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Old May 13th, 2018, 06:51 AM   #3601
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I hate Boston but you’re right. They’re swimming in flexibility with all they’re young talent and picks.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 07:02 AM   #3602
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Funny enough, Boston did their own kind of "tanking," at least in the sense that they willingly sacrificed wins at the time trading good players for draft assets rather than foolishly try to challenge Lebron James at the height of his powers.

A LOT of Celtics fans were pissed about that at the time, complaining that Ainge was scared of making a move by sitting on a ton of assets rather than trade them for players while signing big money FAs.
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Old May 13th, 2018, 03:07 PM   #3603
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Yeah I remember that. A lot were calling for his head.
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Old May 14th, 2018, 07:23 PM   #3604
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Would you hire Dwayne Casey? He couldn’t win with Toronto but it looked like he had no one that could reasonably defend LeBron. Maybe he can get more out of Drummond and this group.
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Old May 14th, 2018, 11:04 PM   #3605
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I wish they would interview Jay Wright.

But I'd be ok with Casey.
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Old May 15th, 2018, 10:44 AM   #3606
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The thing I’m surprised with is how Jay Wright’s salary is only $2.6 million. Though Nova is a really small school... that’s a part of it.
With the success Wright has had and being a top 5 college coach... thought the salary would be $5 million+. Wright loves Philadelphia... but if the Pistons were to match SVG salary ($7 million), that’d be quite the raise.

Pistons have a 2.5% shot of getting a top 3 pick during the NBA lotto tonight. Telling me there’s a chance.
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Old May 15th, 2018, 11:14 AM   #3607
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I wonder what that up and comer Lawrence Frank is doing
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Old May 15th, 2018, 05:14 PM   #3608
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Frank is in a bridge club with Keuster and Curry. They are a force.
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Old May 15th, 2018, 07:58 PM   #3609
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And with the 42nd pick of the 2018 nba draft the Pistons select......
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Old May 15th, 2018, 09:32 PM   #3610
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Jay Wright is a college coach, I doubt his coaching translates to the pro game. Most college coaches can't translate. To make a difference as an NBA coach you have to command the players attention and really be a great at x's and o's. Wright's calling card is player improvement so he has that going for him.

The Pistons need to find their Brad Stevens, but I'm not sure there is one.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 01:46 AM   #3611
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SVG was a “Build a f*cking wall” guy..
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Old May 16th, 2018, 05:43 AM   #3612
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Stevens was a college coach. I don't know if Wright is right for the job. But I'd offer him an interview to inquire.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 06:40 AM   #3613
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College coaches to the NBA ... mixed results overall I believe... the last three have been decent or better.
Brad Stevens - legendary
Billy Donovan - ok
Fred Hoiberg - ok

Each have been better than SVG.
The Pistons will likely go with the recycle path and hire a Mike Brown/ Frank Vogel type ... fire them after 2-3 disappointing seasons... and start over in purgatory again.
They could hire Dwayne Casey so he can prove how that coach of the year vote is not accurate.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 06:47 AM   #3614
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SVG was a “Build a f*cking wall” guy..
(peeks head in room)

I like this guy already.

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Old May 16th, 2018, 07:09 AM   #3615
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Stevens was young plus he wasn't a program coach. The problem with a guy like Wright is his success is based on building a program. He is not some whiz with the whiteboard. almost every college coach is lost when they go to the pros, they don't have the chops drawing up plays. Jay Wright would be as successful as John Calipari in the NBA

The problem with Van Gundy were numerous, but coaching wise he didn't evolve. Sure he got to the NBA with one center and 4 shooters. But nowadays that is the standard.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 09:36 AM   #3616
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Stevens was young plus he wasn't a program coach. The problem with a guy like Wright is his success is based on building a program. He is not some whiz with the whiteboard. almost every college coach is lost when they go to the pros, they don't have the chops drawing up plays. Jay Wright would be as successful as John Calipari in the NBA

The problem with Van Gundy were numerous, but coaching wise he didn't evolve. Sure he got to the NBA with one center and 4 shooters. But nowadays that is the standard.
His jump to the pros was based entirely on him developing Butler into a temporary threat in the NCAA tournament. The ONLY reason he's the Celtics coach is because he succeeded in "building a program."

There's certainly reason to be wary of Wright, but the arguments you're using could just as easily been leveled at Stevens.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 09:58 AM   #3617
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Stevens was/is one of the best and drawing up plays in the game ... Izzo is a college guy who is know for his x's and o's savvy, but he's staying at State and is getting a little old for the NBA. I agree with Froot .... Wright isn't beating people because of execution, he's beating people with better players.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 11:45 AM   #3618
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When I say program coach, I mean when you roll out a bunch of All-American recruits and beat them with talent. Most of the big name coaches always have a talent advantage. Generally the rule of thumb is you have at least couple 1st round picks on the team. Butler under Stevens was not that. Which makes this post laughable

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His jump to the pros was based entirely on him developing Butler into a temporary threat in the NCAA tournament. The ONLY reason he's the Celtics coach is because he succeeded in "building a program."

There's certainly reason to be wary of Wright, but the arguments you're using could just as easily been leveled at Stevens.
That dude coached his ass off to get Butler to two straight championship games. Look at the roster and tell me the All America talent he had. He had Gordon Heyward the first year, the only other NBA talent he had was Shelvin Mac and he's a vagabond journeyman.

At the time it was thought that he was a coaching prodigy, that's why he got hired. He's proven it at the NBA, look at the team he is succeeding with.

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Old May 16th, 2018, 11:47 AM   #3619
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As much as I admired Izzo and the program he has built, he would be an awful fit in the NBA.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 06:40 PM   #3620
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When I say program coach, I mean when you roll out a bunch of All-American recruits and beat them with talent. Most of the big name coaches always have a talent advantage.
Ah. I getcha now. Sorry I misinterpreted what you meant.
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