Coronavirus Safety Protocol - please read and discuss

[Nick Pappageorgio]

As “scary” is both very personal and very objective…..I agree with you for you, but disagree for me.

Me…..I’m terrified of horses. Nobody is gonna tell me that shit’s “illogical”…..horses are pure-concentrated evil.



I guess I get caught up in the flippant way people suggest that non-vaccinated should be cut/fired and or that Beasley’s “Dumaz” is stupid for “want(ing) the same rights as a fully vaccinated person”. It’s crazy how easily people are willing to shame, cancel, and suspend other’s rights because they don’t think alike.

it’s really fucked up

[Whitley]

As “scary” is both very personal and very objective…..I agree with you for you, but disagree for me.

Me…..I’m terrified of horses. Nobody is gonna tell me that shit’s “illogical”…..horses are pure-concentrated evil.



I guess I get caught up in the flippant way people suggest that non-vaccinated should be cut/fired and or that Beasley’s “Dumaz” is stupid for “want(ing) the same rights as a fully vaccinated person”. It’s crazy how easily people are willing to shame, cancel, and suspend other’s rights because they don’t think alike.

it’s really fucked up

The NFL is a private business and as such can set its own rules on vaccinations. If Beasley doesn't like the restrictions put upon him for not being vaccinated then he can get vaccinated. Sure you have the CHOICE to get vaccinated or not but that doesn't mean that choice does not have consequences.

Personally, I think all the restrictions should be lifted for those that are vaccinated/can prove they had covid 19. A vaccine passport. Those that CHOOSE not be vaccinated can continue to have curbside service etc.

[froot loops]

All I know is this last surge was the worst. My wife's unit had a lot of people in their 30s and 40s die with no underlying conditions. She has a cousin who is my age and has always been in great shape and he almost got put on a vent. He is still on oxygen 3 months later. A full day of work wipes him out.


I was in the local Citgo and middle age some short guy with really big spare tire using his mask as a chin strip was telling me and the cashier about lying Fauci and the government experimenting on you. I didn't have the heart to tell him if he got it and had to go to the ICU, it would only be a short visit before the refrigerated truck they used as a morgue.

Thankfully those vaccines came out.

[Nick Pappageorgio]

So all private business should maintain the right to make all of their employees take any (experimental or otherwise) medications that might increase their profits?

you’re handing total medical control of people’s lives to the corporations (if they want the right to earn a living).

I’m sorry….but that right to work state shit doesn’t pass the smell test. I think when you let private corporations start infringing on people’s medical (and other) righs, while holding jobs as a ransom……that you infringe on “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” pretty quickly (and the courts take those words seriously).

this whole thing is kind of analogous (legally anyway) with Trump saying that NFL teams should fire kneeling players (after Kap)….it’s something the gov’t can’t make you do so they’re getting the corporations to do the dirty work while holding jobs over people’s heads.

[Whitley]

.it’s something the gov’t can’t make you do so they’re getting the corporations to do the dirty work while holding jobs over people’s heads.

Actually, the government does require you to have certain vaccines/shots to go to public school (if you are k-12 age). That is a public health matter.

Hospitals REQUIRE you get a yearly flu shot even if you are just a support staff person. That is also a public health matter.

[-Deborah-]

As “scary” is both very personal and very objective…..I agree with you for you, but disagree for me.

Me…..I’m terrified of horses. Nobody is gonna tell me that shit’s “illogical”…..horses are pure-concentrated evil.



I guess I get caught up in the flippant way people suggest that non-vaccinated should be cut/fired and or that Beasley’s “Dumaz” is stupid for “want(ing) the same rights as a fully vaccinated person”. It’s crazy how easily people are willing to shame, cancel, and suspend other’s rights because they don’t think alike.

it’s really fucked up

Good point, I should have said "harmful" instead of "scary." So that should read: I completely disagree with the thought that the vaccine is more harmful than COVID.

I can't argue against your other point. But if having a group of unvaccinated players together consistently over time leads to more illness then it makes sense to either require a vaccine or change how those players are handled.

When I worked in Healthcare IT, I was required to get a flu shot as part of my employment. If I declined, I had to wear a mask during working hours. This was true even though I worked at corporate headquarters and never went to patient locations. Why? Because others who I encountered on a daily basis DID go to those locations and I could infect them and they could infect others and so on.

[Nick Pappageorgio]

Actually, the government does require you to have certain vaccines/shots to go to public school (if you are k-12 age). That is a public health matter.

Hospitals REQUIRE you get a yearly flu shot even if you are just a support staff person. That is also a public health matter.

actually, no

anyone can opt out of those school regulations for “religious or philosophical reasons” in like almost every state. And if you’re scoring at home “philosophical reasons” means any reason at all (or “no reason” if you’re a nihilist). I’d have to imagine those protections are in places for nurses too (see Deb’s post about having to wear a mask as an alternative).

no matter how many capital letters you put in the word “require”….people still have a lot of rights relating to their own individual bodies……it seems you’d like to see that changed

also making a still “experimental” medication compulsory at any level would require a few legal hoops (presumably all the way to the Supreme Court).

[Futureshock]

Hey, over $600,000 people have died because of COVID.

Nick P - Hogwash ur gubernment and Pharma control, it's like a cold.

[Futureshock]

actually, no

anyone can opt out of those school regulations for “religious or philosophical reasons” in like almost every state. And if you’re scoring at home “philosophical reasons” means any reason at all (or “no reason” if you’re a nihilist). I’d have to imagine those protections are in places for nurses too (see Deb’s post about having to wear a mask as an alternative).

no matter how many capital letters you put in the word “require”….people still have a lot of rights relating to their own individual bodies……it seems you’d like to see that changed

also making a still “experimental” medication compulsory at any level would require a few legal hoops (presumably all the way to the Supreme Court).

Isn't it amazing how some people can tell you their rights but in the same frame tell you you don't have a right to do what THEY do not want you to do.

And you're changing the goal posts.

The statement was because Beasley thinks he can do whatever without do the requisite for such. Try to keep up.

IOW IF there was no vaccine we would still be under the same rules to limit exposures. Right? Beasley wouldn't be complaining. {If you can show me where he complained about this last year I'll lament.}

NOW, because millions of Americans have taken the vaccine that ALL OF OUR LEADING SCIENTISTS, (even the ones who do not work for the big bad Gubernment and big Pharma) agree that they are safe. (BUT, I understand wanting to take a wait and see position) Things are opening up and rules are being relaxed for FULLY VACCINATED persons.

Beasley wants the benefit(s) of being a fully vaccinated person without being vaccinated.

He doesn't want to live/play/work under the constrictions that people who have not been vaccinated have to do. Even though that is exactly what he would do if the rules were the same as last year this time. THAT's ILLOGICAL.

I support his, yours, anyone's right to take the needle or not. I just think you should also take responsibility for your actions or lack thereof.

Too many people want benefits of someone else's actions. Cole is looking for this hand out.

Now is where you misconstrue and take a small snippet out of this to make some point.

Like NOBODY said anything about this being MANDATORY. You made that up to have some ground to stand on.

So can I drive a car legally without a Driver's certification? While intoxicated? While being someone who suffers from fainting spells?

Can I operate and act as a Physician, even though I do not have the certification?

Can a great group of traitors try overthrow the government and just go home when it doesn't work?

[Futureshock]

Citing desire to not be a “distraction,” Cole Beasley clams up on vaccine issue

Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2021, 7:41 PM EDT

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Bills receiver Cole Beasley said plenty last week about the rules regarding vaccinated and unvaccinated players. He now has something more to say: He’s done saying anything about it.

“I said all I needed to say,” Beasley told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. “I’m just living a normal life from here on out. I’m not trying to sway anybody in either direction. That’s what I am doing and that’s the end of it.”

Beasley has no regrets for what he has said, but he has a very good reason for saying nothing more.

“I don’t want [to] be any more of a distraction to my team so that’s where I’m leaving it,” Beasley said.

The key word is distraction. The vaccination issue already has been a distraction for the Bills. If players with different viewpoints keep talking about such a polarizing issue, a full-blown schism could emerge.

Also, Beasley has $5.2 million riding the team deciding to keep him in 2021. If the Bills decide they’re not comfortable keeping Beasley around (ostensibly, the decision would be driven by football reasons), he could be traded to another team. But if, in a climate that has seen the salary-cap fall dramatically due to the pandemic, no one wants to take on his $4.7 million salary and $500,000 in per-game roster bonuses, Beasley could be cut — and then he would be forced to scramble to replace his expected earnings.

Beasley suggested last week that he’ll ignore the rules and pay the fines. In his comments to the Star-Telegram, he doesn’t say whether he will or won’t obey the rules negotiated jointly by the NFL and the NFL Players Association.

If Beasley won’t, the Bills eventually could decide, officially for football reasons, to move on from Beasley and to clear $5.2 million in cash and cap space.

[Futureshock]

I think tomorrow I will walk into my workplace and tell my boss I don't like having to be there for 8 hours and since I'm salaried and can finish my work in less time, I am just going to waltz in there about 10 amish and leave around 3 pmish. Well as long as I can take a lunch break as long as I want.

[Futureshock]

And oh yeah. Allthose people who got the Rona and it was just mild... We do not know the long term effects of this either. Whether it's an enlarged heart or whatever.

[Futureshock]

He can express any opinion he wants to. And he can choose to respond to the comments anyway he wants to. He is choosing to stay silent because apparently the vocal majority or some perceived majority of people don’t want to hear it. That is called the free market. Kills me how people mistake Freedom of Speech with “Zero Consequences for Speaking.”

[Forsh]

And oh yeah. Allthose people who got the Rona and it was just mild... We do not know the long term effects of this either. Whether it's an enlarged heart or whatever.

I'm all for vaccination and staying safe, etc ... but you could say the same thing about a common cold. Each individual will react a bit differently

[Forsh]

We also don't know the long term effects of mrna vaccines ... altho I'm in favor of vaccinations