MICHIGAN Men's Basketball: The 2012-13 Season- CHAMPIONSHIP GAME BOUND! - Page 3

hack · March 20th, 2012, 06:52 PM

I see your point there, and I'd think it was neat if I didn't harbor fears of Beeline (easier to spell so can we adopt it?) going midget in a game where 95% of the time going big is the thing to do. But in the context of near years' bigs-heavy and guard-light rotation, I think it's a bad idea. GR3 can post up from the SF position if it's really a strength of his game. Especially if clearing out by sending MMG and Smot out to spot up. Or Morgan if he can come back with a baseline jumper.

*JD* · March 20th, 2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hack

Agreed that bigs don't automatically translate to inside scoring, but you need them to rebound and defend for sure. As I said, one way or another you need to attack the basket, and that's the concern. There can't be all this tossing it up from 3 without at least swinging the ball around or trying for a higher-percentage shot as well as ones that get you to the FT line.

Agree about running -- it's tough to score out of your sets in the B1G on a regular basis.

Finally, welcome back to the Sanitystan. We've missed you here.

I haven't changed where I've been coming from. I guess you must've been multi-tasking while reading my posts until now.

We'll need to hash this out over beers and burgers at Frasier's when I come back for a visit.

hack · March 20th, 2012, 06:54 PM

I am never not multitasking so I don't see why this time would be any different, but I am happy to let you pick up the tab in exchange for some explanation...

*JD* · March 20th, 2012, 06:56 PM

Wait, what?

I gift you with my knowledge AND buy? Hmm....

hack · March 20th, 2012, 06:58 PM

You deserve my full attention, but paying and listening would count as multitasking.

*JD* · March 20th, 2012, 07:07 PM

Haha. Okay, we'll see.

Detroit Dan · March 20th, 2012, 09:00 PM

LOL

*JD* · March 20th, 2012, 10:23 PM

In actual news, MICHIGAN will open the preseason NIT with a home game against Oakland u. If they win they will then face the winner of Cleveland State vs. Bowling Green. If they win that game, they advance to Madison Square Garden for the Semi-finals. Other rumored teams include Pittsburgh and Virginia.

Also, Michigan has agreed to a home and home vs. Arizona. That series will begin in the '13-'14 season.

Here's a schedule link:

http://www.umhoops.com/information/2012-13-schedule/

whodean · March 21st, 2012, 02:20 PM

Smotrycz, Christian and Brundidge have left the program

Beliein:"we never like 2 see players leave the program however (they) have made the decision 2 transfer and continue their careers elsewhere"

hack · March 21st, 2012, 02:25 PM

WOW. Smot hurts, but maybe that says something about Beilfeldt?

Best of luck to the three of them...

whodean · March 21st, 2012, 02:26 PM

Next year's team is going to be YOUNG

*JD* · March 21st, 2012, 02:41 PM

That solves any logjams in the frontcourt. Smot is the only one that surprises me but I really thought he was going to have to do a lot to not lose PT.

Tough way to end his Michigan career. I blocked lay-up and a game-ending turnover down the stretch, after he'd played a good game.

I think he'll make some program happy, maybe closer to home like Boston College?

Both Brundidge and CC can play big roles at a mid-level place, although CC may never be starter material.

We'll see if Carlton lives up to his H.S. ranking somewhere else. It's tough to be an undersized 2 in big time college basketball.

Good luck to them all- I wish them well.

I guess Trey Zeigler could be on the table again. Can he play some PG?

*JD* · March 21st, 2012, 03:07 PM

I know this is silly (not a real departure from most of what I do on here) but last night I was projecting minutes for our players next year. I had Smot down to about 15 a game.

If I was anywhere near to being right as what the coaches might be thinkng, I can see why he left. I think he was going to lose all of the minutes he had as a back-up 5 and would at best be a back-up 4 to McGary and maybe get a little time at the 3. Now, he can go somewhere else, have a year to work on his game while sitting out and then start for 2 years somewhere.

If he still has aspirations of being an NBA player, this was the right route to go.

He was Coach Beilein's first Top 60 recruit, I think, so maybe he got the ball rolling in some people's minds.

I'm bummed to see him go as I would've liked to have seen how he handled the challenge of the incoming talent and I liked the improvement I did see out of him. He also seemed like a funny guy from the preseason vids he made and a good teammate.

Again, I wish all of the transfers well. I'll be following them.

hack · March 21st, 2012, 03:30 PM

The big key to this is whether McGary is a 4 or 5.

hack · March 21st, 2012, 03:31 PM

Does Zeigler have to sit out a year or no?

Deuce · March 21st, 2012, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hack

Does Zeigler have to sit out a year or no?

Yes.

*JD* · March 21st, 2012, 03:43 PM

Didn't his dad, the coach leave/get fired? I thought if that was the case, a transfer didn't have to wait.

hack · March 21st, 2012, 03:43 PM

http://www.umhoops.com/2012/03/21/de...-draft-status/

Burke considering the draft? That's not fun to read.

*JD* · March 21st, 2012, 03:54 PM

Yeah, I just saw that.

THAT would be devastating to next year's team. I don't think he'll go since he still isn't on any Mock Draft's radar as even a 2nd rounder but I've been surprised before.

WM Wolverine · March 21st, 2012, 04:11 PM

I wouldn't guess that means too much about Beilfeldt; more that Smot can see his role greatly diminishing with Horford, McGary, Robinson III and others joining/rejoining the team... Possible but the latter seems more likely...

March 20th, 2012, 06:56 PM	#44
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	Wait, what? I gift you with my knowledge AND buy? Hmm.... __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 20th, 2012, 07:07 PM	#46
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	Haha. Okay, we'll see. __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 20th, 2012, 10:23 PM	#48
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	In actual news, MICHIGAN will open the preseason NIT with a home game against Oakland u. If they win they will then face the winner of Cleveland State vs. Bowling Green. If they win that game, they advance to Madison Square Garden for the Semi-finals. Other rumored teams include Pittsburgh and Virginia. Also, Michigan has agreed to a home and home vs. Arizona. That series will begin in the '13-'14 season. Here's a schedule link: http://www.umhoops.com/information/2012-13-schedule/ __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 21st, 2012, 02:20 PM	#49
whodean Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SEC Country (don't hold it against me) Posts: 3,592	Smotrycz, Christian and Brundidge have left the program Beliein:"we never like 2 see players leave the program however (they) have made the decision 2 transfer and continue their careers elsewhere" __________________ Atlanta, GA

March 21st, 2012, 02:26 PM	#51
whodean Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SEC Country (don't hold it against me) Posts: 3,592	Next year's team is going to be YOUNG __________________ Atlanta, GA Last edited by whodean; March 21st, 2012 at 02:57 PM.

March 20th, 2012, 06:52 PM	#41
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	I see your point there, and I'd think it was neat if I didn't harbor fears of Beeline (easier to spell so can we adopt it?) going midget in a game where 95% of the time going big is the thing to do. But in the context of near years' bigs-heavy and guard-light rotation, I think it's a bad idea. GR3 can post up from the SF position if it's really a strength of his game. Especially if clearing out by sending MMG and Smot out to spot up. Or Morgan if he can come back with a baseline jumper.

March 20th, 2012, 06:54 PM	#43
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	I am never not multitasking so I don't see why this time would be any different, but I am happy to let you pick up the tab in exchange for some explanation...

March 20th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#45
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	You deserve my full attention, but paying and listening would count as multitasking.

March 20th, 2012, 09:00 PM	#47
Detroit Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,175	LOL

March 21st, 2012, 02:25 PM	#50
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	WOW. Smot hurts, but maybe that says something about Beilfeldt? Best of luck to the three of them...

March 21st, 2012, 02:41 PM	#52
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	That solves any logjams in the frontcourt. Smot is the only one that surprises me but I really thought he was going to have to do a lot to not lose PT. Tough way to end his Michigan career. I blocked lay-up and a game-ending turnover down the stretch, after he'd played a good game. I think he'll make some program happy, maybe closer to home like Boston College? Both Brundidge and CC can play big roles at a mid-level place, although CC may never be starter material. We'll see if Carlton lives up to his H.S. ranking somewhere else. It's tough to be an undersized 2 in big time college basketball. Good luck to them all- I wish them well. I guess Trey Zeigler could be on the table again. Can he play some PG? __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 21st, 2012, 03:07 PM	#53
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	I know this is silly (not a real departure from most of what I do on here) but last night I was projecting minutes for our players next year. I had Smot down to about 15 a game. If I was anywhere near to being right as what the coaches might be thinkng, I can see why he left. I think he was going to lose all of the minutes he had as a back-up 5 and would at best be a back-up 4 to McGary and maybe get a little time at the 3. Now, he can go somewhere else, have a year to work on his game while sitting out and then start for 2 years somewhere. If he still has aspirations of being an NBA player, this was the right route to go. He was Coach Beilein's first Top 60 recruit, I think, so maybe he got the ball rolling in some people's minds. I'm bummed to see him go as I would've liked to have seen how he handled the challenge of the incoming talent and I liked the improvement I did see out of him. He also seemed like a funny guy from the preseason vids he made and a good teammate. Again, I wish all of the transfers well. I'll be following them. __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 21st, 2012, 03:30 PM	#54
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	The big key to this is whether McGary is a 4 or 5.

March 21st, 2012, 03:31 PM	#55
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,640	Does Zeigler have to sit out a year or no?

March 21st, 2012, 03:43 PM	#57
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	Didn't his dad, the coach leave/get fired? I thought if that was the case, a transfer didn't have to wait. __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 21st, 2012, 03:54 PM	#59
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,098	Yeah, I just saw that. THAT would be devastating to next year's team. I don't think he'll go since he still isn't on any Mock Draft's radar as even a 2nd rounder but I've been surprised before. __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

March 21st, 2012, 04:11 PM	#60
WM Wolverine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,300	I wouldn't guess that means too much about Beilfeldt; more that Smot can see his role greatly diminishing with Horford, McGary, Robinson III and others joining/rejoining the team... Possible but the latter seems more likely... __________________ B10 titles: 42 - #1 all-time wins (903) #1 all-time winning percentage (.734)