Jahvid Best Highlights

lhsy2k · April 30th, 2010, 01:03 AM

So this what Jim Schwartz gets off on, can you blame him?
I'm pleased with this choice at RB, he blew away the competition at the combine. Best has some serious speed and ball-bearing ankles.
http://sportales.com/football/jahvid...ge-highlights/

imation857 · April 30th, 2010, 01:23 AM

there's no way he's faster than cj spiller. the only reason why he went that low in the 1st round was because of his issues with concussions.

lhsy2k · April 30th, 2010, 01:59 AM

Maybe he is faster than Spiller, maybe he isn't. I think overall that Jahvid Best is the better back of the two. Minus the concussions it would be no question, but Best performed very well at the Combine. He deserves a chance, the guy has skill. As long as he doesn't try to hurdle players in the NFL, maybe he will be just fine.

mn2009 · April 30th, 2010, 02:26 AM

He ran a faster 40 time at the combine according to The Schwartz. He's run a 10.3 100 meters. The kid is a sprinter.

expobear · April 30th, 2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mn2009

He ran a faster 40 time at the combine according to The Schwartz. He's run a 10.3 100 meters. The kid is a sprinter.

Note that Best won the Cal state 100M finals in 10.31 as a senior in high school. He did not run the 100M in college.

Nick Pappageorgio · April 30th, 2010, 10:43 AM

IMO spiller is faster once he gets going but lack's explosion.

I think with Best we're going to see a barry sanders type thing where he gets caught from behind at the goal line a lot after breaking a big run.

Spiller won't break nearly as many big runs at the pro level but if he gets behind the defenders it's six. Spiller's biggest problem, IMO, is that he's going to have to learn that he won't be able to have the corner everytime he wants it in the pros.

KidD · April 30th, 2010, 11:04 AM

So, how many golden bear fans do we have here now that are gonna be following the Lions because of the drafting of Best and Follett? 3, 4, 10?

lioninflorida · April 30th, 2010, 11:04 AM

Not sure who you are expecting to catch Best from behind. He is faster than 90% of NFL DB's. He is more likely to get caught at or behind the line of scrimmage in Sanders fashion than to get caught after getting to the 3rd level.

Nick Pappageorgio · April 30th, 2010, 11:17 AM

Disagree.....40 time is not a great measure of top speed and in a 100 yd dash you'd see lots of players that are faster than best. Barry ran a faster 40 than Best and he got caught from behind a ton (after breaking a 40-80 yd run) I don't see Best as having the 5th gear that many of your "NFL DBs" or Spiller possess. He excellerates better though, he's moving at top speed within a couple of steps.

Topweasel · April 30th, 2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pappageorgio

Disagree.....40 time is not a great measure of top speed and in a 100 yd dash you'd see lots of players that are faster than best. Barry ran a faster 40 than Best and he got caught from behind a ton (after breaking a 40-80 yd run) I don't see Best as having the 5th gear that many of your "NFL DBs" or Spiller possess. He excellerates better though, he's moving at top speed within a couple of steps.

I don't know Best won awards for the 100 in California. Most of the time a fast player gets tackled from behind its because of DB that just plainly has a good intercept path and had the advantage of being far enough back that really the player was only "in front" of them just the few moments before the tackle.

SoCal · April 30th, 2010, 11:32 AM

Wow the InstaGood™ is strong with Best.

TK0001 · April 30th, 2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lhsy2k

ball-bearing ankles.

Love this. Great visual.

expobear · April 30th, 2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pappageorgio

IMO spiller is faster once he gets going but lack's explosion.

I think with Best we're going to see a barry sanders type thing where he gets caught from behind at the goal line a lot after breaking a big run.

Spiller won't break nearly as many big runs at the pro level but if he gets behind the defenders it's six. Spiller's biggest problem, IMO, is that he's going to have to learn that he won't be able to have the corner everytime he wants it in the pros.

But the Lions didn't draft Spiller. One thing I do know is if Best gets caught from behind, he'll be 30-40 yards ahead of any Lions' back on the current roster. If somebody has the angle on Best, they might be able to bring him down but if he's a step ahead, I don't think there's really too many people in the NFL who are going to catch him.

Panoptes · April 30th, 2010, 12:03 PM

I saw him get caught many times in just the highlight reels shared on this forum.

Its not a flaw, its just reality that a D player with an angle will catch any ball carrier no matter their 40 time.

Deuce · April 30th, 2010, 12:07 PM

I think NP is right on.

froot loops · April 30th, 2010, 12:07 PM

Plus the RB has to carry the football, that slos you down.

SeattleLionsFan · April 30th, 2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Pappageorgio

Disagree.....40 time is not a great measure of top speed and in a 100 yd dash you'd see lots of players that are faster than best. Barry ran a faster 40 than Best and he got caught from behind a ton (after breaking a 40-80 yd run) I don't see Best as having the 5th gear that many of your "NFL DBs" or Spiller possess. He excellerates better though, he's moving at top speed within a couple of steps.

I think I saw some analysis somewhere which somehow determined that usain bolt would run a 4.6 40 or something.

lioninflorida · April 30th, 2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GONZ

I saw him get caught many times in just the highlight reels shared on this forum.

Its not a flaw, its just reality that a D player with an angle will catch any ball carrier no matter their 40 time.

I don't consider this getting caught from behind. It can't be considered a knock on him if it will happen to any ball carrier. I'm saying Best won't get run down from a trailing DB like our current backs frequently do.

Topweasel · April 30th, 2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal

Wow the InstaGood™ is strong with Best.

Dude still has to show NFL vision and break tackles. I am just not sold he doesn't have outrun speed.

Mainevent · April 30th, 2010, 01:10 PM

Spiller's top end speed does seem a bit better, but I agree with Mr. Pappageorgio, Best is the better pure runner out of the backfield and has better acceleration and vision to hit holes. Neither are going to be big tackle breakers, but both can provide big plays, though I think Spiller's are going to come in more of all all-puropse capacity than out of the backfield.

April 30th, 2010, 01:03 AM	#1
lhsy2k New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 10	Jahvid Best Highlights So this what Jim Schwartz gets off on, can you blame him? I'm pleased with this choice at RB, he blew away the competition at the combine. Best has some serious speed and ball-bearing ankles. http://sportales.com/football/jahvid...ge-highlights/

April 30th, 2010, 11:04 AM	#8
lioninflorida Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 483	Not sure who you are expecting to catch Best from behind. He is faster than 90% of NFL DB's. He is more likely to get caught at or behind the line of scrimmage in Sanders fashion than to get caught after getting to the 3rd level. __________________ Nacho says to Esqueleto:"Aren't you tired of getting dirt kicked in your face? I am. Don't you want a little taste of the glory, see what it taste's like?"

April 30th, 2010, 12:03 PM	#14
Panoptes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land of the non-cooperative Posts: 25,230	I saw him get caught many times in just the highlight reels shared on this forum. Its not a flaw, its just reality that a D player with an angle will catch any ball carrier no matter their 40 time. __________________ Excerpt: Detroit drafted center Dominic Raiola and offensive tackle Jeff Backus in 2001, and the duo is 31-97 (make that 33-111) in the NFL. "I don't have a lot of good memories in the league," Raiola said. "Me and Backus haven't even had a .500 season."--9/10/2009, By LARRY LAGE, AP Sports Writer

April 30th, 2010, 01:23 AM	#2
imation857 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1	there's no way he's faster than cj spiller. the only reason why he went that low in the 1st round was because of his issues with concussions.

April 30th, 2010, 01:59 AM	#3
lhsy2k New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 10	Maybe he is faster than Spiller, maybe he isn't. I think overall that Jahvid Best is the better back of the two. Minus the concussions it would be no question, but Best performed very well at the Combine. He deserves a chance, the guy has skill. As long as he doesn't try to hurdle players in the NFL, maybe he will be just fine.

April 30th, 2010, 02:26 AM	#4
mn2009 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 416	He ran a faster 40 time at the combine according to The Schwartz. He's run a 10.3 100 meters. The kid is a sprinter.

April 30th, 2010, 10:43 AM	#6
Nick Pappageorgio Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,878	IMO spiller is faster once he gets going but lack's explosion. I think with Best we're going to see a barry sanders type thing where he gets caught from behind at the goal line a lot after breaking a big run. Spiller won't break nearly as many big runs at the pro level but if he gets behind the defenders it's six. Spiller's biggest problem, IMO, is that he's going to have to learn that he won't be able to have the corner everytime he wants it in the pros.

April 30th, 2010, 11:04 AM	#7
KidD Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Think of the hottest place on Earth... its hotter. Posts: 177	So, how many golden bear fans do we have here now that are gonna be following the Lions because of the drafting of Best and Follett? 3, 4, 10?

April 30th, 2010, 11:17 AM	#9
Nick Pappageorgio Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,878	Disagree.....40 time is not a great measure of top speed and in a 100 yd dash you'd see lots of players that are faster than best. Barry ran a faster 40 than Best and he got caught from behind a ton (after breaking a 40-80 yd run) I don't see Best as having the 5th gear that many of your "NFL DBs" or Spiller possess. He excellerates better though, he's moving at top speed within a couple of steps.

April 30th, 2010, 11:32 AM	#11
SoCal Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 5,576	Wow the InstaGood™ is strong with Best.

April 30th, 2010, 12:07 PM	#15
Deuce Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,141	I think NP is right on.

April 30th, 2010, 12:07 PM	#16
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 12,924	Plus the RB has to carry the football, that slos you down.

April 30th, 2010, 01:10 PM	#20
Mainevent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,387	Spiller's top end speed does seem a bit better, but I agree with Mr. Pappageorgio, Best is the better pure runner out of the backfield and has better acceleration and vision to hit holes. Neither are going to be big tackle breakers, but both can provide big plays, though I think Spiller's are going to come in more of all all-puropse capacity than out of the backfield.