U of M thread (in the Lions Forum) :) - Page 3

Niffla · August 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM

LOL Rocky

So, what's the scouting report on Utah? Can't wait for Saturday.

froot loops · August 26th, 2008, 10:40 AM

I read that they think Utah is as good as it was a few years back.

Rocky Bleier · August 26th, 2008, 02:56 PM

I'm looking at this as a detox year. I have very few expectations. The o-line is in terrible shape, so it could be a long year. I only want to see improvement over the weeks and a strong recruiting class. Badly need help at QB, DE and OL. It's going to take awhile.

froot loops · August 26th, 2008, 02:56 PM

They should be competing right now. Stop with those ridiculous sandbags.

Niffla · August 26th, 2008, 09:53 PM

Anybody know what channel this will be on nationally? ABC? BTN? ESPN Gameplan PPV?

Rocky Bleier · August 27th, 2008, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by froot loops

They should be competing right now. Stop with those ridiculous sandbags.

One returning starter on offense. Second rate quarterbacks. Lloyd left the cupboard a bit bare. We'll see how good Rodriguez is as a coach with this team.

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 10:05 AM

Lloyd didn't force Mallett to transfer.

The Big Ten is pretty weak this year and they say Michigan is going to have a good defense. The cupboard isn't bare, quit with the Lou Holtz sandbagging.

Rocky Bleier · August 27th, 2008, 12:23 PM

No one forced Mallet to transfer. He bolted when RR was named coach. He won't be missed by his teammates. I don't think you know the roster very well. If Michigan has a decent record this year it will be due to better conditioning and coaching.

DanO · August 27th, 2008, 12:33 PM

I'm with you Rocky.

GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 12:37 PM

They recruit well every year, this Lou Holtz sandbagging is comical. Their schedule ensures that they should at least win 8 games.

DanO · August 27th, 2008, 12:42 PM

This coming from a MSU fan. "UM should be great and never have a down year. If they do have a down year I want to laugh hysterically because I'm a MSU fan. I will not allow any talk they should only be average this year so I can get my jollies."

GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM

DanO - Michigan has never had a real down year recruiting. Even their worst recruiting years are top 20. Their schedule is pretty weak. 8 wins should be easy for them. You guys sound like Lou Holtz pumping up Army.

DanO · August 27th, 2008, 12:50 PM

No they haven't. Question is, in my mind, have they been able to recruit top 20 players who fit the RR type player. I also believe there "MAY" be a learning curve to this new type offense. I think you're downplaying this transitionary peiod. I hope you're right, and you may well be, but I'm not sitting back here expecting it like you're suggesting.

GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Utah W
Miami(OH) W
At ND W
Wisconsin W
Illinois W
Toledo W
at PSU L
MSU W
at Purdue W
at Minnesota W
Northwestern W
at OSU L

by my count that's 10-2. They might lose to MSU or Illinois, but its at home so thats pretty doubtful. So if they underachieve they might go 8-4. It would be one thing if they were playing a tough schedule, Buts its not.

Rocky Bleier · August 27th, 2008, 12:52 PM

What players on the current roster are we supposed to be excited about? No one on offense has proven themselves. The defense is full of guys who couldn't stop App. State, Oregon or Ohio State. It's not like they have a bunch of battle-tested, accolade-showered players returning. If they win 8 games due to their schedule, then how does that make them a good team? Are 8 wins posible? Yes. Probable? No. Either way, this should be the worst team Rodriguez coaches at Michigan.

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 12:54 PM

Question is, in my mind, have they been able to recruit top 20 players who fit the RR type player.

You've been watching the Lions too long. Good coaches adjust to the talent they have.

Rocky Bleier · August 27th, 2008, 12:55 PM

I think they could lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, MSU and maybe even Notre Dame.

froot loops · August 27th, 2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky Bleier

What players on the current roster are we supposed to be excited about? No one on offense has proven themselves. The defense is full of guys who couldn't stop App. State, Oregon or Ohio State. It's not like they have a bunch of battle-tested, accolade-showered players returning. If they win 8 games due to their schedule, then how does that make them a good team? Are 8 wins posible? Yes. Probable? No. Either way, this should be the worst team Rodriguez coaches at Michigan.

You can say that every year about college teams, the turnover is constant. Just because you haven't seen the players before doesn't mean they aren't talented.

Rocky Bleier · August 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM

College teams do well largely based on returning starters. What bothers me most is the O-line. That was always Michigan's strength. I sincerely doubt that Threet and Sheridan are going to go down in history with Brady and Harbaugh.

DanO · August 27th, 2008, 01:01 PM

"I think they could lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, MSU and maybe even Notre Dame."
-----------------------I would add Utah to the list.

"You've been watching the Lions too long. Good coaches adjust to the talent they have."
-----------------------True but I'm not sure how flexible RR is nor do I know that he wants to adjust. He may be willing to forgo adjustment, and this years record, in hopes of a higher dividend in years to come.

GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!

August 25th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#41
Niffla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,888	LOL Rocky So, what's the scouting report on Utah? Can't wait for Saturday. __________________ AAL: Bryant Johnson

August 26th, 2008, 02:56 PM	#43
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	I'm looking at this as a detox year. I have very few expectations. The o-line is in terrible shape, so it could be a long year. I only want to see improvement over the weeks and a strong recruiting class. Badly need help at QB, DE and OL. It's going to take awhile. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

August 26th, 2008, 09:53 PM	#45
Niffla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,888	Anybody know what channel this will be on nationally? ABC? BTN? ESPN Gameplan PPV? __________________ AAL: Bryant Johnson

August 27th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#48
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	No one forced Mallet to transfer. He bolted when RR was named coach. He won't be missed by his teammates. I don't think you know the roster very well. If Michigan has a decent record this year it will be due to better conditioning and coaching. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

August 27th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#49
DanO Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor MI. Posts: 21,526	I'm with you Rocky. *GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!* __________________ *GO LIONS "12" !!* Take us to the promised land Matthew. Sincerely PollyAnna Dan.

August 26th, 2008, 10:40 AM	#42
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	I read that they think Utah is as good as it was a few years back.

August 27th, 2008, 10:05 AM	#47
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	Lloyd didn't force Mallett to transfer. The Big Ten is pretty weak this year and they say Michigan is going to have a good defense. The cupboard isn't bare, quit with the Lou Holtz sandbagging.

August 27th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#50
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	They recruit well every year, this Lou Holtz sandbagging is comical. Their schedule ensures that they should at least win 8 games.

August 27th, 2008, 12:42 PM	#51
DanO Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor MI. Posts: 21,526	This coming from a MSU fan. "UM should be great and never have a down year. If they do have a down year I want to laugh hysterically because I'm a MSU fan. I will not allow any talk they should only be average this year so I can get my jollies." *GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!* __________________ *GO LIONS "12" !!* Take us to the promised land Matthew. Sincerely PollyAnna Dan.

August 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM	#52
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	DanO - Michigan has never had a real down year recruiting. Even their worst recruiting years are top 20. Their schedule is pretty weak. 8 wins should be easy for them. You guys sound like Lou Holtz pumping up Army.

August 27th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#53
DanO Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor MI. Posts: 21,526	No they haven't. Question is, in my mind, have they been able to recruit top 20 players who fit the RR type player. I also believe there "MAY" be a learning curve to this new type offense. I think you're downplaying this transitionary peiod. I hope you're right, and you may well be, but I'm not sitting back here expecting it like you're suggesting. *GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!* __________________ *GO LIONS "12" !!* Take us to the promised land Matthew. Sincerely PollyAnna Dan.

August 27th, 2008, 12:51 PM	#54
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	Utah W Miami(OH) W At ND W Wisconsin W Illinois W Toledo W at PSU L MSU W at Purdue W at Minnesota W Northwestern W at OSU L by my count that's 10-2. They might lose to MSU or Illinois, but its at home so thats pretty doubtful. So if they underachieve they might go 8-4. It would be one thing if they were playing a tough schedule, Buts its not.

August 27th, 2008, 12:52 PM	#55
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	What players on the current roster are we supposed to be excited about? No one on offense has proven themselves. The defense is full of guys who couldn't stop App. State, Oregon or Ohio State. It's not like they have a bunch of battle-tested, accolade-showered players returning. If they win 8 games due to their schedule, then how does that make them a good team? Are 8 wins posible? Yes. Probable? No. Either way, this should be the worst team Rodriguez coaches at Michigan. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

August 27th, 2008, 12:54 PM	#56
froot loops Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: I'm great Posts: 18,658	Question is, in my mind, have they been able to recruit top 20 players who fit the RR type player. You've been watching the Lions too long. Good coaches adjust to the talent they have.

August 27th, 2008, 12:55 PM	#57
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	I think they could lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, MSU and maybe even Notre Dame. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

August 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM	#59
Rocky Bleier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northwest, WI Posts: 7,253	College teams do well largely based on returning starters. What bothers me most is the O-line. That was always Michigan's strength. I sincerely doubt that Threet and Sheridan are going to go down in history with Brady and Harbaugh. __________________ “There are more people who vote for a living than people who work for a living ." Marc Faber

August 27th, 2008, 01:01 PM	#60
DanO Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor MI. Posts: 21,526	"I think they could lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, MSU and maybe even Notre Dame." -----------------------I would add Utah to the list. "You've been watching the Lions too long. Good coaches adjust to the talent they have." -----------------------True but I'm not sure how flexible RR is nor do I know that he wants to adjust. He may be willing to forgo adjustment, and this years record, in hopes of a higher dividend in years to come. *GO LIONS "08" !!!!!!!!* __________________ *GO LIONS "12" !!* Take us to the promised land Matthew. Sincerely PollyAnna Dan.