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Old March 25th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #1
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Class of '18 Recruiting Board

Offense

QB: Joe Milton & Kevin Doyle
RB: Christian Turner, & Hassan Haskins
WR:
Chris Olave & Shocky Jaques-Louis
TE: Luke Schoonmaker & Mustapha Muhammad
OT: Jalen Mayfield, Ryan Hayes,
& Jalen Goss
OG:

Defense

DT:
Tyler Friday & Michael Thompson
DE: Aidan Hutchinson, &
LB: Cameron McGrone & Otis Reese
CB: Myles Sims, Gemon Green &
Josh Jobe
S: German Green, Sammy Faustin, & Bryan Addison

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Class of '19 Recruiting Board
QB: Michael Johnson Jr.
RB: Quavaris Crouch, Eric Gray & Daniel Carter
WR: Kyle Ford, Isaiah Williams, & Marcus Washington
TE:
OT: Logan Brown & Trevor Keegan
OG: Nolan Rumler

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DE: Chris Hinton & Stephen Herron Jr.
DT:
Mazi Smith
LB: Charles Thomas, Gemon Eaford, Anthony Solomon, & Marvin Grant
CB:
S: Lewis Cine, & Luke McCaffrey

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Old March 25th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #2
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Class of '17

Offense

QB: Dylan McCaffrey
RB: O'Maury Samuels & Kurt Taylor
WR: Donovan Peoples-Jones, Tarik Black, Oliver Martin &Nico Collins
OT: JaRaymond Hall, Joel Honigford & Andrew Stueber
OG: Cesar Ruiz & Chuck Filliaga

Defense
DT: James Hudson, Donovan Jeter, Phillip Paea & Aubrey Solomon
DE: Luiji Vilain, Deron Irving-Bey, Corey Malone-Hatcher & Kwity Paye
LB: Jordan Anthony, Drew Singleton, Joshua Ross & Ben Mason
CB: Ambry Thomas & Benjamin St-Juste
S: Jaylen Kelly-Powell, J'Marick Woods & Brad Hawkins


Class of '16

Offense
QB: Brandon Peters
RB: Kareem Walker, Chris Evans
WR: Keoka Crawford, Nate Johnson & Eddie McDoom
TE: Devin Asiasi, Nick Eubanks & Sean McKeon
OT: Stephen Spanellis
OG: Ben Bredeson & Michael Onwenu

Defense
DT: Rashan Gary & Michael Dwumfour
DE: Ron Johnson & Carlo Kemp
LB: Elysee Mbem-Bosse, Devin Bush Jr., Devin Gil & Joshua Uche
CB: David Long & Lavert Hill
S: Josh Metellus & Khaleke Hudson
K/P: Quinn Nordin


Class of '15
Offense
QB: Alex Malzone
RB: Karan Higdon
WR: Grant Perry
TE: Tyrone Wheatley Jr. & Zach Gentry
OT: Grant Newsome & Nolan Ulizio
OG: Jon Runyan Jr.

Defense
DT:
DE: Shelton Johnson
LB: Reuben Jones
CB: Keith Washington
S: Tyree Kinnel
K/P:

Class of '14

Offense

QB: Wilton Speight
WR: Drake Harris & Maurice Ways
TE: Ian Blunting
OT: Mason Cole
OG: Juwan Bushell-Beatty

Defense
DT: Bryan Mone
DE: Lawrence Marshall & Chase Winovich
LB: Noah Furbush & Jared Wangler
CB: Brandon Watson
S:
K/P:

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Old March 25th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #3
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Seniors - 10
QB:
John O'Korn
RB: Ty Isaac
TE/FB: Henry Poggi & Khalid Hill
OT: Mason Cole
OG: Patrick Kugler
DT: Maurice Hurst
LB: Mike McCray

Juniors - 17
QB:
Wilton Speight
RB: Karan Higdon
WR: Grant Perry & Mo Ways
TE: Ian Bunting
OT: Grant Newsome
OG: Juwan Bushell-Beatty

DE: Lawrence Marshall
DT: Bryan Mone
LB: Chase Winovich, Noah Furbush & Jared Wangler
CB: Brandon Watson
S: Tyree Kinnel & Drake Harris

Sophomores - 8
QB:
Alex Malzone
RB:
WR:
TE: Tyrone Wheatley Jr. & Zach Gentry
OT: Nolan Ulizio
OG: Jon Runyan Jr.

DE: Shelton Johnson
DT:
LB: Reuben Jones
CB: Keith Washington
S:
K/P:

True Freshman
QB:
RB:
WR:
TE:
OT:
OG:

DT:
DE:
LB:
CB:
S:

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Rivals: http://michigan.rivals.com/
Scout: http://michigan.scout.com/
ESPN: http://espn.go.com/colleges/michigan...ng/commitments
24/7: http://michigan.247sports.com/
Maize n Brew: http://www.maizenbrew.com/
Touch the Banner: http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/
M Roster (mgoblue): http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-foot...ootbl-mtt.html

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Old March 25th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #4
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I could see Terrence Robinson not being asked back for a fifth year. Ditto for Cox if he doesn't break the three-deep this fall. I'm also kind of expecting to see one or two more transfers by guys who haven't contributed much and don't fit into the new offense very well.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #5
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M loses 3 of its top 4 receivers in Daryl Stonum, Junior Hemingway & Tay Odoms after this season, someone will need to step-in at receiver. Slot receiver position isn't as overloaded as some make it out to be.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 04:50 PM   #6
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I "stuck" the thread for you.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:01 PM   #7
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Great thread, WM. Keep up the good work.
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Old March 26th, 2011, 11:33 PM   #8
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http://www.detnews.com/article/20110...ensive-lineman

In 2 days we get two verbal commits from O-linemen. Brady Hoke's philosophy on building the foundation of his team with the guys in the trenches is apparent

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Old March 27th, 2011, 01:06 AM   #9
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Lets hope he gets QUALITY as well as quantity. We've had too many MAC caliber players lately.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 03:47 AM   #10
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Lets hope he gets QUALITY as well as quantity. We've had too many MAC caliber players lately.
amen to that..


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Old March 27th, 2011, 09:07 AM   #11
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Long thread this morning on the quality v. quantity argument at Rivals.

It was noted that the first two OL commits are not highly regarded if their offer lists are an indicator. Probably solid 3*s. Why fill up the slots for OL early with these kinds of players ...... smacks of RR's approach of casting a wide net and taking all comers (e.g., taking the commitment of 5 WRs when the roster only demanded 3).

Counter points included:

Hard to project OL prospects; Jake Long was a 3*/4*

Typical OL class is not going to have 5 or 6 top 100 OL commits; its more likely to have 2-3 projects, 2-3 mid-level prospects and 1-2 big name players.

Early commits put some pressure on higher ranked guys holding out to see what happens. If they want to play for Hoke and Michigan, makes it harder for them to hold out as the spots will be gone. Reflects Hoke's philosophy of I want players who want to play for Michigan.

Our recruiting boards and those of Rivals and Scouts probably look a lot different than Brady Hokes. i.e., trust the coaches who know their targets and have the complete picture on them.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 09:53 AM   #12
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Well, both of the guys who have committed come from good HS programs. These aren't some outback schools that play 8 man football every other Friday. They turn out Division 1 players all the time. And, as I read up on both guys, they are the types that have a "mean streak", which is very important in the trenches.

Jeff's point is well taken, though. This will put some pressure on the higher rated guys to make the commitment if they really want to play for Michigan. If Michigan is just a team that they are tossing on their list, then maybe we didn't want them anyway.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #13
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Long thread this morning on the quality v. quantity argument at Rivals.

It was noted that the first two OL commits are not highly regarded if their offer lists are an indicator. Probably solid 3*s. Why fill up the slots for OL early with these kinds of players ...... smacks of RR's approach of casting a wide net and taking all comers (e.g., taking the commitment of 5 WRs when the roster only demanded 3).

Counter points included:

Hard to project OL prospects; Jake Long was a 3*/4*

Typical OL class is not going to have 5 or 6 top 100 OL commits; its more likely to have 2-3 projects, 2-3 mid-level prospects and 1-2 big name players.

Early commits put some pressure on higher ranked guys holding out to see what happens. If they want to play for Hoke and Michigan, makes it harder for them to hold out as the spots will be gone. Reflects Hoke's philosophy of I want players who want to play for Michigan.

Our recruiting boards and those of Rivals and Scouts probably look a lot different than Brady Hokes. i.e., trust the coaches who know their targets and have the complete picture on them.
Those were the same excuses made for Rodriguez when he was hauling in targets like Greg Brown and DJ Williamson. Don't the coaches of other major programs know how to evaluate talent too? And Jake Long is a pretty bad example to use. He was a 4* on rivals with offers from Penn State, Michigan State, and Notre Dame.

Braden, at least, was offered by MSU and Wisconsin, which gives him a lot of credibility. But we are the only decent program that offered Caleb Stacey. He's the textbook definition of Plan B type of guy.

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Your lucky if you land 1 or 2 blue chip OL in a recruiting class. For me and even the recruiting services, OL is the most difficult position to analyze/project; look at the amount of 2 & 3 stars as high schools that get drafted relative to 4 & 5 stars...

M's supposedly excellent '05 offensive line recruiting class: 4 4-stars, a highly thought of 3-star and another 3-star. How did that turn out? Marques Slocum, Tim McAvoy, Mark Ortmann, David Moosman, Cory Zirbel and Justin Schifano. The previous class ('04) M signed a couple 4-stars: Brett Gallimore & Alex Mitchell. Success rate of those 4-stars? 1 in 6.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #15
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Not to pick on your point WM ......

Michigan had the most underwhelming player development on the OL under coach Andy Moeller that I witnessed in watching that unit. Frey outclassed him big time when he replaced him in 2008 on RR's staff.

The combination of Mike Debord and Andy Moeller on offense produced some of the worst Michigan rushing teams in the history of the school. I'd say that the 2005 class had plenty of talent. It was just very poorly developed.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #16
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Lots of reasons those classes developed poorly; Slocum never qualified, Both Zirbel (was set to start) & Schifano (wasn't progressing pre-injury) lost careers to injury, Alex Mitchell didn't have the work ethic... Which is why I prefer numbers at the OL position...

FWIW, its still 'early' for OL recruiting as: 1. These guys were just ~220 lb's a couple years ago and are just filling out 2. You don't get a good feel for anyone other than the blue chippers till they compete in the camps against quality DL.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 09:20 PM   #17
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I admire Hoke for the pedestal on which he places Michigan football, but I hope he's not kidding himself with a "if they want it bad enough, they'll commit early" type of approach.

It's not like he's new to recruiting, but Michigan doesn't have (IMO) the pull that they had when he was here as an assistant. Things have changed, in large part to what's happened the last 3 years, but it was starting before that.

I hope he realizes that simply being Michigan isn't enough, even if he feels that way himself.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #18
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Report that East Pointe WR/TE Ron Thompson has committed to Michigan. 6-4/210 pounds and is very much in the molder of Braylon Edwards.

http://bighousenation.com/2011/03/27...nt-commitment/
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Report that East Pointe WR/TE Ron Thompson has committed to Michigan. 6-4/210 pounds and is very much in the molder of Braylon Edwards.

http://bighousenation.com/2011/03/27...nt-commitment/
Other offers...

Syracuse, Toledo, Bowling Green, and Indiana
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I wouldn't read too much into that other offers thing, Hanni. Its been known for a long time that Thompson was a huge Michigan lean. A lot of teams don't bother to offer unless there is mutual interest.
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