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Old June 16th, 2010, 05:40 AM   #41
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D-Line with Haynesworth:

LDE - Kyle Vanden Bosch, Cliff Avril
DT - Albert Haynesworth, Ndamukong Suh
DT - Corey Williams, Sammie Lee Hill
RDE - Jared Devries, Jason Huter

Players like Joe Cohen, Landon Cohen, Andre Fluellen, Turk McBride are gone...
That would be pretty good.
I think we are goin to have to use our 1st Round Pick on a DE next year. We need a long term DE star...

Too bad the Haynesworth trade won't happen...
Our D-Line will be good anyways...
I think your depth is a bit of..we didn't take Suh #2 to play a backup role lol. If anything, it would be Haynesworth and Suh starting, Williams and Hill backing them up...just my opinion
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Old June 16th, 2010, 06:32 AM   #42
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I'd be very okay with Suh learning slower and rotating in. Williams and Haynes would be a nice combo if he's motivated.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 06:35 AM   #43
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Learning slower? F that! Kill the QB!
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Old June 16th, 2010, 07:20 AM   #44
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Learning slower? F that! Kill the QB!
I agree Mark. While it does look sexy on paper and the money issued gets resolved, will AH come into Detroit and play like or at least give the effort like his former years with Ten? Myself and alot of others on here really don't have the patience for another bigger younger Shaun Rodgers. Maybe playing for Schwartz and with KVB would revive him. If it happens, (right now I am only givng it a 25% chance) and he plays with a purpose, OMG! The offensive line wouldn't know who to block.

5 Olineman to block our 4 DLineman. THe QB is still going to get pressure everyplay. Who's gonna block the blitzing Safety or LB? The RB? not the TE, hes out there as a safety valve. On each and every play one of our Dlineman will beat his man, except for the one that is double teamed.

It may not matter who we sign for that other safety position. The opposing QB will not have the time to get the ball off on deep routes.

Lastly, if it does happen and the line just dominates opposing Olines, that will induce excitement in other players to pick up their game. Other players will want to be in the endlines also. While I am trying desprately to temper my kool-aide induced enthusiasum, I would loved to see AH here with a good attitude.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 07:50 AM   #45
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DL, it sounds great, but how realistic is it? I want to be an optimist, but my optimism is about worn out after years of abuse by the Ford family. I hope there is some truth in what you say though!
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Old June 16th, 2010, 08:00 AM   #46
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Learning slower? F that! Kill the QB!
Especially the one who wears green & gold.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 09:08 AM   #47
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Don't see Haynesworth going to NYG - WSH wouldn't be stupid enough to trade him to a division rival.

Snyder got dicked. boo hoo.
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Wasn't Haynes making fun of Detroit when he was a FA? Would he even want to come here?
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Old June 16th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #49
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not that he'd have a say in things
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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #50
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Albert Haynesworth, Ndamukong Suh, & Corey Williams each specialize at the "three-technique" DT position.
While Sammie Lee Hill is the "nose tackle" DT position.
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...to_the_li.html

In our base defense, we need a starting "three technique DT" & a starting "nose tackle DT."
Thats why I had my depth chart like that.
& I don't expect Suh to have that much of an impact as a rookie.
Defensive line is the hardest position to transition to (from college to the pros).
AND if Suh played half of the game's defensive plays in a rotation with Haynesworth, wouldn't that be great for both players?
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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:40 AM   #51
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We could use Haynesworth for the first 4 games, until Suh signs.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:46 AM   #52
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Albert Haynesworth, Ndamukong Suh, & Corey Williams each specialize at the "three-technique" DT position.
While Sammie Lee Hill is the "nose tackle" DT position.
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...to_the_li.html

In our base defense, we need a starting "three technique DT" & a starting "nose tackle DT."
Thats why I had my depth chart like that.
& I don't expect Suh to have that much of an impact as a rookie.
Defensive line is the hardest position to transition to (from college to the pros).
AND if Suh played half of the game's defensive plays in a rotation with Haynesworth, wouldn't that be great for both players?

Good point. I just don't see management breaking in our #1 pick slowly. Expectations are immediate impact I believe. Doubt it will happen though
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:16 AM   #53
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Didn't Corey Williams want out of Cleveland because he was playing de?
I don't know that to be true. He completed his second season in that defense...so if he was complaining about 3-4 DE then that seems to be the extent of his dissatisfaction.

My understanding is that it was mutual...he didn't like it and they wanted to find the ideal 3-4 DE. Never came across the "disgruntled" player article myself.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #54
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All three can play the 5...Suh will be a better 5 than a 3 in the NFL IMO...

AH can do whatever he likes along the DL...He's that rare 340 lb DT

SLH is also capable to play both spots...but my gut says he will be strictly a 5 in the future.

The versatility of this group would be insane...And with these 4 DT's Suh surely would get reps at LE
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:21 AM   #55
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I know, the agent has been working the trade for months. But as of today, Albert was also trying to pay back only thousands of the 30-odd-million the Redskins have paid him already.
Ah. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

What's the story on paying back the bonus, anyway? I thought it was actually against the rules to do so, last I heard. Maybe I misunderstood that as well.

That would certainly get him out of this PR jam he's in. If he can't pay it back to Snyder, and cares about salvaging his image, he should give a huge chunk to charity or establish a scholarship fund with it.

As it is, he seems pretty content to let the media declare him a complete assbag. And if he truly is a complete assbag, I think I'd rather have him stay out of the honolulu blue.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 12:25 PM   #56
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Ah. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

What's the story on paying back the bonus, anyway? I thought it was actually against the rules to do so, last I heard. Maybe I misunderstood that as well.

That would certainly get him out of this PR jam he's in. If he can't pay it back to Snyder, and cares about salvaging his image, he should give a huge chunk to charity or establish a scholarship fund with it.

As it is, he seems pretty content to let the media declare him a complete assbag. And if he truly is a complete assbag, I think I'd rather have him stay out of the honolulu blue.
It's against the rules for a team to force a player to pay back a signing bonus.

But a player can certainly pay it back of his own accord... for example, if its a stipulation for him wanting to go to another team.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #57
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Wasn't Haynes making fun of Detroit when he was a FA? Would he even want to come here?
I think he did make fun of Detroit last off-season, then at some point after the season started said something like "Detroit never contacted me, I hope they didn't take me seriously when I said I wouldn't go there"
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Old June 16th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #58
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Could this actually happen?

NFL Rumors: Albert Haynesworth To the Detroit Lions? Don't Be Surprised
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...e-so-surprised
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:48 PM   #59
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Could it happen?

Certainly.

Will it happen?

Most certainly not.

The Redskins want to win now; there's little the Lions could give them that they'd be interested in; at least among what the Lions would be willing to part with.

I can't imagine the Lions giving the most appealing offer, nor do I think the Lions would go out of their way to provide such.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 05:46 AM   #60
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Could it happen?

Certainly.

Will it happen?

Most certainly not.

The Redskins want to win now; there's little the Lions could give them that they'd be interested in; at least among what the Lions would be willing to part with.

I can't imagine the Lions giving the most appealing offer, nor do I think the Lions would go out of their way to provide such.
Agreed but it appears the Lions are willing to wait and see if he will be released.

I suspect there will not be many teams willing to give up something to absorb his bloated contract. Unless the Skins structure a sign and trade, I can not see any NFL franchise giving up a premium player or high draft choice and take an underperforming contract off of their books.

His history of injury makes it even more unlikely someone is going to risk the contract currently in place.
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