The Notre Dame "To Hell With Michigan" Thread - Page 2

Clashmore Mike · April 21st, 2011, 10:28 AM

@ Rocky: Just because I've never brought it up...and now you've carried it to this forum...

...you do realize that Rocky Bleier was a Domer right???

SeattleLionsFan · April 21st, 2011, 01:10 PM

Clash. Assuming you were seriously saying folks would risk their lives to be part of a football program.

I think that's probably part of what happened, but that's a real shame. As fun as football is, and as passionate as fans are, it's still just a game and not worth someone's life.

Rocky Bleier · April 21st, 2011, 01:24 PM

Rocky atoned for his previous sins by being a member of the Steelers.

geo weidl · April 21st, 2011, 02:00 PM

Safety is always priority on the job, should something happen it costs you more in the end. For nd, it was a student's life. Whether Sullivan was trying to be a hero or someone on the coaching staff not using their heads it was a costly mistake.

Clashmore Mike · April 26th, 2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLionsFan

Clash. Assuming you were seriously saying folks would risk their lives to be part of a football program.

I think that's probably part of what happened, but that's a real shame. As fun as football is, and as passionate as fans are, it's still just a game and not worth someone's life.

I guess that's what I meant. With respect to the whole lack of common sense mantra...I have to put some of that on Sullivan as well...not just support staff. Having said that, I do think that Sullivan stayed up in that tower longer because it was for Notre Dame football than he would have if it was a $8/hour summer job for McDonalds.

geo weidl · April 26th, 2011, 08:32 AM

Clash, I understand that nd maybe platooning their qb's this season?

Clashmore Mike · April 26th, 2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by geo weidl

Clash, I understand that nd maybe platooning their qb's this season?

Is a possibility...but more conjecture than anything else, just because Kelly & Co. aren't saying shit. I'm excited for our QB situation. Been meaning to post my thoughts on the Spring game, but fairly busy...will elaborate further soon.

SeanB · April 26th, 2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Clashmore Mike

Been meaning to post my thoughts on the Spring game, but fairly busy...will elaborate further soon.

What a cliff hanger!!

Seriously, though, Dad and I watched a bit of it on the TV when he was here for the M Spring Game; the weather looked absolutely horrible. Tough to judge much on that performance, I would imagine.

lineygoblue · April 26th, 2011, 12:29 PM

I think ND fans are going to have a lot to cheer about over the next few years.

Brian Kelly, personality deficiencies aside, is a fine football coach.

Dr. Strangelove · April 26th, 2011, 01:49 PM

Kid dies and Michigan fans think no one should have to lose their job. Sad, sure, but let's not make this a big deal...Brian Kelley is a fine man

Tressel lies about his players selling pins...BAN HIM FROM COACHING PROFESSION AND PUBLIC APPEARANCES FOR LIFE. ENTIRE ATHLETIC DEPT NEEDS TO BE FIRED!! PRESIDENT TOO!!

Mike- Much more taking a dig at Los Wolverinos here than a true dig at the Domers, fwiw

hack · April 26th, 2011, 01:54 PM

Is there a repeated and documented pattern of kids dying in this way at ND?

Dr. Strangelove · April 26th, 2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hack

Is there a repeated and documented pattern of kids dying in this way at ND?

One kid dying in such a needless manner due to total negligence should be considered less serious than the Tressel situation, because it hasn't happened before? That's what you want to argue?

SeattleLionsFan · April 26th, 2011, 02:13 PM

Purposeful breaking of the rules to gain a competitive advantage is a big deal.

An accident is an accident.

Jamie H · April 26th, 2011, 02:29 PM

Exactly. But most OSU fans probably think that St. Tressel "accidently" lied to the NCAA. Repeatedly.

Dr. Strangelove · April 26th, 2011, 05:55 PM

Oh. Well. If it was an accident and the first time, certainly, no one should lose their job.

*JD* · April 26th, 2011, 10:51 PM

Are you using a guy's death to defend the reaction of Satan Jim's transgressions?

lineygoblue · April 26th, 2011, 10:54 PM

Hmmmm.....

Dr. Strangelove · April 27th, 2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by *JD*

Are you using a guy's death to defend the reaction of Satan Jim's transgressions?

No, I'm just pointing out that Das Wolverweins hold Mr. Kelly to a different standard than the Senator. Probably because he's a sort-of Michigan guy. Maybe after a few losses to the Kellster there will be a less forgiving tone about him. In fact I'd count on it.

Jeff Buchanan · April 27th, 2011, 08:11 AM

Rolls eyes .....

Optimus Prime · April 27th, 2011, 08:47 AM

No, I'm just pointing out that Das Wolverweins hold Mr. Kelly to a different standard than the Senator. Probably because he's a sort-of Michigan guy. Maybe after a few losses to the Kellster there will be a less forgiving tone about him. In fact I'd count on it.

Well yes, Tressel is a two-bit pimp, nothing more. Sad it took the latest NCAA crime investigation , not to mention nearly a decade for you to finally face the Irrefutable facts ...Pimp Tressel is on borrowed time, you might want to buy his autograph before he is fired.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...aa/?eref=sinav

April 21st, 2011, 01:10 PM	#22
SeattleLionsFan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,525	Clash. Assuming you were seriously saying folks would risk their lives to be part of a football program. I think that's probably part of what happened, but that's a real shame. As fun as football is, and as passionate as fans are, it's still just a game and not worth someone's life. __________________ To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi

April 21st, 2011, 01:24 PM	#23
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	Rocky atoned for his previous sins by being a member of the Steelers. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

April 26th, 2011, 12:29 PM	#29
lineygoblue Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Owosso, MI Posts: 5,364	I think ND fans are going to have a lot to cheer about over the next few years. Brian Kelly, personality deficiencies aside, is a fine football coach. __________________ "Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

April 26th, 2011, 02:13 PM	#33
SeattleLionsFan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20,525	Purposeful breaking of the rules to gain a competitive advantage is a big deal. An accident is an accident. __________________ To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi

April 26th, 2011, 10:51 PM	#36
JD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: My bags seem to always be packed, USA Posts: 8,092	Are you using a guy's death to defend the reaction of Satan Jim's transgressions? __________________ The poster formerly known as tin mad dog.

April 21st, 2011, 10:28 AM	#21
Clashmore Mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 458	@ Rocky: Just because I've never brought it up...and now you've carried it to this forum... ...you do realize that Rocky Bleier was a Domer right???

April 21st, 2011, 02:00 PM	#24
geo weidl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 807	Safety is always priority on the job, should something happen it costs you more in the end. For nd, it was a student's life. Whether Sullivan was trying to be a hero or someone on the coaching staff not using their heads it was a costly mistake.

April 26th, 2011, 08:32 AM	#26
geo weidl Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 807	Clash, I understand that nd maybe platooning their qb's this season?

April 26th, 2011, 01:49 PM	#30
Dr. Strangelove Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lorain, OH Posts: 2,441	Kid dies and Michigan fans think no one should have to lose their job. Sad, sure, but let's not make this a big deal...Brian Kelley is a fine man Tressel lies about his players selling pins...BAN HIM FROM COACHING PROFESSION AND PUBLIC APPEARANCES FOR LIFE. ENTIRE ATHLETIC DEPT NEEDS TO BE FIRED!! PRESIDENT TOO!! Mike- Much more taking a dig at Los Wolverinos here than a true dig at the Domers, fwiw

April 26th, 2011, 01:54 PM	#31
hack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,612	Is there a repeated and documented pattern of kids dying in this way at ND?

April 26th, 2011, 02:29 PM	#34
Jamie H Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,067	Exactly. But most OSU fans probably think that St. Tressel "accidently" lied to the NCAA. Repeatedly.

April 26th, 2011, 05:55 PM	#35
Dr. Strangelove Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lorain, OH Posts: 2,441	Oh. Well. If it was an accident and the first time, certainly, no one should lose their job.

April 26th, 2011, 10:54 PM	#37
lineygoblue Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Owosso, MI Posts: 5,364	Hmmmm..... __________________ "Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

April 27th, 2011, 08:11 AM	#39
Jeff Buchanan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,542	Rolls eyes .....

April 27th, 2011, 08:47 AM	#40
Optimus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coconut Grove, Florida Posts: 2,603	No, I'm just pointing out that Das Wolverweins hold Mr. Kelly to a different standard than the Senator. Probably because he's a sort-of Michigan guy. Maybe after a few losses to the Kellster there will be a less forgiving tone about him. In fact I'd count on it. Well yes, Tressel is a two-bit pimp, nothing more. Sad it took the latest NCAA crime investigation , not to mention nearly a decade for you to finally face the Irrefutable facts ...Pimp Tressel is on borrowed time, you might want to buy his autograph before he is fired. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...aa/?eref=sinav Last edited by Optimus Prime; April 27th, 2011 at 08:52 AM.