about everything too much.

[Futureshock]

Yes it is a vicious circle. Because while focusing on the cunts who are avoiding jabs (due to conspiracy beliefs) with shock / scare commercials , what do we say to the people who've had multiple vacs being spun around in the beds?

Today, on BBC Radio 2 news, we are heading for a lockdown November time if cases go on the current curve. Most people have been fucking vacced. Yet it is RISING quicker than last year. You telling me the smattering of Conspiracy cunts are making the curve STEEPER?? Fucking bullshit.

You continue to attempt to make a point.
I honestly can't figure what that point is.
You have one as long as we discount some truths.
If your search is for perfection, I am sorry to tell you there is none to be found.

What I can tell you is that the LEADING scientists and medical personnel in the world have been vaccinated as well as their families and children.

Ok, honest question. IF they (Scientists and Medical personnel as well as their families and children) got vaccinated and kept it to themselves:

1. Would you be upset because it is being held from you and your family?
2. Do you honestly think the rates would be lower?

The last question is one I answer all the time. My answer, even though people wear their seat belts now AND STILL DIE. Do you think we should all just stop wearing them?

You see, there are times we can't eliminate. Like this. We reduce and minimize it as much as possible.

[foxhopper]

And another thing Marko, you come across as somebody who cares about other people. You are one of the first who ask about members who haven't been around in awhile. You welcome them back when they come back. Scores high with me.

Most of these fucks don't even pay attention or seem to give a shit.

[Marko69]

My response to Froot in post number 1636 sort of put that to bed a bit, Futureshock. He understood fully what my point was. I do not wish to go down whatever road you are talking about.

[-Deborah-]

A chancer is just someone who makes things out to be worse than they really are. I'm not saying she really is a chancer...... but there was serious quicker movement.

Can I tell you the ultimate chancer story.
My gran, 97, still with us........, about 20 years ago, the family had to get an ambulance for her to the house. Dizzy spells or some shit. Anyway, huge family, so there were uncles and aunts, cousins etc etc all in the street watching her go into the ambulance. Me and my bro were at the ambulance door peering in, looking at her as she lay on the stretcher with oxygen on her face, ......., just as the door was about to close, she sat up slightly and waved!!

Love her to bits, but even to this day, she is an old fkn chancer!

Haha! 97!! Wow!

I know a lot of chancers...I'm going to use that word from now on!

[-Deborah-]

Marko. I like your posts because you are giving us another side of the news that we aren't getting from our main stream news here. And you are giving us truthful (I hope) observations of what you are seeing in your own life.

Yep, I'm a conspiracy nut according to you all but I really believe there are many more "breakthrough" cases happening to the vaxxed then we are being told. I make my decisions on what "I" see in my life. Many of my older friends and relatives are developing assorted health problems since being vaxxinated. My own mother who was in better health than most of my 30 year old friends; walked close to 8 miles a day, pushed mowed her 1/2 acre yard. She also worked 4 days a week delivering food and helping care for dozens of people much younger than her. It has really been down hill since her second shot.

I used the word faux just to rile you folks up. Just like when I get riled up when most of the vaxxed seem to want to dismiss natural immunity.

Your anecdotal observations shouldn't outweigh numerous scientific studies from around the world. And believing "they" are constantly withholding information from "us" is indeed why Fox is doing so well. "DON'T TRUST THE VACCINE" they yell while 90% of those who work for Fox get vaccinated and they impose a strict testing protocol for the unvaccinated who work there. Their hypocrisy is astounding. Why their viewers don't see it is baffling and quite maddening.

BTW, "they" did not hold back data on the J&J vaccine causing heart issues in some cases. There are too many of "them," across the globe, required to conspire in order to stop this flow of information from happening. Again, this is a GLOBAL pandemic. Not just an American idea to depose Trump.

I'm sorry your Mom is struggling recently. I hope she feels better soon.

[-Deborah-]

Oh, I also don't discount natural immunity gained from having COVID. I think it lasts a long time, much like the immunity gained from the vaccine. My preference is getting vaccinated instead of going through a COVID infection, though.