Coronavirus Safety Protocol - please read and discuss

[CGVT]

You want shit to get back to normal? Get the fucking shot.

Jesus. What the fuck has happened to this country?

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I think it is pretty clear that the data is proving them to be effective. There is really no arguing that, the people dying or having terrible consequences of COVID are coming from the unvaccinated.

My wife works in an ICU and for a year they were hammered with cases of COVID, since the state of Michigan got mass vaccinated the cases dwindled to a handful. You would have to be a obstinate contrarian to question it's effectiveness.

There have been very few side effects reported outside of getting hit with flu like symptoms after the second shot. I guess if you are arguing that long term people may turn into mutants, you can hang onto that

[Marko69]

I guess if you are arguing that long term people may turn into mutants, you can hang onto that

Spielberg has bought the movie rights.

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I love how the propaganda machine has to put that blurb in there. Peeps can do what they want but how do they know if it’s safe or effective? What’s the determining factor for that?

This can be said about anything right?

Like, "Making love is safe and effective."

"Being a Lions' fan is safe and effective."

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/25/buffalo-cleveland-nfl-vaccines-fmia-peter-king/

The COVID Reality


A round of phone calls to agents and two players yielded these notes:

1. Agent Drew Rosenhaus: “I had a client who knew there was interest out there but didn’t want to be vaccinated. He was dead-set against it. But teams ask about free-agents’ vaccination status. You know they want these guys to be vaccinated. So my guy went out and got vaccinated, and he got signed. But I have players adamant they won’t get the vaccine. They just don’t want to be told what to do. I think there will be players who decide they don’t want to play because of this issue.”

2. Agent David Canter: “If you’re on the street, and unless you were really good last year but got injured, you will not get signed by an NFL team. GMs are already losing their minds over the vaccine, and they’re not going to take [marginal] players who won’t get the shot.”

3. One veteran offensive player, who is vaccinated: “What I don’t understand with the players who aren’t vaccinated—a couple of things. I have a family and an extended family. I don’t want them to get sick, and I don’t want them to get me sick, or me to get them sick. All these guys who won’t get it, don’t they worry about their families, especially with this [variant]? And I also feel that if you play a team sport, you’re responsible to the guys in the locker room, not just your family. All of that makes it hard to fathom why players won’t get it.”

4. One veteran defensive player was adamant that he wouldn’t get the vaccine. He told his agent last spring it was a non-starter. Then he told the agent two weeks ago he’d been vaccinated, in part to keep his young child and wife safe. This leads to . . .

5. Several people in the league think the key is to be patient. “Our trainer explained what life was going to be like if you didn’t get vaccinated. He was very calm about it. But when players heard they wouldn’t be able to get away during the bye week, and they would have to hang around when our coaches give them the long Labor Day weekend off [unvaxxed players have to be tested every day in their home market], that changed a few minds right there.” The worst thing to do to convince strong-willed players to get vaccinated is to browbeat or threaten them. So the NFL is still determined to play the long game, as the CDC seems to be.



On Friday, the NFL’s medical director, Dr. Allen Sills, said 80 percent of all players were either fully vaccinated or were one shot in, nine teams had at least 90 percent of the players vaccinated, and only five teams were at less than 70 percent. The NFL, one official told me, is hopeful that with all teams reporting no later than Tuesday, the reality will set in and the unvaccinated will realize they’ll be second-class citizens. As angry as some players will be about it, the league hopes the disadvantages of being unvaxxed will sway enough players so that most or all teams will have herd immunity.

Of course, a Cole Beasley, who has been a major face of the anti-vaxxers in the league, could decide to not play. It’s amazing for us to think that one of football’s best slot receivers could leave $11.9 million in cash on the table over the next two years by retiring out of principle. But I won’t be surprised to see a significant player walk away. The conspiracy theory about vaccines being bad is real in pockets of society. Why wouldn’t it be real in the NFL?

It’s a bad idea to try to browbeat players into getting the shot. But the league can’t just say, Okay, you’re not getting vaccinated. Life’s fine. If a player who wants to remain unvaccinated, he’ll have to pay the consequences if he’s connected to an outbreak on his team. And those consequences, although highly unlikely, could lead to a forfeit if an outbreak prevents a game from being played.

“I think one of the things that people are concerned about is, well, did these get developed too rapidly?” Sills said. “Or maybe there were steps that were skipped? I can assure people that’s not the case. I know personally some of the people who were involved in the review process of these vaccines when they came up for approval. I know people who sat in the room and looked at the data and looked at all of the evidence. I trust those people and I know that they’re professionals. When they tell me that they have zero concerns about safety of these vaccines, that’s very powerful to me.

“I think that this is truly one of the most remarkable scientific achievements of our lifetime. I mean, I’m old enough to remember us landing a man on the moon and that was an incredible culmination of so much work and effort on so many people. To me, this is equally impressive in an altogether different way because you had so many people around the world who worked on the development of these vaccines.”

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Part 2

One final point. NFL Network’s Rich Eisen got COVID earlier this month despite being fully vaccinated with the double Pfizer shot early this year. He and his wife were in Boston on July 12, about to leave for a week’s vacation in Italy, when he felt a tickle in the back of his throat. Nothing serious. But he had to be tested to travel to Italy, and the test came back positive. A second test came back positive. Eisen had to quarantine in a Boston hotel room for 10 days. His wife, who tested negative, flew back to California—where their 7-year-old daughter was newly positive for COVID. Within a couple of days, Eisen told me, “The symptoms presented like a freight train—night sweats, chills, loss of appetite,” he said. “It hit me pretty hard for three or four days.”

Many would look at Eisen and say, What good is the vaccine if you get the disease after being vaccinated? Eisen looks at it this way:

“The vaccine is not 100 percent effective in preventing COVID,” he told me Saturday. “But it is very effective in keeping you out of the hospital—or worse. I believe getting the vaccine kept me off a ventilator. And getting the vaccine will not only improve your chances of not being infected, but if you’re infected, decrease your chance of dying.

“All I’ve heard from the unvaccinated is it’s time to just live with it and get back to normal. Well, I tried that, and I ended up in quarantine with COVID, and most likely I passed it to my 7-year-old daughter. So you not getting the vaccine makes COVID more prevalent in society, and could cause the next variant to be worse, and to pierce my immunity.”

Eisen’s voice was rising. “My wife and I, as parents, are supposed to protect our children. My 7-year-old gets it, probably from me, after I was vaccinated,” he said. “So now . . . it’s personal for me.”

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June 8, Ashburn, Va.

“I haven’t caught COVID yet. I don’t see me treating COVID until I actually get COVID.”

—WFT edge rusher Montez Sweat, saying he hadn’t been vaccinated and had no plans to get vaccinated.

Which led to this rejoinder from one Twitter follower: “I haven’t caught polio yet. So I don’t see me treating polio until I actually get polio.”

[edindetroit]

I love how the propaganda machine has to put that blurb in there. Peeps can do what they want but how do they know if it’s safe or effective? What’s the determining factor for that?

At this point it would be the empirical evidence from hundreds of millions of doses given.

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Red wristband, yellow wristband; some Bucs had no wristband at all

Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2021, 7:07 AM EDT

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The NFL has deferred to its teams the procedure for visually identifying vaccinated and unvaccinated players at practice. In Pittsburgh, unvaccinated players are wearing yellow wristbands (first-round rookie running back Najee Harris is one of the few wearing it). In Jacksonville, unvaccinated players will wear a wristband.

In Tampa, the team has said vaccinated players will wear a red wristband and unvaccinated players will wear a yellow wristband. Photos emerging from Sunday’s practice reveal plenty of players with red wristbands, such as tight end Rob Gronkowski and receiver Mike Evans. For some players, no wristband can be seen.

Quarterback Tom Brady had no wristband. Neither did quarterback Blaine Gabbert or quarterback Kyle Trask.

Running back Leonard Fournette, who has made it clear that he’s not vaccinated, had no wristband, either.

It’s unclear what any of it means, other than the intended procedures apparently aren’t being completely adhered to, yet.

[Forsh]

This was very poorly phrased and comes off really bad. The last bit was good tho

[Marko69]

This was very poorly phrased and comes off really bad. The last bit was good tho

Yes, got to say, must agree. Its the modern day “stir it up” type text that someone will only say from the keyboard. Very few would voice this in that way in company. (thats my opinion, be gentle)

SO many ways she could’ve got her point across.

Unless of course non vaccinated people pi$$ her off sooooo much that she takes to the keyboard asap.

[-Deborah-]

Marko, which vaccines are they giving in your country? Do you have access to the same ones as we do here in the States (Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson&Johnson)? Hope your MIL is recovering.

[Futureshock]

This was very poorly phrased and comes off really bad. The last bit was good tho

Curious. What was so bad there?